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My first Oyster logs (Update 05/08/11)
    #14330260 - 04/21/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's been a long time coming and I've still got a long way to go. It's been three months since I started my endeavor to grow gourmet mushrooms and my first straw logs are almost ready for harvest.


The particulars

Pearl Oyster form Ralphster's
3' x 10" diameter straw logs inoculated with 6 quarts of rye spawn
Colonized for 3 weeks at 75°f
Fruited for 2 weeks at 60°f and 100% humidity





I am still having a hard time getting enough fresh air into my grow room so I will have to install another fan. I have another 11 logs ready to fruit. For the next batch I'm going to switch up the conditions a bit, raising the temperature to 65°f and dropping the humidity as low as is permitted (75% ?)



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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: GroboClone]
    #14330335 - 04/21/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Are you growing for yourself, or are you trying to sell them to restaurants and such?


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: JonnyS]
    #14330427 - 04/21/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The goal is to supply restaurants, groceries and sell at farmers markets.

I'm going to give most of this first bunch away as samples.


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: GroboClone]
    #14330649 - 04/21/11 11:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wait, you say those are pearl oysters?  Sure they're not king oysters?  Nice grow regardless... looks like you've got it down.  I had a risotto dinner tonight with asparagus and king oysters and it was delish.


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: GroboClone]
    #14331500 - 04/22/11 02:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

those are King Oyster -P eryngii.


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: eLShaMukO]
    #14331557 - 04/22/11 02:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm, how sure are you guys? I kind of hope it's true because I'm having a hell of a time getting the caps to open up. They're also a bit dark for Pearl Oysters. Here is the syringe I received clearly labeled as Pleurotus Ostreatus.



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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: GroboClone]
    #14331567 - 04/22/11 02:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

very sure,those are kings.


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: eLShaMukO]
    #14332557 - 04/22/11 10:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sure look like kings to me:



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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: MonkeyKnifeFight]
    #14333620 - 04/22/11 02:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Those are looking great, and definitely do look like king oyster.

I'm a little worried about the syringe of king oyster I got from ralph, I had a bunch of bags of straw/coir/wbs that never pinned and even two straw blocks that wouldn't pin either.

I was thinking it was because of not enough nutrients (I was under the impression king oyster needed more than straw) but now I'm starting to think my culture might not have been good or a different mushroom or maybe I stretched it to senescence by making a grain LC?

The weird thing is the blocks formed these puffballs of mycellium and I was sure that pins would from but never did.

I'm trying again with wheat grain spawn to pasteurized straw and 20% alfalfa in straw logs and hopefully I'll have some better results.


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: themycoman]
    #14334122 - 04/22/11 04:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Definately Kings, i recognised them immediately.


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: punkin]
    #14339549 - 04/23/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They look good.  I have grown the pearl a few times and the caps tend to lighten when they mature,  even though yours appear darker than what I have seen.  It is next to impossible for me to mix up syringes and Grobo I will send you a King Oyster syringe so you can tell for your self just pm your info to me.

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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: Ralph_Edibles]
    #14339750 - 04/23/11 05:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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It is NEXT to impossible for me to mix up syringes




those are king oysters

if you dont believe that yourself, post a pic on mushroom identification .
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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: eLShaMukO]
    #14339791 - 04/23/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I believe they look like Kings if they still look like Kings upon full maturity is yet to be seen.
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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: Ralph_Edibles]
    #14340003 - 04/23/11 06:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Now i want to grow some kings.


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: Humility]
    #14340076 - 04/23/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Here is a cluster I picked this morning. I don't know how close to full maturity they are but I didn't want them dropping spores all over the place.



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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: Humility]
    #14340081 - 04/23/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Here is a cluster I picked this morning. I don't know how close to full maturity they are but I didn't want them dropping spores all over the place.

The ruler didn't come out too clear, the whole thing is about 6" tall.



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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: GroboClone]
    #14340093 - 04/23/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They look nice,  but they do look like Kings.  I want to send you a King syringe and see how they turn out in your growing conditions.
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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: Ralph_Edibles]
    #14348085 - 04/25/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Put another 11 logs in the room this morning for a total of 14. Things are about to get interesting...




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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: GroboClone]
    #14348238 - 04/25/11 09:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Very nice looking setup you got brother, not sure how I missed this
thread before.

Very interested to see how those logs turn out.

