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Celestial Traveler
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Questions on Ketamine
#14331544 - 04/22/11 02:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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First have you ever tried it? Is it considered a psychedelic? Also I've heard K-hole trips are pretty insane...how do they compare to DMT?
Also, how much does it take to overdose on ketamine, and how much to reach a "K-hole?" Sorry for all the questions I am just really curious
Thanks
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fugazi32
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Stay away from Ketamine (my personal experience of it). It f**ks up peoples' lives, messes your bladder up, messes your head up (very neuro-toxic) and it is very addictive. It is more akin to something like PCP or DXM rather than psychedelics. Stick to the natural ones...
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Ferdinando


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Re: Questions on Ketamine [Re: fugazi32]
#14331641 - 04/22/11 03:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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IMO it can be good serious moderation seems very important with this one be careful
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BadAcid
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Re: Questions on Ketamine [Re: Ferdinando]
#14331783 - 04/22/11 05:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I used to take K all the time.
Trust me please, it's the absolute worst drug in the world for your health much worse than coke or heroin.
Hundreds of thousands of people in the UK have had to have their bladders removed and pee into a bag through a tube.
The worst is that this effect takes a long time to manifest.
So you use it heavily for a year then stop, 3 years later your bladder will start to fail in direct proportion to how much you took starting 4 years ago.
The effects are dope as hell, nothing like DMT at all, I used to call it psycadelic alcohol. It numbs you to the world and there are amazing hallucinations, very fun.
But it will fuck your bladder, I promise.
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Libertin
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Re: Questions on Ketamine [Re: BadAcid]
#14331806 - 04/22/11 05:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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BadAcid said: I used to take K all the time.
Trust me please, it's the absolute worst drug in the world for your health much worse than coke or heroin.
Hundreds of thousands of people in the UK have had to have their bladders removed and pee into a bag through a tube.
The worst is that this effect takes a long time to manifest.
So you use it heavily for a year then stop, 3 years later your bladder will start to fail in direct proportion to how much you took starting 4 years ago.
The effects are dope as hell, nothing like DMT at all, I used to call it psycadelic alcohol. It numbs you to the world and there are amazing hallucinations, very fun.
But it will fuck your bladder, I promise.
Perhaps if you abuse it. Using it a few times however, shouldn't be a problem should it? Afterall, it is safely used in hospitals as an anaesthetic.
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BadAcid
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Re: Questions on Ketamine [Re: Libertin]
#14331816 - 04/22/11 05:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nonsense!"!!!!
maybe for animals! Hence the name 'Horse tranquillizer'
A few times is obviously fine.
But I am worried you will enjoy it, like I did, very much and end up peeing through a tube.
Luckily I saw all the older heads around me loosing their bladders and said 'i'm out'
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German Kahuna
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Re: Questions on Ketamine [Re: BadAcid]
#14331841 - 04/22/11 05:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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BadAcid said: Hundreds of thousands of people in the UK have had to have their bladders removed and pee into a bag through a tube.
Sorry, but you are retarded. You are spreading the worst misinformation I've ever seen. There are 50 million Brits. If "hundreds of thousands have had to have their bladder removed" then you are implying that a majority of brits are doing ketamine in an excessive way and that it is so toxic that it will cause a vital organ to fail in a large percentage of people. What a bunch of BOLLOCKS.
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BadAcid
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mkay don't listen to me then.
totally up to you.
couldn't give a shit either way.
Just thought I'd save a few people, don't mind me.
I respect your identification skills.
I will admit that I pulled that figure out of thin air, but ALOT of people are going through this situation because K is very popular and cheap here.
And if you don't beleive it can damage your bladder then you know nothing about it at all: http://www.erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?ID=8004
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German Kahuna
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Re: Questions on Ketamine [Re: BadAcid]
#14331858 - 04/22/11 05:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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BadAcid said: Nonsense!"!!!!
Your bullshit is nonsense in a big way. Sources? Other than what your equally retarded friends have been telling you I mean. Like scientific sources. Ketamine is not a "horse tranquilizer", even though it is being used on animals, too, it was originally a strong anaestetic still used on humans. Rarely, but it is still being used. A small number has had to have their bladder removed. And only some of those who used ketamine in a totally excessive way, like at least a gram a day or more (which is a ridiculous amount).
