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OfflinePatlal
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Are you a car guy?
    #14327080 - 04/21/11 10:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Do you love cars? bikes? Basically anything that has a motor in it?

Are you a fan of big muscle cars and Lamboghinies?

You know the type.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Patlal]
    #14327106 - 04/21/11 10:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i like things with motors in them. not some much engines... i think engines, particularly internal combustion engines which use mined fuel sources, are so 20th century. we need to move on to more practical, less resource consuming, widely used, prime moving machines.

it sucks because i love driving and stuff, but the technology making the car move makes me cringe. if i find the time this summer i'm going to convert an old beater bike to electric.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Patlal]
    #14327127 - 04/21/11 10:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ah, the sweet sounds, like music to my ears.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: 4runner]
    #14327147 - 04/21/11 10:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I just helped my brother build a K24a2 motor for his civic hatch.

Bitch comes out of second gear at 80mph.
I'll post some pics/vids soon :laugh:


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: iLuvAF]
    #14327159 - 04/21/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I like F1 cars and their engines.  They Rev out to 18,000 RPM, but they cost in the millions.  0-150mph in 2.5 seconds though, they make lamborghinis and muscle cars seem like a stand still.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Maverick]
    #14327178 - 04/21/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i dont really like cars but Top Gear is one of my fav shows on tv.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Patlal]
    #14327247 - 04/21/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I finally got a "real" car when I moved from my Honda civic to a 2011 accord coupe.  Obviously,the ride and appeal of the car has increased, but I'm not sure it was worth the extra 8-10k in sticker price.  I think this once and for all qualifies me as a "non-car" guy. 

I'll just never be the type to spend more on mods than the actual car.  I don't see the appeal in making a trash can go fast.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: badchad]
    #14327258 - 04/21/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I finally got a "real" car when I moved from my Honda civic to a 2011 accord coupe.  Obviously,the ride and appeal of the car has increased, but I'm not sure it was worth the extra 8-10k in sticker price.  I think this once and for all qualifies me as a "non-car" guy. 

I'll just never be the type to spend more on mods than the actual car.  I don't see the appeal in making a trash can go fast.




Probably would have saved a little to grab like the '06 coupe.  I know they still pack like 225HP+ in some of the v6 models.  I'm just not a Honda fan so I haven't kept up hehe.

*hugs his Nissan Pathfinder*  I like trucks and SUVs more.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Maverick]
    #14327306 - 04/21/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What do you guys enjoy out of your cars?

I tried to get into cars and mechanics but I just didnt find any appeal to it.

What is it for you?


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Maverick]
    #14327317 - 04/21/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I like trucks and SUVs more.



same but not modern ones. they all look the same.

from the "what is your dream car" thread a few weeks ago..

International Scout (1960s)


Land Rover Defender (early 90s)


Land Rover 109 (1960s)


i drive a jeep right now.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Patlal]
    #14327369 - 04/21/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Patlal said:
What do you guys enjoy out of your cars?




The ability to camp just about anywhere,


and be able to drive as far as I want to and not worry.

(not my car, just same make/model)


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: 4runner]
    #14328634 - 04/21/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Patlal said:
What do you guys enjoy out of your cars?

I tried to get into cars and mechanics but I just didnt find any appeal to it.

What is it for you?




I personally just find them sexy as hell. I love going to car shows and nothing compares to the feeling of cruisen in a tricked out whip.

The actual working on them is not something I enjoy at all but the results are often worth it.
For instance this is my previous truck, lowering it was a huge pain in the ass but damn she looks good afterwards  and the satisfaction of having done it myself makes it worth it.





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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Patlal]
    #14328961 - 04/21/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Do you love cars? bikes? Basically anything that has a motor in it?

Are you a fan of big muscle cars and Lamboghinies?

You know the type.





I used to be into cars much more when I was younger. When I was about 10 to 18 years old I was really into cars, engines, and auto racing. None of that pansy nascar shit though...F1, Rally, and world super bike, it still blows my mind that those 3 forms of racing aren't as big in the US as they are through the rest of the world.