Out of curiosity what method are you using to humidify your room and
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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14348977 - 04/25/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

For Humidity/FAE I'm using an Agar style ultrasonic bucket with a single fogger in it. I'm pushing the air with a 80 cfm fan hooked up to a HEPA filter unit. The air exiting the room goes through a dehumidifier before it mixes with the rest of the air in the basement.

There is a window open on one side of the basement and a bathroom fan pumping air out of a dryer vent on the other side.

With the fogger running nonstop it goes through about 20L of water in 24 hours. This causes a lot of condensation on the walls and ceiling and pools on the floor. I'm currently experimenting with my cycle timer to get the humidity just right.

The whole thing is still in a hacked together proof of concept stage. I'll post some pictures once it's all smoothed out.


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: GroboClone]
    #14350110 - 04/25/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Grobo, how big is your grow room and could you please specify which fogger you bought? 

I'm going to buy some Visqueen for like 75 bucks from Amazon (Panda) and do all 4 walls, floor and ceiling of a room that is 8X11X7 room which according to my calculations is big enough for a sizeable grow op, over a half ton a month.

I'm really pleased to hear that one fogger causes pools of water in your grow room, especially considering that mine is about as small a "room" as could be called such.  I was considering potentially having to purchase multiple units and that was looking a bit pricey.  The best thing about agar's setup is the flexibility in tank size. 

I'm going to get a 1500ml/hr unit which should kill a 30 gallon trashcan (purchased brand new of course) in a bit over three days.  Considering the water will have about 3% bleach or so in it that should keep things clean for three days before I take it 5 feet over to my bathroom and scrub it out. 

Definitely an acceptable amount of maintenance for such a setup (1/2 ton a month with room for expansion up to a ton or so)


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: Humility]
    #14350786 - 04/25/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My room is 6'x9' with a 6.5' ceiling. Its an old coal room and has concrete walls. I finished the floor with waterproof membrane (Delta-FL) followed by 2" high density foam with plywood on top. The walls and ceiling are insulated with foil bubble wrap. I finished it off with vinyl flooring and panda plastic walls and ceiling.

I would highly recommend using vinyl instead of panda plastic for the floor. The plastic will get holes in it and leak, don't ask me how I know, let's just say it wasn't pretty.

Do the floor first then the walls and finally the ceiling, leaving a good size overlap at each joint. Use a good quality, preferably waterproof, tape (I use Tuck Tape)



I'm using a HERI brand fogger, I think I got it from Lee Valley. It's just the standard kind with one ultrasonic element. It was left over from a an ultrasonic cloner I built so I decided to see if it would work.

The fogger easily does 500 ml/hr, I think having it in the bucket with air blowing through ups the capacity.  I'm running into a problem though, the unit is only rated to run 8 hours straight and the ceramic disks are wearing out quickly. The coating separates from the disk and the output goes way down.

I think it's smart to go with the bigger fogger. Is the 1500 ml/hr unit a 5 jet?

I'm using a 25l brew bucket for my reservoir. I just top it up every day and clean it about once a week. Stuff likes to build up on the ultrasonic element so I clean that every couple days. I just run straight water, I don't like the idea of atomized chlorine floating around in the air.


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: GroboClone]
    #14351801 - 04/25/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Vinyl it is then.  Thanks for that as I can probably find some lying around somewhere.


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I think it's smart to go with the bigger fogger. Is the 1500 ml/hr unit a 5 jet?




Yes sir, MCL05 is my choice.  It seems the most appropriate for my needs.


I know having chlorine in the air sounds fishy and potentially dangerous but it's completely safe and helps to provide for an anti-bacterial atmosphere/environ.  Safe of course is relative; how much bleach is okay to eat?

Most experts agree a 3% solution diffused by air is okay; from what I understand it's standard.  I'll keep my fingers crossed though ^_^.


I'm proud of you for going the organic route concerning that variable though.  Does using chemicals for environmental sanitation preclude one from labeling themselves "organic"?  Probably so if it touches the food, eh?


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: Humility]
    #14352316 - 04/25/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for all the info avout your grow space, it's very useful.  I still haven't got my shit together on a fogging setup and the 4 day easter break and mutant king fruits prove i need it.  Stupid hydroponic stores all closed today! Grrrr!


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: NSF]
    #14355281 - 04/26/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Grobo, that's a good looking set up - the fact that you got Kings and not Pearls is a bonus - less spore load, better taste, longer shelf life and usually a much higher sales value! They are also much more CO2 tolerant so don't be surprised if you have to up the FAE for Pearls.

