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Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please?
    #14330553 - 04/21/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Recently made a purchase... Please help me decide if I made a wise one.

Here are the images:





If cubes, is it possible to identify strain? I know... Fat chance right!?

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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: MrNotorious]
    #14330571 - 04/21/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Super Blue Paddy Pumpers...all the way!:awesome:


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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: Bobzimmer]
    #14330591 - 04/21/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Super Blue Paddy Pumpers...all the way!:awesome:




Not familiar with the terminology. Care to elaborate?

*rubs hands together*

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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: Bobzimmer]
    #14330605 - 04/21/11 11:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

HE means they are cubes and strain doesn't matter.


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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: EnigmaticMind]
    #14330627 - 04/21/11 11:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I know it does not matter in terms of tripping but when it comes to my curiosity, that's a different story.

I have PF Classic's and Gold Teachers started and if these can be identified and they end up being better or worse then mine, it may be a deciding factor in me using them again.... Know what I mean?

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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: MrNotorious]
    #14330659 - 04/21/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I was just summing up what his phrase meant,
It's next to impossible by the naked eye to tell the 'strains' apart when they are fresh let alone dry.
Sorry I couldn't settle your curiosity.


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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: EnigmaticMind]
    #14330671 - 04/21/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ahh, no worries.. I figured that would be the case.

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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: MrNotorious]
    #14330686 - 04/21/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No problem.
Have fun.

:peace:


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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: MrNotorious]
    #14330699 - 04/21/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Isn't there a thread for dried active pictures some place?

I figure I might as well put the pictures to good use so some one down the road can use them for comparison.

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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: EnigmaticMind]
    #14330743 - 04/21/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I was just summing up what his phrase meant,
It's next to impossible by the naked eye to tell the 'strains' apart when they are fresh let alone dry.
Sorry I couldn't settle your curiosity.




Quote:

EnigmaticMind said:
HE means they are cubes and strain doesn't matter.




strain does matter and it is very possible to tell strains apart when they are fresh.

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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: bloodworm]
    #14330785 - 04/21/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If that is true I apologize for spreading misinformation.


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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: EnigmaticMind]
    #14330952 - 04/21/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I can tell some strains apart, but most I can't. Some seem to be more potent than others, but not by much.:shrug:


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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: Bobzimmer]
    #14331016 - 04/22/11 12:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've always gone by a cube is a cube (except maybe PE)


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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: bloodworm]
    #14331153 - 04/22/11 12:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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bloodworm said:
strain does matter and it is very possible to tell strains apart when they are fresh.



:lol:
Sorry but this really made me chuckle.
Can I show you 10 cubensis pictures and you will correctly guess the 'strain'?
I don't think that's possible. Actually, I'm pretty sure you'd have to be psychic and 'read' what was written on the print it was grown from. Except for the ones with obvious mutations that show often, like 'penis envy' or albinos.
And I also don't believe that 'strain' matters. You will never get consistent characteristics from the same 'strain'. I think what's more important is the level of domestication, how much that particular genetics are adapted to artificial conditions.
What cultivators of edible mushrooms call a strain is an isolate, one organism, that always shows the traits it was chosen for. Here strains make all the difference. But not if you have hundreds of genetically distinct strains in one grain jar, like you would from a sporeprint.
Also, don't be so naive to think that no one ever mislabeled their prints so they could sell or trade them easily.
And everyone's always talking about potency, is one strain more potent than others etc. Cubensis are all pretty much the same, weakly active, it varies by a bit. If you guys want potency, then grow Panaeolus cyanescens, where 3 grams FRESH will kick your ass to Hell, Heaven and back.

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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: MrNotorious]
    #14331256 - 04/22/11 01:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

MrNotorious said:
Isn't there a thread for dried active pictures some place?

I figure I might as well put the pictures to good use so some one down the road can use them for comparison.



Yes, there is:
Do you think you got ripped off? Are your shrooms bunk? Confirmed dried actives thread
I link people to this thread about once a week, but the mods haven't stickied it for some reason :shrug:

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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: Tangich]
    #14331368 - 04/22/11 01:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Tangich said:
Quote:

bloodworm said:
strain does matter and it is very possible to tell strains apart when they are fresh.



:lol:
Sorry but this really made me chuckle.
Can I show you 10 cubensis pictures and you will correctly guess the 'strain'?
I don't think that's possible. Actually, I'm pretty sure you'd have to be psychic and 'read' what was written on the print it was grown from. Except for the ones with obvious mutations that show often, like 'penis envy' or albinos.
And I also don't believe that 'strain' matters. You will never get consistent characteristics from the same 'strain'. I think what's more important is the level of domestication, how much that particular genetics are adapted to artificial conditions.
What cultivators of edible mushrooms call a strain is an isolate, one organism, that always shows the traits it was chosen for. Here strains make all the difference. But not if you have hundreds of genetically distinct strains in one grain jar, like you would from a sporeprint.
Also, don't be so naive to think that no one ever mislabeled their prints so they could sell or trade them easily.
And everyone's always talking about potency, is one strain more potent than others etc. Cubensis are all pretty much the same, weakly active, it varies by a bit. If you guys want potency, then grow Panaeolus cyanescens, where 3 grams FRESH will kick your ass to Hell, Heaven and back.




:lol:
sorry but this really made me chuckle.
can i show you 10 different marijuana pictures and you will correctly guess the "strain?"

i will respond to all of these statements with the same email i just wrote to EnigmaticMind:

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"Hello there,
Didn't feel like hijacking that guys thread so I decided to send a PM.
This PM is not being sent to incite an argument but to satisfy my curiosity
I'd like to start off by stating I spend most of my time in the cultivation forums and have always been under the impression that a cube is a cube (except perhaps PE.

