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My theory of history and 2012 (long read)
    #14332445 - 04/22/11 09:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I typed this up a few weeks ago.  It's still under revision, but this is how I see history, I'm majoring in history at my college and so far this is the most coherent framework I have to understand it through.  I'm sure I'll revise this after the current semester with all my new knowledges.  So, tell me what you think, including problems you have with it, or any facts that could flesh it out. :peace:

  So, is there any logic behind the 2012 phenomenon? Well, first of all let me say by its very nature the evidence will be tied in with your personal life and as such predictions are very hard to decisively say, and much of the evidence would not pass academic muster.  But, all the same, that doesn’t mean something isn’t happening, and I think the web of associations is just too vast to ignore.
    So obviously 2012 was originated through knowledge of the Mayan’s cyclical calendar, and how it ends on December 21st of that year. The Hindus are another group with a cyclic view of nature and culture.  They have a very defined system where the threefold nature of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva create, maintain, and destroy the universe in a continuous cycle.  Further, they define the rising and falling of human civilizations according to ages or “yugas,” some of which are higher and some of which are lower.  For instance, it is the opinion of many Hindus that we are currently in the Kali Yuga, or dark age of man.  They believe this explains why our society is highly materialistic and spiritually underdeveloped, with many people unaware of or disbelieving in the more subtle aspects of reality.  The Hindu theory of history is highly important to the theory I am presenting here, as shall be seen.
  One relatively modern Hindu sage put this theory into very direct terms and dates.  Sri Yukteswar, made famous by the book Autobiography of a Yogi, has a theory of history in which we are not actually in the Kali Yuga but the Dwapara Yuga.  He says the cycle of our world is 12,000 years up and 12,000 years down, and our current one began around the time of the fall of Rome.  I believe that this theory stands up well when compared with historical facts both mundane and spiritual.
  Before matching Sri Yukteswar’s dates with historical events, a little explanation of what exactly is rising and falling will be necessary.  I believe that the variable determining the “highness” or “lowness” of a culture, time period, or even an individual, is the total amount of creative energy they posses.  The concept of creative energy is very vague if you have not adopted it as a fixture in your own day to day life.  But it appears in every culture and tradition.  Chi, Prana, Mojo, Soul, Light, Spirit, Four-Loko (jk)…these terms all refer to a fundamental energy.  I believe all energy is change and movement, the fundamental constants of our manifest universe.  We are energy, not at our truest nature, which is absolute and changeless, but in the sense that we are constantly changing bodyminds who effect change upon the exterior universe.  And in another sense we are energy in the absolute sense, as I believe energy is the dynamic reflection of the absolute.
    So, if a person has lots of creative energy, they can cause great change upon their surroundings, and within themselves.  A person like this will be constantly changing and evolving.  You certainly know people like this; they are the people who succeed at goals, are always trying something new, always improving, and basically the most energetic and dynamic characters around.  Often they are artists, and put their creative energy to use in manifesting entirely new realities.  Sometimes, however, very high energy people are not artists, and bring change to their worlds through less artistic means.  However, when viewed from a broader perspective, everybody’s life is a work of art, and any beautiful life story is certainly caused by a very high, very chi-filled being.
  This concept applies to societies too.  Sri Yukteswar, and the Yugas theory, posit that humanity goes through cosmic cycles where there is more or less of this energy available on the planet at any one time.  When there is a lot of this energy, society goes through great changes, art and culture flourish, spiritual advancement is made easier, and the consciousness of the people on the planet evolves at a faster rate.  When there is not as much, stagnation occurs, and the state of affairs for society is decidedly less pleasant.  On a larger scale, more creative energy makes a material existence less necessary. Ultimately, our shared reality could be anything we collectively decide it to be, and in very high ages a material living simply may not be necessary, although I do not think that will be the case during this current cycle.