I used to know damn near every bit of specifications for damn near every car/truck on the road. I Rebuilt my first engine when I was 14. And from 13 to 19 I was racing Shifter karts , I was aspiring to be in some form of auto racing somewhat as a career. Kart racing is the first stepping stone for almost every career racer out there, and I was on my way until my Kart & gear was stolen ($10k+ gone) and had no funds to replace it and get back into racing :sad: ....I'm still incredibly bummed about that until this day.



Being that young and in a kart that will go from 0 to 60mph in 3 seconds, hit 100mph easily, and cornering capabilities of over 3gs....It was a fucking blast :crazy: . One day I will get back into it on the amateur and regional level, but my dreams of being a "race car driver" are done for :nonono: .




When it comes to cars though...I like handling performance over power, small light nimble cars with just enough power to make em' scoot.



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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: lilbluechev]
    #14329031 - 04/21/11 05:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yea im a just a wee bit of a car guy, worked in the industry for a while, transmissions and body work, now im doing machining.

Spent like $20,000 on my 88 suburban, got a fully built tranny & posi diff, wild as hell 383 stroker in it. I think I actually realized i like the thing better taken apart then running, is there something wrong with me?

Anyways heres a sexy video you all should appreciate.



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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: iLuvAF]
    #14329179 - 04/21/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I just helped my brother build a K24a2 motor for his civic hatch.

Bitch comes out of second gear at 80mph.
I'll post some pics/vids soon :laugh:




Please do! That thing sounds like a beast!


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Patlal]
    #14329268 - 04/21/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Dream cars for me right now would be a Lexus sc430, and/or a "72 SS Chevelle with a 427. My first car was a 68 Impala custom 2 door steel blue interior and body,327 V8 quadra jet 4 barrel with the round tail lights. Next was a 73 Galaxie 500 390 V8 quadra jet 4 barrel, and that weird purple color 4 door, then a 73 Chevy Nova 350 V8 quadra jet 4 barrel 2 door 2 tone khaki and white top. My mom had a 76 Malibu 350 V8, and a 78 Caprice classic wtih the 454 V8.  *SIGH*

So yes, I am a "car guy". :grin:


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Patlal]
    #14329293 - 04/21/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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What do you guys enjoy out of your cars?

I tried to get into cars and mechanics but I just didnt find any appeal to it.

What is it for you?




Aesthetically its the body lines, the curves, the way the paint glitters, the way everything is so well engineered that all the parts fit together in a near-seamless fashion to create a moving work of art.

Cars are a feast for the senses. The power that pushes you back in your seat when you stomp the gas pedal. The growl of the exhaust steadily increasing with the rise of RPMs. The squalling of the tires as they fight for traction. The perfect *snick* of the gearshift as it slots into gear. The smell of burnt rubber hanging in the air, the marks on the pavement that may as well be a sign saying "Ima Trooper was here".

Its the way you impose your will on a piece of machinery specifically designed for it. When you feel and see and smell all this, sometimes the car becomes a more powerful extension of yourself. Its not just "tires burning" or "suspension straining", its MY tires burning, MY suspension straining. There are moments of perfection in it that transcend time.

I waxed a bit poetic about it, but thats basically it. When your vehicle becomes an extension of you, its a beautiful, intoxicating feeling of power.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #14329305 - 04/21/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I feel as though a car is an appendage. :shrug:


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #14329326 - 04/21/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I see a 350z or a shelby cobra and pretty much melt. God damn it dad what did you do to me.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #14329341 - 04/21/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I feel as though a car is an appendage. :shrug:




Lol and you're all about yourself some appendages. :wink:


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #14329350 - 04/21/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I looooooves me an appendangesseses!


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #14329421 - 04/21/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This is my G8 when I was on the tail of the dragon. It was supercharged 500 rwhp and had suspension work done. I ran an 11.8 with the stock tires. It was crazy fast and sounded so mean. I sold it to finance my move to CA and I miss it so much.



