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BoldAsLove
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Why are drugs illegal?
#14329434 - 04/21/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It might sound like a stupid question, but I think its valid. Sorry if this is in the wrong forum by the way.
But seriously, why are they illegal? Obviously there are drugs that are terrible for you and highly addictive(meth, heroin, etc.) and there are drugs that aren't so bad for you(weed, LSD, shrooms, etc.), yet they are all illegal. Here is my reasoning why all drugs should be fully legalized:
1) Prohibition does not reduce the demand, it increases it. This has been shown with the prohibition of alcohol. People who want to use these drugs will get these drugs and use them, regardless of the legality.
2) By making drugs illegal money is being funneled to illegal gangs. If all drugs were legal, gangs would lose most of their profit, and significantly more money would be available for law enforcement agencies.
3) There are many deaths from mistaken purities, dosages, substances, etc. These could all be controlled if there was government regulation of drugs.
Now don't get me wrong, I don't think people should do hard drugs that can be addictive and dangerous, but I feel that it should be their right to choose to do so. I also think that making drugs illegal is solving nothing and causing way more problems than solutions.
I've also noticed that the government doesn't criminalize a drug until it becomes popular and used by a huge amount of youth. I'm its happening right now with Salvia. Salvia has been used for quite a while, but only recreationally in small amounts. It wasn't until Salvia surged in popularity that the government decided to try and criminalize it. It seems they only target "fun" drugs, but that could also be because those are the only ones that are actually abused.
Hell, I can understand them making dangerous drugs illegal, but drugs like LSD and shrooms?! LSD has been proven to have virtually 0 addiction potential, is safe to use longterm, and is virtually impossible to OD on. And don't even get me started on weed being illegal, that is just downright wrong!
I know money and power, particularly from pharmaceutical companies plays a huge role here, but I feel that there has to be some other reasons too.
I realize that this might be a very naive view of the whole situation, but thats why I'm posting it here, to hopefully understand this a little bit better.
What are your opinions on this? Anyone have any insights?
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Celestial Traveler
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: BoldAsLove]
#14329459 - 04/21/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Trust me, this is the last place where you will need to convince people that drugs should be legal lol
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Dawks
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: BoldAsLove]
#14329473 - 04/21/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's quite simple really. It's not drugs that are made illegal, but states of mind.
There are many different states of mind, the only state of mind that is legal however, is that which focuses on the production and consumption of material goods. After all, we are simply the servants of those in power.
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nice1
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: BoldAsLove]
#14329501 - 04/21/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So they can sell you their pharmecuticals and keep you under control workin your 9-5.
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shroomybgood
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: nice1]
#14329510 - 04/21/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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We're all just the broken pieces of their well oiled machine!
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bholzer
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: Dawks]
#14329515 - 04/21/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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We ARE a society based on production. Anything that goes against that is looked down upon. They allow us one vice, alcohol. And the only reason it's allowed is because it's the only one that people know and aren't scared of (for the most part).
People are scared of drugs because they don't understand them. Most everyone is misinformed. I'm sure you've heard of Reefer Madness; the idea is the same. There's so much out there like that. The guy who took acid and thought he was a glass of OJ. If you take acid x times you're clinically insane. The only thing that will make people realize how safe some drugs are, is knowledge. It's finding a way to get that knowledge to the masses that is so difficult. The seed is so firmly planted in everyone's mind that drugs are so bad, and that's not something that is easy to change. I'll be so bold to say that it's similar to religion in that respect.
I'm one of the few people that will say that I believe almost all drugs should be legal. Of course that only scratches the surface, since there always need to be SOME drug laws in place, but for the most part, decriminalization would work wonders here in the U.S. and everywhere.
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: Dawks]
#14329518 - 04/21/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It'd be significantly harder to control the masses if drugs were legal or socially accepted. More people might actually stop and look at the bigger picture. This would be at the cost of productivity and especially in America, productivity is everything. Profits uber alles etc etc.