You would only need to read Wikipedia and you'd be able to stop spreading your crap: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketamine#Urinary_tract_effects
"Hundreds of thousands", LOL.
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Libertin
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Quote:
German Kahuna said:
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BadAcid said: Hundreds of thousands of people in the UK have had to have their bladders removed and pee into a bag through a tube.
Sorry, but you are retarded. You are spreading the worst misinformation I've ever seen. There are 50 million Brits. If "hundreds of thousands have had to have their bladder removed" then you are implying that a majority of brits are doing ketamine in an excessive way and that it is so toxic that it will cause a vital organ to fail in a large percentage of people. What a bunch of BOLLOCKS.
Heh. I didn't even notice this - I must have read it as 'hundreds and thousands'. Of course this is careless BS. Nice to see you posting in PE German Kahuna.
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BadAcid
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what a big mannn
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German Kahuna
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Re: Questions on Ketamine [Re: BadAcid]
#14331865 - 04/22/11 06:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Your posts are spreading misinformation and fear. It's not better than Reefer Madness.
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I will admit that I pulled that figure out of thin air
That settles it then. Who is supposed to take you serious?
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German Kahuna
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Just to get this straight: I know that excessive use of ketamine is bad, especially for your bladder. I use like 100mg every 2 weeks and that will do absolutely no damage. Now, I don't doubt that Coaster will have to have his bladder removed in a few years, but the majority of moderate user will see no negative effects whatsoever ever. And the people I know are ALL moderate users and ketamine is NOT physically addictive. If you get mentally addicted then you have a different problem and should seek treatment anyways. Ketamine in itself is not harmful if taken in moderation. Sorry for flipping out, but it aggravates me when people spread totally false information and hating on a completely harmless drug. You could say the same thing about aspirin, by the way. If you eat 20 aspirin a day it's not going to be good for you either.
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BadAcid
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I appreciate your point of view.
" hating on a completely harmless drug " now who's spreading falsies?
Apart from the 100,000 nonsense everything I said was based on fact, and direct observation.
100mg??? thats such a small amount! Over here people go through a gram each in a normal session.
anyway, the people will take from this discussion what they want, and if they are interested, they will research the truth.
So my work here is done!
Cheers
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German Kahuna
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Re: Questions on Ketamine [Re: BadAcid]
#14331914 - 04/22/11 06:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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A gram in one session?? When I first tried it (nasal) I took 50mg and it fucked me up. How can anyone who isn't a completely polytoxicomaniac drug fiend go through a GRAM in one session?? Those amounts are ridiculous. It is active in the two figure miligram range. A gram?? Jesus. It's no wonder that folks are harming themselves if they dose that reckless. Oh, and by the way, ketamine has been the most favorite drug for asian teenagers for some time and I think if they'd be shitting their bladders left and right we'd know by now.
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AntiEverything
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i can imagine going through a gram in a session if your tolerance is really high, but yeh thats pretty ridiculous
100mg-150mg would put me in a khole w/ no tolerance 200mg+ id be vomiting and sick (no tolerance)
when my tolerance was at its highest it took like 300mg to hole out. and even at this point the "hole" was pretty weak.
it it necessary and or even possible to khole more than once per day?
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German Kahuna
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If it was necessary for anyone then those are the same people that would require constant reanimation if they did heroin or drank 4 bottles of vodka instead. That's just totally overboard and excessive. I like my drugs recreationally, not recklessly and "on the edge". Those people have another problem and it's not the drugs. Seeing a shrink would be in order.
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BadAcid
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A gram here is £20.
This is the problem.
I know people who can do up to 3 a day every day and yes, they have a tolerance.
It's just too cheap, so people get fucked up all day every day.
How much is it in Germany?
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briant230


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I have no tolerance and need at least 100mg just to get that drunk wavy feeling guess everyone's different
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German Kahuna
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Re: Questions on Ketamine [Re: BadAcid]
#14332054 - 04/22/11 07:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I pay between 15 and 30 Euro, so the price is about the same. What has that to do with it? Nothing.
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