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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: dummy]
    #14329423 - 04/21/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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dummy said:
i like things with motors in them. not some much engines... i think engines, particularly internal combustion engines which use mined fuel sources, are so 20th century. we need to move on to more practical, less resource consuming, widely used, prime moving machines.

it sucks because i love driving and stuff, but the technology making the car move makes me cringe. if i find the time this summer i'm going to convert an old beater bike to electric.





there's a very serious dark side to the 'green' technology that no one
wants to think about, most electric production comes from fossil fuels
like natural gas, oil and coal, solar energy isnt efficient enough at the
current time and it's one of the worst sources of pollution in it's
production, wind energy is a bit cleaner in production of the unit but you
still have to strip mine for that copper and you still have a lot of
hazardous chemicals used to produce the devices. hydro electric, it sounds
so clean and it almost is until you realize just how many ecosystems the
current dams have destroyed, not to mention the displacement of man and
animals and regardless of what 'alternative' energy source you decide on,
you have to develop a way of storing it when you're unable to produce,
batteries being the answer but what happens when it comes time to dispose
of those batteries, sure they are recyclable but even then you're dealing
with the lifespan that limits the number of times they can be


yeah... I dont buy into this crap about clean energy or green vehicles


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: shroomincali]
    #14329426 - 04/21/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

YES anyone play Need for Speed Hot Pursuit on PS3? :pm:


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #14329429 - 04/21/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I feel as though a car is an appendage. :shrug:




Lol and you're all about yourself some appendages. :wink:




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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Patlal]
    #14329452 - 04/21/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Patlal said:
I tried to get into cars and mechanics but I just didnt find any appeal to it.





I've been over 200mph once, I've traveled at 178mph on the oval, I've been at
road atlanta with a 375hp fiat x/19 but by far the most exciting and fun I've
had was running at 115mph sideways on mud and traveling at 80mph on trails
through the woods in an old RX7... I wasnt driving and my ass was grabbing on
to the upholstery the whole time... that car went places jeeps didnt make it


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: lilbluechev]
    #14329533 - 04/21/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Patlal said:
What do you guys enjoy out of your cars?

I tried to get into cars and mechanics but I just didnt find any appeal to it.

What is it for you?




I personally just find them sexy as hell. I love going to car shows and nothing compares to the feeling of cruisen in a tricked out whip.

The actual working on them is not something I enjoy at all but the results are often worth it.
For instance this is my previous truck, lowering it was a huge pain in the ass but damn she looks good afterwards  and the satisfaction of having done it myself makes it worth it.









I have a thing against lowered trucks.  What's the point in ruining something that's made for hauling/4x4 and such?  Well I guess yeah if you're buying one of those chevy xtreme 4banger trucks with FWD....

No offense, it's just how did you lower it?  Did you cut into the frame to lower the leafsprings etc?  I like some cars lowered, it helps with aerodynamics and such and makes sense but not with a truck...  You'd get stuck the second you drove around my area.





I will say nice paint job though.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Patlal]
    #14329550 - 04/21/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've really been out of the loop as far as what's going on in automotive world lately, like I mention in my prior post I used to be up on every little spec of every car out there whether I was interested in it or not...



But I'm keeping my eye on the new car being co-developed by Toyota and Subaru...The Toyota FT-86/Subaru 216a/Scion FR-S.


The power plant is a NA 2.0 boxer engine from Subaru putting out around 200hp, though Subaru said a turbo-charged version is quite possibly going to be put into production down the line. Rear wheel drive :thumbup: .


IMO it's a pretty sharp looking car :shrug: .


Here's the Toyota Version...














And I :heart: that purr from boxer engines :drooling:




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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: openmind]
    #14329696 - 04/21/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Im restoring a 1965 vw bug right now, I wish I could just pay someone to do all the work but thats never going to happen. So I do everything myself, it sucks while you are in the middle of it but I know after every things done and I get done with that final stroke of buffing compound on my new paint job I sprayed. I will feel good about doing all the body work all the rust repair etc..


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: pmb]
    #14329699 - 04/21/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My cousin owns a business restoring old VW bugs and busses pmb.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Maverick]
    #14329710 - 04/21/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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My cousin owns a business restoring old VW bugs and busses pmb.