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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: solarity]
    #14355812 - 04/26/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the kind words everyone.

Here is my first batch of samples ready to go out, seven one pound packs. The cluster weighs 9 oz. Not to bad for my first two logs considering we've been eating oysters with nearly every meal. Total off the two logs was well over 10 lbs.



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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: solarity]
    #14358250 - 04/26/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Grobo those look beautiful man.  Where'd you buy your containers from?  That's one thing I haven't sourced yet.  I would love to find a shop online that sells little open cardboard boxes that have little mushrooms on them.  All of the sites that sell them for fruits and veg don't have mushroom boxes.

Those that you're using look very sterile and clean and appealing to a modern consumer though; I like them a lot!


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: GroboClone]
    #14358328 - 04/26/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Thanks for the kind words everyone.

Here is my first batch of samples ready to go out, seven one pound packs. The cluster weighs 9 oz. Not to bad for my first two logs considering we've been eating oysters with nearly every meal. Total off the two logs was well over 10 lbs.






What are you planning to charge per lb if you do not mind me asking?


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14358842 - 04/26/11 11:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Humility
right now I'm just using lettuce/spinach containers that I saved. For smaller quantities I'm using berry containers. Eventually I'll get reuseable containers for bulk orders and cardboard boxes for retail.


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Around here factory farm Oysters at the bigger supermarkets are $4 for a 100g pack, around $18/lb . They are tiny and come on a styrofoam tray wrapped in plastic. Most of the time they are literally rotting. I've seen some better looking Oysters in bulk at some of the specialty stores. The lowest price was around $16/lb.

Direct to customer I'm going to try $5 for 1/4 pound and $15 for a full pound. Just staring out with round numbers, I'll adjust accordingly.To restaurants and groceries I'm looking for about half of retail. If I can get over $10/lb I'll be very happy.

I have some meetings this week and I will know more then.


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: Humility]
    #14359373 - 04/27/11 02:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Packaging is very important, not just to the customer but it also gives an impression of who you are. Don't go stark white and sterile for organics, be more rustic.

A nice coloured wax or tissue paper in a box helps.

Humility: find plain boxes and then get 2 BIG rubber stamps made, one for 2 sides and one for the top. Piece of cake to apply, old world feel, repeatable and fast.

Wow, graphic design can be useful!  Glad i studied it.


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: GroboClone]
    #14359408 - 04/27/11 02:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Personally I would go for much more space in the box for appearance and profit! Are the boxes ventilated?

You might consider selling by the box/punnet at X$ each rather than weight this also avoids any complex weights/measures/trade legislation you may have.



Before you set prices check the price of King Oysters normally 1.5-2x the price of Pearl, esp for restaurants. - Its much easier to drop your prices than to raise them!


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: solarity]
    #14360222 - 04/27/11 09:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the tips.


The smaller boxes with more room look way better. Here are some 1 lb strawberry boxes with 8 oz of Kings in them.



The weights are more for my own use. They will just be put into Small/Medium/Large containers and sold by volume. Not only does this get around the weight legislation but helps with sticker shock. People are more likely to pick up nice looking box for $5/$10 than pay $20+/lb.

You're right about the prices. I still had Pearl Oysters in my head.  The last thing I was to do is price myself out of business.


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: GroboClone]
    #14360401 - 04/27/11 10:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Can't believe I missed all this hot action!

I love the vynal on the floor, I have panda film rolled out for mine and it is indeed a mess.
I will be making that upgrade soon, Thanks for sharing.

I also love the packaging, I have been sampling mine out in paper bags, I think the little bins you have are much more appealing.:awethumb:

Great job Grobo!!!!!Congrats on the success of your pilot and much continued success and you move forward. It all looks great!!:awedance:


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: Ozzy]
    #14366741 - 04/28/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Things are going good and the mushrooms are moving. I've had offers from $5 to over $20 a pound. Only one store refused them saying they have no market for Oysters.

A lot of interest for different types of mushrooms: Chanterelle, Shiitake, Shimeji, Morels. This is good, hopefully my Shiitake will be ready next month and Morel season is coming up. Most of the stores I went to were catering more to the organic crowd. For the most part they were satisfied enough that I didn't use pesticides or chemical fertilizers. I also mentioned to that I could grow on organic grain and straw if they needed me to.

As I was leaving one store a chef came up to me and told me to stop by his restaurant. I think this will be where the demand is. I'm going to start giving samples to some higher end restaurants focusing on local produce.


