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When does a cake become illegal?
#14329977 - 04/21/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello. First time identifier here, with a question I thought you guys could help me out with..
Since spores are legal.. When does a cake technically become illegal? Is it once once it starts to colonize, or is it not until it starts to pin?
just strictly curious... want to know my rights, you know?
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Edited by Earth Child (04/21/11 09:33 PM)
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Earth Child]
#14329981 - 04/21/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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as soon as you nocc it up
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Earth Child]
#14329995 - 04/21/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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because that's technically 'cultivation'?
p.s. - i like your pun, 'nocc up'
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? (moved) [Re: Earth Child]
#14330010 - 04/21/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.
Reason: Moved to a more appropriate forum.
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Earth Child]
#14330012 - 04/21/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yes, but there is also "intent to cultivate" I suppose.
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14330046 - 04/21/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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As soon as you think about making a cake to grow anything illegal.
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
#14330055 - 04/21/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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your cake is illegal when your spores germinate and become mycellium...
period.
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: ShroomyJohn]
#14330061 - 04/21/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
ShroomyJohn said: As soon as you think about making a cake to grow anything illegal.
Almost.
As soon as you take an overt act in furtherance of breaking the law. Ok to think about cakes, but don't buy BRF while doing so.
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Synocybin]
#14330062 - 04/21/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Synocybin said: your cake is illegal when your spores germinate and become mycellium...
period.
you see, this is what i figured.
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Earth Child]
#14330075 - 04/21/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Doc_T]
#14330105 - 04/21/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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so if you had all the supplies together, but no cake made, that could be intent to cultivate?
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Earth Child]
#14330113 - 04/21/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Psybe said: so if you had all the supplies together, but no cake made, that could be intent to cultivate?
if they can prove your cakes are being used to cultivate ILLEGAL mushrooms, yes.
but just thinking about the cake and buying supplies wouldn't be, arent there edibles that can be grown on PF cakes?
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Synocybin]
#14330157 - 04/21/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Synocybin said:
Quote:
Psybe said: so if you had all the supplies together, but no cake made, that could be intent to cultivate?
if they can prove your cakes are being used to cultivate ILLEGAL mushrooms, yes.
but just thinking about the cake and buying supplies wouldn't be, arent there edibles that can be grown on PF cakes?
even if you hade spore syringes of an active species?
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Earth Child]
#14330167 - 04/21/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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see theres where your problem lies..
more than likely then yea..
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Synocybin]
#14330177 - 04/21/11 09:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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sort of the same concept as you can have a san pedro cactus, but if you have powdered cactus, then it starts to cross a grey area of legality.
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Earth Child]
#14330182 - 04/21/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Psybe said: sort of the same concept as you can have a san pedro cactus, but if you have powdered cactus, then it starts to cross a grey area of legality.
in a sense...
but just dont do anything with those spores other than look at them under your microscope...
seriously..
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Synocybin]
#14330191 - 04/21/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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well of course i'll only use them for identification purposes. any other use would be illegal, duh!
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Earth Child]
#14330215 - 04/21/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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as soon as you inoculate.
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Earth Child]
#14330228 - 04/21/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Depends on your jurisdiction and the exact circumstances.
In most jurisdictions, only psilocybin and psilocin are scheduled/controlled. Psilocybin containing mushrooms are treated as carriers of a controlled substance and are not specifically controlled such as plants like Papaver somniferium, Cannabis sativa, etc.
Mycellium as long as it does not contain a controlled substance would not be considered illegal technically. All of the studies I have seen indicate that the mycellium some species such as Psilocybe cubensis do not usually contain psilocybin or psilocin until the hyphal knot stage. Other species such as Psilocybe galindoi, Psilocybe mexicana, and most woodloving species do produce psilocybin and psilocin before the hyphal knot stage.
Of course the apparent practice of some jurisdictions growing out cakes makes this rather irrelevant, but from a scientific/legal stand point that practice is extremely unprofessional and could be risky legally for the lab and the prosecutors case.
I'm not legally versed enough to speak on intent to cultivate, but better to be safe than sorry.
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Re: When does a cake become illegal? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#14330250 - 04/21/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know this if off topic, but could one set their cake outside to cool off, or is the risk of contamination too great?
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