Nice, I'm such a noob at everything. I have to learn how to use all kinds of tools before I can even work on my car. I just bought a mig welder today so I can replace the floor pans.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: pmb]
    #14330186 - 04/21/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Im restoring a 1965 vw bug right now, I wish I could just pay someone to do all the work but thats never going to happen. So I do everything myself






lol... some years ago a guy hit me up to help him move X-Ray machines, his
business was repairing, reconditioning and resale, mostly to the east
european market. anyway, the guy had a '71 volvo P1800 he was restoring, it
was originally 2 totaled cars that were cut and rejoined, and the wiring had
been spliced back together wrong, they connected red to red, blue to blue,
green to green, etc... when you turned on the wipers the horn sounded, hit
the horn for the headlights to come on... they wiring was all screwed but for
someone that could take a schematic that had nothing but red wires in the
machine and rebuild it, he couldnt do the car

it was a bitch, a 1 piece wiring harness with fuel injection, all the wires for the fuel injection were white...



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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14330202 - 04/21/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Lol that sounds like a project from hell. Wiring borders on dark magic for me, I don't know much about it and I'm confused and scared, lol. I am getting more experience all the time though, mostly because I keep having to keep my cars running, haha.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #14330225 - 04/21/11 09:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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My cousin owns a business restoring old VW bugs and busses pmb.




A person I know really well built the engine for this bug.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: 4runner]
    #14330237 - 04/21/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That sounds pretty badass.  I love how light these cars are, build a modest 120hp engine and you have yourself a pretty quick car. Pretty cheap parts too.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: openmind]
    #14330243 - 04/21/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i like things with motors in them. not some much engines... i think engines, particularly internal combustion engines which use mined fuel sources, are so 20th century. we need to move on to more practical, less resource consuming, widely used, prime moving machines.

it sucks because i love driving and stuff, but the technology making the car move makes me cringe. if i find the time this summer i'm going to convert an old beater bike to electric.





there's a very serious dark side to the 'green' technology that no one
wants to think about, most electric production comes from fossil fuels
like natural gas, oil and coal, solar energy isnt efficient enough at the
current time and it's one of the worst sources of pollution in it's
production, wind energy is a bit cleaner in production of the unit but you
still have to strip mine for that copper and you still have a lot of
hazardous chemicals used to produce the devices. hydro electric, it sounds
so clean and it almost is until you realize just how many ecosystems the
current dams have destroyed, not to mention the displacement of man and
animals and regardless of what 'alternative' energy source you decide on,
you have to develop a way of storing it when you're unable to produce,
batteries being the answer but what happens when it comes time to dispose
of those batteries, sure they are recyclable but even then you're dealing
with the lifespan that limits the number of times they can be


yeah... I dont buy into this crap about clean energy or green vehicles





not too mention the machines that have to mine the copper and all of what goes into making them. all the steel, circuit boards (e-waste is a major issue), all the polymers used (see pacific ocean garbage patch,) the combusted fuel, the grease, etc. or the food that it took to feed the workers (fertilized with petroleum products, bug repellented with petroleum products, harvested with petroleum products, more steel, etc), or all the gas they produce (and their kids), all their garbage, all the shit that went into making their home, and powering them, and omg the list continues on.

the way we humans do shit is fucked up, true, but what you've just said is ridiculous pris. lol. i almost liked you. the fact of the matter is fossil fuels aren't sustainable and you can make electricity out of just about any physical differential you can find. the former is quickly becoming obsolete, while the latter is incredibly diverse and simple.

sure, the technology behind electromagnetism isn't exactly 'clean' or 'green' haha... but thats not really what i'm looking to get out of an ev. i never once said that i was, that was a major assumption on your part. you spewed quick a bit of bs; for instance there are many way to harness solar energy, though you made the implication that the solar cell is the only way. one example would be a parabolic array of mirrors to concentrate sun light onto a steam engine. or those fancy new solar towers which are basically a large scale version of the mirror array.