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Re: My first Oyster logs [Re: GroboClone]
    #14367920 - 04/28/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yep those strawberry boxes are very similar - the mushrooms really seem to like the ventilation rather than the flow wrapped styrene trays...

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As I was leaving one store a chef came up to me and told me to stop by his restaurant. I think this will be where the demand is. I'm going to start giving samples to some higher end restaurants focusing on local produce.




You are right there, also when you add up the time and packaging costs for the retail punnets you start to realise how nice it is to shift 5 or 10lbs in trays to a restaurant!
Restaurants that are happy to do them as a special will be happy with an erratic supply, the higher end boys might want to know that you can guarantee supply, which at this stage if your pilot is like mine was... you cant, so let them know up front.
Personally I love the chefs and shop keepers that get really excited to see "what I had this week" and would take whatever I brought them!


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My first Oyster logs (Update 05/04/11) [Re: GroboClone]
    #14400476 - 05/04/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The new logs have been in the grow room for 9 days now. They are all showing good growth. The original logs have started their 2nd flush, if you can call it that. Only a few single mushrooms are popping up. I don't think I gave the first logs enough time to colonize. The new logs got a few extra weeks and fruited sooner.



The mushrooms are still fruiting wherever they want so I'm constantly cutting new holes. I think the problem is I didn't cut enough holes initially (maybe 20 per log). All the holes I cut as soon as the logs were packed have nice clusters growing from them. The holes I cut once in the fruiting room, not so much.


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Re: My first Oyster logs (Update 05/04/11) [Re: GroboClone]
    #14401197 - 05/04/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Grobo, this thread is awesome. So much info in just two pages.

I really like your packaging. I'm about to start selling mushrooms at farmers market, and then moving to restaurants and grocery stores. I'm in New Mexico, and there is literally no mushrooms on the shelves at the stores, and none in the restaurants, though I can't speak for the farmers market, so I'm thinking it's going to work out pretty good. I'm thinking going with packaging like yours is going to be better than selling them by the pound, I really like it.

It's also interesting you started from spore...most commercial endeavors I've seen have used a trusted commercial strain, and this was my plan as well. Is this just to get you started, or are you planning on purchasing some monster cultures later on in your mycological career? Have you looked into taxes, etc, because I was curious about that as well.

I'm sorry to ask so many questions. I'm getting ready to try my own commercial endeavor (although we're looking at renting some space somewhere rather than doing it in the house, since we rent an apartment) and I'm just curious to see how others run theirs.


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Re: My first Oyster logs (Update 05/04/11) [Re: guywiththegun]
    #14401662 - 05/04/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Glad to have you on board guywiththegun, I'm always interested in hearing from people heading down the same path as I am.

Even thought I got the syringe from "RalphstersSpores" all their edibles are live mycelium in Liquid Culture. And yes, I definitely want to get my hands on some "monster cultures".  As it stands, I already have another large order of strains/species on the way form Ralph_Edibles. I can't wait to start trading and get some truly great strains.

I don't know too much about New Mexico specifically but I would look for a facility that is underground and mushrooms that can take higher temperatures.  You will probably still  need to cool the air in the summer.


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Re: My first Oyster logs (Update 05/04/11) [Re: GroboClone]
    #14401988 - 05/04/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

We've actually got the temps here in Albuquerque, it doesn't get much above 80 during anytime of the year, and at night it gets real low, around 60 or so. All I really need is a way to control humidity, but since it's so dry I can use a swamp cooler as both cooling and supplemental humidity in theory.


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Re: My first Oyster logs (Update 05/04/11) [Re: guywiththegun]
    #14405668 - 05/05/11 02:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nice, sounds doable then. Now all you have to do is find a space that can handle all the humidity.

Here are some of the early mushrooms. It's going to be a busy week....





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Re: My first Oyster logs (Update 05/04/11) [Re: GroboClone]
    #14411262 - 05/06/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Looking good!  Thanks for all the info and pics..
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I just ordered Ralphs gold, blue and pink oysters.  Hopefully we can swap notes soon!


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Re: My first Oyster logs (Harvest 05/08/11) [Re: aris]
    #14421972 - 05/08/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Here are the mushrooms I picked today. I already sold 5 lbs on Friday and have another 10 lb order to deliver on Monday. This week I have to start getting some restaurants on board, there are still a lot of mushrooms to come off.