  So where is the evidence of this rising and falling energy in history? Well, for one thing I do in fact think the larger age we are living in is a highly materialistic Kali Yuga, although within this there are still risings and fallings, and just because it’s materialistic doesn’t mean it’s “bad.” But before 400 A.D., Earth was in a higher age, where more things were possible to everybody.  The kali yuga of that age started with the death of Krishna in 3228 B.C.  This also corresponds to the rise of Babylonian and Egyptian civilizations.  I believe these civilizations, which to us are the oldest on the planet, were actually descendents of an Atlantean civilization as written about by Plato. The Greeks as well carried the remnants of Atlantean culture.  This is all unproven and highly speculative, but it makes sense, especially considering it was written about in detail by Plato and corroborated by many modern Occultists and travelers of the astral plane, like Edgar Cayce.  Simply consider that what we know of ancient civilizations is not the whole story, and is simply all that remains of something else. It comes from abandoning the western notion that our society is always at its apex, and instead thinking maybe humanity has a more timeless nature.
  The most convincing evidence is the fact that around the turn of the millennium, probably beginning with the life of Buddha in 800 B.C., many sages, prophets, and philosophers of great renown appeared on Earth, in many different cultures.  I think there are two possible explanations for this.  The first is that this is simply all we can see of a higher age when sages and mystics accomplished miracles of a much more profound nature, and material evidence of older sages does not exist.  Indeed, Gautama Buddha is purported to be the last of 6 Buddhas, spread out across thousands of years.  The second explanation, more metaphysical in nature, is that as a natural cosmic function, many sages started incarnating on earth near the turn towards Kali Yuga, as a way to offer liberation and salvation to the souls that wanted out before shit got lame.  One interesting character of this time is Simon the Magus, who lived in the 1st century A.D., and was said to posses magical powers which he used in evil ways.  He told people he was Jesus, performed dark miracles, but was also the source of much heresy and pain. He’s the source of the game “simon says,” which is sort of fucked up when you think about it. In general, he was a very antichrist type figure, and may have actually been the antichrist spoken about by Revelations.  I see Simon as appearing towards the very darkest time of a higher age, and being a “sage” of evil, signaling that the time for Earth to lose much of its creative energy had arrived.
  Next comes the larger age we are currently in, beginning with the fall of the Roman Empire and the total dissolution of the power structure that had been handed down from the Atlantean nation (I guess). The age Europe entered into is known as the dark ages, which is a perfect title for the Kali Yuga Earth was in at the time (to clarify, this was a smaller Kali Yuga of great shittyness within a larger Kali Yuga, which is simply characterized by a society of a highly material reality). 
  There was a beacon of light in the world, and I think it was the Muslim religion and culture. Mohammad was born in 570, at the dawn of the new age, and led a spiritual movement that exists to this day.  His teaching that there was but one God unified the minds of people who prayed to dozens of gods for dozens of reasons.  He essentially brought them into the moment by uniting their fractured psyches and dismantling the barriers in their minds.  As this was a lower age, the Muslim Nation was formed by violence and war, but this is not a negative commentary on Muslims.  Actually, it should be appreciated as an awesome historical time that can never happen again; by coming into God and the Moment, an entire culture was formed that tore across the world with an energy unforeseen.  This continued for centuries.  Brilliant Muslim leaders such as Saladin and Suleyman the Magnificent were kings who appeared to hold the mandate of heaven. Clearly, the torch of creative energy was with Islam during the dark ages, and was held in part until the 1500s, with the Ottoman Empire serving as an enlightened society where art and culture flourished.
            But Europe was not to flounder forever.  The Renaissance was the first true “energy bomb” to hit European and western culture, with art and culture exploding in quality.  It directly followed the Black Plague, which is a clear hallmark of a cosmic Kali Yuga.  This same time period also shows the first appearance of Capitalism, which as I will explain later is actually the defining aspect of this global age in many respects.  The years passed and England started to become the most powerful nation in the world.  The beacon of spiritual might had passed to the Brits, and their advances in government and society seem to demonstrate this. 
