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Stalled grain jar, salvagable?
    #14329197 - 04/21/11 06:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hey All
Was waiting a little long for a pair of pint jars of WBS to colonize, they seemed to grow strong til about 50%.  Then they stalled out.  It was most definately due to low gas exchange.  It was my first grain jar try ever so I was a little paranoid, and only made one hole in the lids.  I also used a small section of makeup sponge as my inject/gas port/filters. It worked fine as a filter,  too good i guess. I will continue to use these for the sealing injection port, but Im making them considerably larger now and they are colonizing fine.  Still o% contams.

Anyways... my question.   
I put on gloves, opened the jars, washed off the uncolonized, slightly slimey seeds under gentle room temp water...
put the WBS cakes (no room for shakey)into a fresh freezer bag, and crumbled it as if to spawn. 

You think it will be okay?  I have no grain experience, like how it copes with stalls, crumbling.  Sort of learning as a go..

Pending regrowth or contamination, Im going to spawn this into a micro-mono to keep it away from the primary FCs.  Still paranoid now that this month oldgrain is exposed to air..

*EDIT*  The stalled grain was still moist, except one jar had a slight slime at the very bottom.  I beleive a very small section of grain had some bacteria.  There was a very faint odor at the bottom, as I sent the grain into a garbage bag.  This is why im concerned.


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Re: Stalled grain jar, salvagable? [Re: Jayslay]
    #14329277 - 04/21/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

slimy tells me bacteria.. bacteria tells me no good.... i predict a big bag of contaminated substrate.

i say start over from square 1.


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Re: Stalled grain jar, salvagable? [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14329306 - 04/21/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ya Im treating them as quarantined for now.  It was only two pints and a quart (Added sadly a quart to the list of stalls).  The quart is still sealed as per original (flawed) procedure.

Have since increased port diameter and used three or four, and the gas exchange  has helped alot.  I did a quart with three small ports and its about 50% done, after less then a week.  I shook it at 25%.  It makes me pleased :smile:


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Re: Stalled grain jar, salvagable? [Re: Jayslay]
    #14330660 - 04/21/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

stalling usually means something else has colinised what the mycelium hasnt. A clear sign is where the mycelium has stopped theres a solid edge like its ran up against an invisible wall. Easier to see in pf cakes.

If the jar has stalled, shake it, if the mycelium  hasnt recovered, its contaminated.

A make up sponge does not sound like a good filter.

Use polyfill, dont improvise on teks.


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