This is a fatty that started growing under the plastic. Once I cut it free it plumped right up. It's still growing.



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Re: My first Oyster logs (Harvest 05/08/11) [Re: GroboClone]
    #14429937 - 05/10/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That's a really nice crop! - good job!
Just think if they were the Oysters you thought they were you would only have about 3-4 days to sell them from harvest - and for 50% less money!

Have you calculated a yield yet for the first flush (wet mush/wet sub in %)?


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Re: My first Oyster logs (Harvest 05/08/11) [Re: solarity]
    #14435265 - 05/11/11 02:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm pretty convinced they are Kings. I put the first logs outside for the second flush and they are still producing mushrooms with long stems.


I wasn't too concerned with BE this time around. I didn't weigh the substrate or keep track of the harvested mushrooms any more than weighing before I sell them.

Here is a rough breakdown for 14 logs:

- 3' logs using aprox. 10 lbs dry straw each (1/5 of a bale)
- 6 quart jars of spawn per log
- 5 lbs of mushrooms per log 1st flush

totals

- 140 lbs of dry straw used
- 84 quarts of rye spawn
- ~70 lbs of mushrooms harvested from 1st flush

so that would be around 50% BE.


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Re: My first Oyster logs (Harvest 05/08/11) [Re: GroboClone]
    #14435708 - 05/11/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

They are definately kings - and nice ones too!

Personally I prefer yield to BE for this sort of production. Weigh your wet log inc spawn and anything else, weigh your mushrooms you get from it, divide and that gives you your yield %. Then you can look at a log and know how much it's worth!

The user Buckeye Oysters has had great results with Kings by adding 20% dry weight of Alfalfa to the straw - I duplicated his set up with kings for a tray experiment with good yield results, here. Almost all the yield (of about 19%) came in the first flush.


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Re: My first Oyster logs (Harvest 05/08/11) [Re: solarity]
    #14436245 - 05/11/11 06:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I wonder whether we should change the measure and talk relative to the grain we use at the outset.

I'm metric system but I think a quart is near enough to a litre.  So there's 84 litres of spawn which is probably 60 or so kg of spawn (130lb approx) resulting in 32 kg of fruit (70 pounds).

How have your second flushes tended to go Grobo?  Bigger?


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Re: My first Oyster logs (Harvest 05/08/11) [Re: solarity]
    #14436313 - 05/11/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've read that Kings require a more nutritive substrate. I may give alfalfa a try.

My plan is to set up shelves underneath the hanging logs and grow Kings in trays. I just received my order from Ralphster so I've got some new Oysters to try out on the logs.

The second flush has generally been around 1/4 to 1/2 of the first. The problem is that the mushrooms are growing under the plastic, especially at the top of the logs. Growing in open trays should fix this.

Here is the fat stemmed mushroom I posted before. Took a spore print and cloned it.




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Re: My first Oyster logs (Harvest 05/08/11) [Re: GroboClone]
    #14436548 - 05/11/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I wonder whether you can put some kind of rubber door mat over the tray, that grip stuff they use in restaurant kitchens, with the round holes?

The reason i mention it is that here in Australia all the kings i see in stores are top fruited, and by the looks of it, top bottle fruited.

A mate who had his own shroom business grew from small round bags but always collared the top to make fruiting competitive and limit where the humidity and fresh air contacts the substrate.  Resulting in a consistent 4 same sized fruit per small bag.

Mine aren't quite as nice, well don't grow as consistently.  And the fruit in the foreground are picked from another bag.  You can see the small bags i mentioned before though


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Re: My first Oyster logs (Harvest 05/08/11) [Re: NSF]
    #14440136 - 05/12/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I eat stacks of these things and while there's nothing wrong with the stalks, there's nothing wrong with the caps either.
I suspect the fascination with bid fat stalks and tiny caps is a product of the commercial interests and the storing and transport problems.

Fat stalks and big caps are the best to eat :thumbup:





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Re: My first Oyster logs (Harvest 05/08/11) [Re: punkin]
    #14441347 - 05/12/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Is that a 153.3g mushroom or a 1.533kg mushroom punkin!?! :o

In other news, i've finally put some of your spawn to fruit!  I'm excited!


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Re: My first Oyster logs (Harvest 05/08/11) [Re: NSF]
    #14446165 - 05/13/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

153.3 gm (5.4 oz)single fruit.

Looking forward to hearing how the spawn bags work out for you.


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