  The end of the Kali Yuga occurred roughly in 1750, right around the time known appropriately as the “Age of Enlightenment,” where human reason became known as the highest source of knowledge and became the foundation for numerous institutions.  The American Revolution occurred during this time.  I believe the founding fathers to have been very spiritually advanced. Thomas Jefferson was reportedly known as the “Seer of Monticello,” and there are many accounts of George Washington having mystic visions about the future of the United States.  They were clearly not fundamentalist Christians.  To me, the Deist philosophy of a non involved God shows an understanding that the cosmic creative energy was not as involved on earth. They saw things in that western, linear view, but came to the same conclusion that Earth did not have a spiritual force controlling it in large degree (ultimately it did, but it certainly would not have appeared that way at the time).  The founding of America was a triumph of reason and justice.  And it only takes a look to the backside of a dollar bill to see our nation’s occult and spiritual foundations.  The all seeing eye is a decidedly non Christian symbol, and shows the esoteric, fraternal society nature that is behind America, as well as the amount of surveillance possible for the government.
  America’s spiritual stature is very apparent in the Transcendental movement, where luminaries like Emerson, Thoreau, and Walt Whitman were either fully awakened (in the case of Whitman) or mostly awakened beings participating in our nation’s evolution. They appeared in our nation’s youth and seem to set the stage for the great evolution of the human soul that was still to come.
  Sri Yukteswar states that this Dwapara Yuga age we are in will be characterized by the creation of technology that “destroys” space as a barrier.  The industrial revolution which promptly occurred seems to corroborate his theory.  The industrial revolution occurred in America and other nations on the planet, and went hand in hand with capitalism in establishing the reality of the age.
  By the 20th century, America had truly acquired the energetic torch, especially politically and militarily.  By winning World War I for the Allies, and World War II as well, America had become a world superpower. Our control and use of the Atomic Bomb is just another example of the huge power we had come upon.  We appeared to be in control of the western world, as apposed to the Soviet Union whose non-capitalist system was not in compliance with the egoistic reality of the planet, and ended up being authoritarian and brutal instead of egalitarian.  Throughout the 50’s, a new creative energy was building up in America.  But it was underground, and many people then as now lived repressed lives, based around the American dream of a house and a family.  The energy manifested as the Beat movement, and the original hipsters like Ginsberg and Kerouac were very in touch with “the beat” as they called it.  This was in effect another completely original American spiritual movement. Books like “On the Road” are in a sense part of a tradition of American Mysticism.
  And then, everything exploded.  The 1960’s were a true energy bomb in America and across the world.  It started in the early 60’s with civil rights movement and protests, but escalated quickly, peaking in 1967.  LSD was popularized during this time, a material source for a spiritual/subtle experience that many people needed.  It broke down barriers and brought widespread change to society, and revolutionized art and culture, with rock music becoming a total cultural movement.  Interestingly, the hugest bands, like the Beatles, The Rolling Stones, and Led Zeppelin, seemed to come from England. I think this is probably a natural cycle where a world leading nation of old has had the time to develop a great artistic foundation, and sort of receives the best art as a cosmic “consolation prize.” Even more interestingly, all that British music was based on American rhythm and blues music.  It’s like, we had this great musical soul emerging in America, but were not yet adept enough to fully harness it, and the English were more than capable of stepping up to the plate. And of course, many great American artists emerged as well. It’s important to realize because music is very close to the source spiritually, and it tells you a lot about the culture it comes from, especially when as in our modern age it can be recorded and saved for future inspection.
  The 1970’s, especially the early decade, where a comedown from the peak of 1967, and represented a great age for American youth culture.  I believe another smaller energy bomb occurred in the early 1990’s with generation X. Computers, music, and lifestyle underwent many changes.  However, this can very much be characterized by Kurt Cobain’s suicide. Ultimately, it wasn’t enough, and shit was still fucked up.  Though change and energy were spread, it was not enough for America to escape the stagnation it had once again fallen into after the 1960’s. It was really more of an aftershock of the 1960’s and as such was more disparate and harder to pin down.  As an aside of personal interest, Radiohead represents to me a cultural beacon of a group that found its way to the moment and to the fountain of creative energy, and was truly ahead of its time, during a time when it was probably difficult to truly be in the moment. Or at least, less people were.