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ThePhilosophizer
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: nice1]
#14329519 - 04/21/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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nice1 said: So they can sell you their pharmecuticals and keep you under control workin your 9-5.
This. This vid illustrates the point very well
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Third i
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: Dawks]
#14329523 - 04/21/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe for those people that wanna quit drugs but can't. It leads to depression... Which leads to more drugs... And if the drugs don't kill you, you kill yourself from extreme depression.
I personally think drugs should be legal. In a way that limits people and helps them moderate so helps them quit. I don't know... The laws would be very complicated to make so that no one got hurt. So its easier to just make it illegal.
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bholzer
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: Third i]
#14329532 - 04/21/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Third i said: Maybe for those people that wanna quit drugs but can't. It leads to depression... Which leads to more drugs... And if the drugs don't kill you, you kill yourself from extreme depression.
I personally think drugs should be legal. In a way that limits people and helps them moderate so helps them quit. I don't know... The laws would be very complicated to make so that no one got hurt. So its easier to just make it illegal.
Smart dude right here. We're on the same wavelength.
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monkiman
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: nice1]
#14329552 - 04/21/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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nice1 said: So they can sell you their pharmecuticals and keep you under control workin your 9-5.
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Doc_T
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: nice1]
#14329560 - 04/21/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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nice1 said: keep you under control workin your 9-5.
Turn on, tune in, drop out does not lead to a robust GDP. It's that easy.
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Third i
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: bholzer]
#14329652 - 04/21/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Third i said: Maybe for those people that wanna quit drugs but can't. It leads to depression... Which leads to more drugs... And if the drugs don't kill you, you kill yourself from extreme depression.
I personally think drugs should be legal. In a way that limits people and helps them moderate so helps them quit. I don't know... The laws would be very complicated to make so that no one got hurt. So its easier to just make it illegal.
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bholzer said:
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Third i said: Maybe for those people that wanna quit drugs but can't. It leads to depression... Which leads to more drugs... And if the drugs don't kill you, you kill yourself from extreme depression.
I personally think drugs should be legal. In a way that limits people and helps them moderate so helps them quit. I don't know... The laws would be very complicated to make so that no one got hurt. So its easier to just make it illegal.
Smart dude right here. We're on the same wavelength.
Thanks. I really don't expect a lot of people to understand unless they have seen the bad side of drugs.
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speedy_r6
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: Third i]
#14329817 - 04/21/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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we kinda talked about something similar to this today in one of my classes. we were asking why weed is illegal, but alcohol and cigs are totally fine when they are way more destructive. finally the teacher just said "honestly, it is the governments way of fucking us, pardon my language. the government wants you to do things that are bad for you and will ultimately lead to you dying earlier. it costs less for the government to help pay for cancer treatment because of smoking than it does to pay your social security and all for 20 years."
he said some other stuff too, but i dont remember it exactly
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Doc_T
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: speedy_r6]
#14329890 - 04/21/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You are the government. You and I. We the People.
Get out and vote. Every time.
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blackhawk
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: Doc_T]
#14330207 - 04/21/11 09:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The day drugs like LSD and Shrooms are legal is the day i will believe in a God.
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w1llyw0nka
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: blackhawk]
#14330241 - 04/21/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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because the majority of people think they should be. government brainwashing.
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TheThirdEye
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: w1llyw0nka]
#14330342 - 04/21/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I totally agree with government brainwashing... But also many of the dumbass' out there ruin it for people.
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FleshCap
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: TheThirdEye]
#14330523 - 04/21/11 10:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The answer to this question can be neatly packaged in one word: POLITICS.
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psilocybinjunkie
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Re: Why are drugs illegal? [Re: FleshCap]
#14330566 - 04/21/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Because they were all legal once in our history, and the entire workforce and population became addicted, and unproductive. I watched a History Channel Documentary on it.
Some things should e illegal, but stuff like weed, and shrooms should be legal.You could argue cocaine I suppose, Heroine should be illegal though. That's just imo.
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