Could you elaborate on how it matters what cube strain it is (For this question I'm excluding PE)?


Also I've done a few grows using different strains of cubes and seen many on the forums. If people never told me what strain it was, just by looking at it I wouldn't be able to identify which strain it was.
So I was curious if it really is possible to look at a cube and say hey that would be strain A+
Of if you meant that minor macroscopic differences just classified it as a different strain regardless of the name it goes under?

Once again not trying to start anything just curious, when I'm wrong I like to find out why I am."

my response
"no problem man.
i can personally tell the difference in cubes from field to field (from how they look to how they feel and how potent they are), let alone isolated strains.
aside from shape, color, potency and overall production rate and volume; you have to take into consideration ease of growth, mycelium production rate, consistency as well as flavor.
different farmers and different fields produce different crops (varying in shape, size, taste, texture, overall appearance and flavor). this is dependent on a variety of factors including location, grower, soil, weather conditions, attention to detail, exposure to oxygen and light, all the way down to how the shrooms are harvested, when they are harvested and how they are transported and/or dried).
to say that a cube is a cube is like saying all beef, pork, corn, vegetables (so forth and so on) all taste the same and have the same effect on the body.
this is ridiculous.
weather, exposure to the elements, cattle, field, substrate and many other factors can all effect the outcome of a grow and/or hunt.
take this as an example:
vs.
both of these "strains" were picked from 2 different fields at 2 different times of the year. the second being more fruitful as well as more potent. this has to do with mycelium production and a host of other reasons already mentioned.
how about this:
vs.
can you see the difference?
of course you can.
all fungi breathe oxygen, just as humans do.
all plants breath carbon dioxide.
this is irrelevant except for the case that humans as well as cubes vary in many ways. a lot of this has to do with climate, environment, upbringing and so on.
it is foolish to think that all of these factors do not play a role in a cubes identity.
characteristics amongst different "strains" vary greatly according to a variety of factors as previously mentioned.
i do not subscribe to the notion that a cube is a cube.
that is like saying a human is a human or an apple is an apple.
we each exhibit different traits and these traits are identifiable both physically and mentally.
sure, taking 5 grams of PES Hawaiian may in theory have the same effect as taking 5 grams of Colorado, but each experience is in of itself different because we have to look at the fungi for what it is and appreciate the experience it produces.
i do believe that a lot of spore companies market different strains too rapidly, therefore "watering" down the market with "strains" that may seem to produce the same effect given the same dose.
however, if we look inside and appreciate the fungi for what it is naturally we can easily observe the differences aside from the old, "oh man, i tripped balls last night."
do you follow my logic?
appreciate nature for what it is and i believe you will come closer to understanding what exactly it is the mushroom is trying to tell us.
every experience is different.
that is because every experience is supposed to be different.
we are and should not take mushrooms (cubes) for granted, but instead allow them to take us where they want us to be.
this is the only way we can learn to appreciate them for what they really are. a gift from nature that varies greatly from fungi to fungi dependent on many variables.
if all cubes were the same, then all experiences, thoughts and actions would be the same.
we experience these different emotions and experiences because they are NOT all the same but different and unique and should be treated as such.
i also believe that hunting and eating more field mushrooms (cubes) will allow you to develop a greater appreciation for the different ways they try to speak to us.
sorry for the rant and if i got too philosophical.
i am just a firm believer in the fact that every mushroom, cube, fungi (whatever) is different and should be treated and valued as such.

i hope this helps clears up my point of view.

as always...

peace and love
bloodworm"

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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: bloodworm]
    #14331394 - 04/22/11 01:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

@MrNotorious:

sorry for hijacking your thread.

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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: bloodworm]
    #14331408 - 04/22/11 01:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No worries, I'm just glad to have legit mushies. Plus, it just gives me something to read!

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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: Tangich]
    #14331474 - 04/22/11 02:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Tangich said:
Quote:

bloodworm said:
strain does matter and it is very possible to tell strains apart when they are fresh.



If you guys want potency, then grow Panaeolus cyanescens, where 3 grams FRESH will kick your ass to Hell, Heaven and back.




you obviously miss the point of eating mushrooms.
how is that working out for you?

just wondering.
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Re: Can any TI's identify my dried shrooms please? [Re: MrNotorious]
    #14331488 - 04/22/11 02:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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bloodworm said:
to say that a cube is a cube is like saying all beef, pork, corn, vegetables (so forth and so on) all taste the same and have the same effect on the body.
this is ridiculous.



No it's not, it's like saying that every chicken tastes basically the same, and you wouldn't be able to tell the breed when it's laying grilled on your plate.
Your logic is full of flaws, you seem to think that Psilocybe cubensis is the only psychoactive mushroom, and you can get differences in trips only by eating different strains. There are over 200 hundred psilocybin containing species, with different ratios of alkaloids, and even they don't differ as much, just nuances of the same basic experience.
But that doesn't mean either of us is wrong or right, if you can feel the differences than that's awesome, I honestly don't even like cubes, and especially the whole commercial and marketing aspect of the strain names.


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you obviously miss the point of eating mushrooms.
how is that working out for you?



Hahahaha another 'mushrooms are teh enlightenment' post.
While I tend to agree with that somewhat, it's still just your brain and an introduced alkaloid screwing with the balance.
And the point of eating mushrooms is obviously buying 10 different cubensis strains from vendors, right? If the sponsors sell it, then it must be the voice of God, right?

Edited by Tangich (04/22/11 02:14 AM)

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