  The 2000’s, to me, represent a complete low point in creative energy and culture in America.  9/11 got the decade off to a fearful and anxious start.  Our neo-con leader used this fear to twist the American population into a war mindset.  I think it is highly likely that the Government purposely let 9/11 happen in order to spark a war.  Throughout American history big business has always found war in its interest, even back to World War I when J.P. Morgan was a chief financier of the allies.  Fear stalked the land in the 2000’s and to some degree it still does.  But throughout the 2000’s, something was building.  That something was the internet.  Now, nobody was unaware of the internet.  It’s been big news.  But people are unaware of just how much it has the potential to change our lives and consciousness.  The new generation that grew up during the 2000’s has had the internet all along; an energy bomb is brewing across the world, and it has already born fruit in many minds and in many events. Never before has anybody of middle class status or above had access to all the information in all of human history.  With the internet, it seems as if anything is possible.  Spiritual revelation is just a few mouseclicks away, if you surf with an open heart.
  This brings me to my ultimate point: 2012.  What is seen by many as another y2k type theory of apocalypse or some new age babble, is actually a product of the internet. I think it is the next energy bomb, along the lines of the 1960’s or the enlightenment.  Due to the internet and the increased communication it provides, people are talking about the future and forming some vague consensus that something big is going to happen.  Obviously the predictions take many forms, but 2012 is the meme that has surfaced most apparently from the soup of online minds.  I think the internet, and its huge influx of information, is causing the rapid spiritual/energetic advancement of many beings in this day and age.  The smart are getting much, much smarter. This might sound like the typical arrogance of youth and a new generation, but people of all ages are taking part in this, and its effects have not yet been seen.  However, the protest revolutions in Egypt and Libya are to me the tip of the iceberg for social change that we will see.
  So what will the 2012 bomb look like? For one thing, I don’t think 2012 is going to be a peak, but simply when we start to come up really fast, so to speak.  We’ll start to see activism of a new and dangerous nature.  Anonymous of 4chan is an example of this, and they may play a huge role for all I know.  The internet is radically changing music and all media, and I think these changes will coalesce into a totally new paradigm of art and sharing in the 21st century.  Every individual has the potential to be a globalized artist, and we can all freely engage in the fundamental, sacred human right of creation with the aid of a computer.  The wikileaks situation is something else I see as a precursor, with the American government being made aware that information is finally going to take its rightful place as a freely shared commodity.  This will force changes upon many institutions.
  I think along with this consciousness shift caused by the internet, the legacy of the 60’s will live on in psychedelic drugs, but this time they will be of incidental interest.  Still, through the internet anybody can find the information to make Psilocybin Mushrooms, DMT, Mescaline, and obtain any drug through communication.  The people have yet another medium of sharing their illegal substances and causing change in society.
As far as duration, I feel it is likely that this will represent America’s maturation, as apposed to the 60’s which were our turbulent adolescence.  It will happen slower, but last longer and leave slower as well.  I truly believe we may be entering into a golden age of art and culture after the mainstream vacuum that was the 2000’s.  Politically, I think America’s age is passing.  but culturally and spiritually I think we are just now coming into our own and some very, very exciting things are going to happen.  However, for many people caught unawares their lifestyle may be altered in a highly undesirable way, and as such the transition will not be entirely pain free (but when is it ever?)
  And yes, there will be a dark side, as there always is.  Charles Manson personified the dark side of the 60’s, using acid to twist the minds of impressionable young people and make them into his crazy ass minions, killing movie stars and waiting for a race war which would let the Manson Family rule over a nation of black people. Or some bonkers shit like that. 
  This time, I would not be surprised if the U.S. Government/Corporate power structure takes an antagonistic stance towards internet freedom and starts trying to shut down online sites of subversion, which will not be listed here but are easy to find if you know what to Google.  I hope they do not turn against the people, but it wouldn’t be the first time (remember, a huge percentage of the U.S. population is in prison at any one time, many for non-violent drug offenses).
  So what can we do as individuals to be part of this change? Well, for one thing recognize that the core of any large scale change is spiritual, in individuals and in societies.  It may not always be described in that language, but if we are afraid to look within and see the dirty organisms living in our closet, no evolution is possible. What’s the best way to do that? Meditate, yoga….general self inquiry. The list goes on. Ultimately, I think the deeper we go inside ourselves before this shift, the more prepared for it we’ll be and the better position we’ll be in to benefit from it.



