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OfflineAzure Essence
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Forms and figures or abstract geometry?
    #14331248 - 04/22/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've tripped what I would call a considerable amount in the last few years, but the extent of the visuals I get are the standard pulsing, breathing, rainbow, geometrical abstract shapes and what not. I dont think I've really yet experienced any 'archetype' figures or elves, no anthropomorphic divine plant spirits, or any figures of the kind, or any DNA strands or what have you. I've been reading Breaking Open the Head, and there are a lot of accounts of people witnessing like humanistic forms and shit I guess, that I dont really get. I mean I think about a lot of shit like family and friends and can vividly see them, but nothing beyond that I suppose. No 'mystical beings' tho most trips are pretty mystical.

Whats your take on this, and tell me about some of you forms and figures you've seen.

Edited by Azure Essence (04/22/11 01:01 AM)

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Re: Forms and figures or abstract geometry? [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14331303 - 04/22/11 01:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you can't force a preconceived notion of a trip to happen.

you can sort of learn how to trip but not by willing a set type of visual you've never had. You can't describe something to yourself you haven't yet had...like how early life erotic dreams are vague and then just end in orgasm...you don't KNOW the physical sensations of sex to put them into your dream...

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Re: Forms and figures or abstract geometry? [Re: JohnnyConverse]
    #14333475 - 04/22/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm sorry, but what?

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Re: Forms and figures or abstract geometry? [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14336711 - 04/23/11 01:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Increase dosage by at least 500%.

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Re: Forms and figures or abstract geometry? [Re: azay]
    #14337000 - 04/23/11 03:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I can kind of share an experience. Ive noticed in all my trips a morphing face figure of constantly changing shapes/face(s)/ patterns and it always had a more intense prescence almost intimidating. Ive always kept my distance and put my focus elsewhere until one time on a heavy dose of ps cyans/ cyanofriscosca.

Im not going to go into detail much but i noticed this prescence on a wall as i was walking by and it felt as if my body was pulled to it. It is impossible to explain how it looked but it was almost like a translucent portal about 2 feet tall directly face level that was constantly shifting into many designs and wierd faces in a face?like many beings but all one being? It is impossible to describe.

I said nothing out loud and it never talked out loud just in my mind. I was frozen looking at it for a long  time.basically it said it/they said it was an entity that was able to communicate with the mushroom/ somehow use the mushroom from some other place. Ut let me ask it questions and answers. Some answers didnt make sense. And it would talk o me almost impatient like someone talking to a slow child.

It told me things like humans were weak creatures and they were higher on some kind of level or chain. It saidthey were the mushroom but actually seperate from the mushroom. They said something to the extent that they were also like pure knowledge in a way that i cant even describe or doesnt make sense in my mind. It said they like us that eat its flesh because we spread the mushroom around via spores and via making other people acessable to them?

I asked them if they would offer protection and they said yes as long as i continue to become a more positive healthy strong being. They also went through my thoughts and showed my fucked up thinking and how i was weak.i asked alot of different things but i choose not discuss those until i can understand it. One thing that stood out was i wanted to know exactly where they were and could i go there. They said they could pull me there but it was very likely i wouldnt return or i would return in a way that i wouldnt be able to physically function as a physical being.

This was a very strong experience and i dont know if it was real at all. I still tell myself it was just inmy mind and i created the whole thing and the mushroom just intensified it. I dont know why i even posted this. But part of my mind questions was it real? Was it part real? Was it false? Does it even matter?

I have a stable mind and dont do any hard drugs. Just smoke weed a lil bit maybe a drink once in awhile. I am a good person. Have a family and love my family and my life.


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Re: Forms and figures or abstract geometry? [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14337065 - 04/23/11 04:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Forms and figures or abstract geometry? [Re: Johnny Depp]
    #14337384 - 04/23/11 08:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Don't know the answer to your question, but last night I saw some really trippy things.

The weirdest was:

I visualized myself walking through an all glass building (floors, walls ceilings everything was made of glass).  As I was walking through the building, I looked down at a glass table that had a clear glass bottle on it.  In the bottle was me, walking around in a miniature building.  As I looked closely, inside the bottle, I was looking down at a small bottle, inside that was me ...

All I could think was WHOA!

I usually get very vivid geometric images, this time they seemed more "pop art" type. 

All in all, a very different kind of feeling.


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Re: Forms and figures or abstract geometry? [Re: LanLord]
    #14337412 - 04/23/11 08:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"trumpets and violins i can hear in the distance calling our names maybe now you can't hear them but you will if you take hold of my hand but first are you experienced?"

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Re: Forms and figures or abstract geometry? [Re: jonjacob]
    #14337925 - 04/23/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Forms and figures or abstract geometry? [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14344179 - 04/24/11 04:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Azure Essence said:
I'm sorry, but what?




You're entering the trip with a preconception of a trip, but it's a trip you've never seen

So you can't induce it.

Trip with an open mind and learn the trips you have and you might be able to induce one

but you can't go off descriptions or preconceptions really until you have tripped yourself

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Re: Forms and figures or abstract geometry? [Re: JohnnyConverse]
    #14344220 - 04/24/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I once had CEV's of random images like cartoon astronauts, ice cream, fire trucks, bananas, more stuff that is generally positive, flowing at me in multiple layers.
One layer of 5x8 and then another and then another. on and on.
In the background rainbows of color would splash and swim around and toward me. Cartoon planets and stars in the background as well. Ive seen DNA strands. Ive seen cultural symbols from India.

All on one trip with 2c-i.

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Re: Forms and figures or abstract geometry? [Re: JohnnyConverse]
    #14344548 - 04/24/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

Azure Essence said:
I'm sorry, but what?




You're entering the trip with a preconception of a trip, but it's a trip you've never seen

So you can't induce it.

Trip with an open mind and learn the trips you have and you might be able to induce one

but you can't go off descriptions or preconceptions really until you have tripped yourself




No no, I never said I've been trying to see people. I just said that I never have. And with that logic, no one would ever trip ever, because they would have no other trips to 'learn and might be able to induce one'. That logic doesnt make sense

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Re: Forms and figures or abstract geometry? [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14344960 - 04/24/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It makes total sense. I didn't say you couldn't trip I said you couldn't guide yourself to a type of trip you've never felt

If you want to do this you have to understand that your first trips are too unexplored country.

Once you've been you can try to find a way back to specific layers in ... whatever you call it. Hyperspace/the dreamtime etc

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Re: Forms and figures or abstract geometry? [Re: JohnnyConverse]
    #14345120 - 04/24/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've had the same experience OP. The most distinguishable figures I have seen were when I was on 5g of mushrooms. I saw the face of a lion when I closed my eyes. It wasn't detailed like a photograph, it was just a yellow outline against the crimson that you see when you close your eyes and look towards the sun. The other was faces of about three people, they looked like they were posing for a photograph, again they were just the outlines, albeit detailed, they were not seen with eyes closed though they were on a white sheet of paper surrounded by Aztec style designs.

Other than that I have never encountered humanoid/clearly identifiable objects.


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