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Re: My theory of history and 2012 (long read) [Re: g00ru]
    #14332454 - 04/22/11 09:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i didn't read this is to long. unless this is a joke i'd suggest cutting it to 3 words or less. deliver in an egyptian yell and you'll be fine. you tarnish the term guru but somone had to


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Re: My theory of history and 2012 (long read) [Re: justin340]
    #14332458 - 04/22/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

shouldn't let trolls get to me :nonono:


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Re: My theory of history and 2012 (long read) [Re: g00ru]
    #14332500 - 04/22/11 09:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wow that is long, but I do value your input and will read it eventually :smile:


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Re: My theory of history and 2012 (long read) [Re: teknix]
    #14333643 - 04/22/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Your idea of change is similiar, if not identical, to McKenna's idea of novelty, which is essentially growing complexity which leads to ever increasing change (towards an omega point/2012 idea).

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I believe these civilizations, which to us are the oldest on the planet, were actually descendents of an Atlantean civilization as written about by Plato.




Agreed.

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The second explanation, more metaphysical in nature, is that as a natural cosmic function, many sages started incarnating on earth near the turn towards Kali Yuga, as a way to offer liberation and salvation to the souls that wanted out before shit got lame.



:lol:


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This brings me to my ultimate point: 2012.  What is seen by many as another y2k type theory of apocalypse or some new age babble, is actually a product of the internet. I think it is the next energy bomb, along the lines of the 1960’s or the enlightenment.  Due to the internet and the increased communication it provides, people are talking about the future and forming some vague consensus that something big is going to happen.  Obviously the predictions take many forms, but 2012 is the meme that has surfaced most apparently from the soup of online minds.  I think the internet, and its huge influx of information, is causing the rapid spiritual/energetic advancement of many beings in this day and age.




Yea man. 2012 is simply the catch phrase for the energy which can be sensed. Could people in 1990 imagine how we are living now? I think all the 2012 stuff is over the event horizon and we simply cannot imagine what its going to be like. However, as you point out, it is intimately intertwined with technology, the emergence of the technological noosphere, interconnectedness, etc. 


Overall enjoyed the read. :thumbup:
You should check out this hour ling interview of Terrance McKenna, the last he did before his death (I've got a hunch his soul is running around in a 13 year old boy right now:grin:). It corresponds to a lot of your own ideas. He had this idea that history is all leading up to a singularity of sorts, and we can see the shells or echoes of this throughout history. Of course they are ever increasing and becoming closer together as we approach to point in time. http://www.realitysandwich.com/node/93685


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Re: My theory of history and 2012 (long read) [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14334328 - 04/22/11 05:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Interesting read. Good share. Definitely some good points in there, especially the end.

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However, it does seem that during this shifting age, there will be a collision of variables we have set aside. The prison is one of many such as the Earth's condition. Every day we tear a new hole into the Earth that makes it uninhabitable for life, every day the peoples of this Earth are suppressed by any one government in the world, everyday we collectively choose to look the other way while our health walks away, everyday we consume ourselves with our egos collectively to a point of absolute reaction, the list goes on and on. It really will be an exciting time to take part in this change.

Thank you for sharing :smile:

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Re: My theory of history and 2012 (long read) [Re: OneU]
    #14334827 - 04/22/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah it goes without saying that so much of this owes a lot to terrence mckenna, i just wanted to put it all in my own words. Thanks for reading.

And yeah Cosmonaut, no matter what Terrence is gonna see what goes down :cool:


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Re: My theory of history and 2012 (long read) [Re: g00ru]
    #14334987 - 04/22/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"Chi, Prana, Mojo, Soul, Light, Spirit, Four-Loko (jk)…these terms all refer to a fundamental energy. "

That made me lose it.  Great read, thanks for posting!


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Re: My theory of history and 2012 (long read) [Re: g00ru]
    #14336991 - 04/23/11 03:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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guruu said:
    So, if a person has lots of creative energy, they can cause great change upon their surroundings, and within themselves.  A person like this will be constantly changing and evolving.  You certainly know people like this; they are the people who succeed at goals, are always trying something new, always improving, and basically the most energetic and dynamic characters around.  Often they are artists, and put their creative energy to use in manifesting entirely new realities.  Sometimes, however, very high energy people are not artists, and bring change to their worlds through less artistic means.  However, when viewed from a broader perspective, everybody’s life is a work of art, and any beautiful life story is certainly caused by a very high, very chi-filled being.





I enjoyed the read,especially that part.  Thanks for posting :mushroom2:


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