it isn't about 'clean energy vihecles' and their infingement on your right to do whatever the fuck else. i mean it's almost like you seemed threatened by the whole concept. truthfully, i feel jipped because i grew up loving cars. drooling over all the cool shit i'll get to drive when i'm older. but now that i'm older, the times have changed, and it's clear to me that internal combustion engines are not only unsustainable but need to be quickly phased out. they will be obsolete in the near future and it's just that simple.


ps. gasoline is a money making scheme you trick.
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I've really been out of the loop as far as what's going on in automotive world lately, like I mention in my prior post I used to be up on every little spec of every car out there whether I was interested in it or not...



But I'm keeping my eye on the new car being co-developed by Toyota and Subaru...The Toyota FT-86/Subaru 216a/Scion FR-S.


The power plant is a NA 2.0 boxer engine from Subaru putting out around 200hp, though Subaru said a turbo-charged version is quite possibly going to be put into production down the line. Rear wheel drive :thumbup: .


IMO it's a pretty sharp looking car :shrug: .


Here's the Toyota Version...














And I :heart: that purr from boxer engines :drooling:




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this is bad ass! too bad it's not awd.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #14330252 - 04/21/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

wiring can be a nightmare, since it was a resto I used all the original
connectors, I disassembled them, pulled the wire from the contacts and
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    #14330282 - 04/21/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I have a thing against lowered trucks.  What's the point in ruining something that's made for hauling/4x4 and such?  Well I guess yeah if you're buying one of those chevy xtreme 4banger trucks with FWD....

No offense, it's just how did you lower it?  Did you cut into the frame to lower the leafsprings etc?  I like some cars lowered, it helps with aerodynamics and such and makes sense but not with a truck...  You'd get stuck the second you drove around my area.





I will say nice paint job though.




Yeah the rear frame was notched and where the axle is mounted under the leafs in the photo, is flipped to sit ontop of the leafs giving about 7" of drop


And yes it is often critisized for same reasons youv listed, your opinion is shared by many others lol
But lowering it doesn't really stop it from being able to haul things other than trailers and it frequently did get used to haul stuff.

I just love the look, Form > function imo. Its a 2wd so really no different than lowering a car.  :shrug:


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: lilbluechev]
    #14330316 - 04/21/11 10:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I knew a guy with a duallie that he dropped, a chevy 3500, he grafted a z-28
cowl into the hood and made it functioning, it was a badass truck, he drove
it daily and used it for hauling carpet, since it was a street vehicle
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    #14330371 - 04/21/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I use to be into cars alot when I was younger..mostly imports.Owned a 91 Mitsubishi GSX that would run mid 11s with race gas.Missed that little rocket haha.


That was my 91 GSX and 98 GSX.

I'm getting a new car soon("new"er)..looking at a few older CTSVs and a got my eye on this 05 S4...need a v8 this time.

Oh and I paint cara for a living so I guess I'd classify ad a car dude...but def don't obsess about it like a typical car nut lol.


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    #14330372 - 04/21/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

that new toyota would look cool with an old school celica like front end. make it kind of boxy but still modern like GM. it's a cool car but kind of looks like an electric razor.

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    #14330384 - 04/21/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

^^ Sweet looking ride right there


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im hoping to get one of these soon , and tuning it up.


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    #14330401 - 04/21/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

nice! my buddy is planning to, in some time, through an odessy motor into his mr2.


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    #14330405 - 04/21/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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that new toyota would look cool with an old school celica like front end. make it kind of boxy but still modern like GM. it's a cool car but kind of looks like an electric razor.

ps i edit my last post in case anyone missed it.







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    #14330508 - 04/21/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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im hoping to get one of these soon , and tuning it up.




Hell yeah, MR2's are teh sex!

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Aaaaaand GODDAMN. Thats a nice car.


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    #14331082 - 04/22/11 12:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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you spewed quick a bit of bs; for instance there are many way to harness solar energy, though you made the implication that the solar cell is the only way. one example would be a parabolic array of mirrors to concentrate sun light onto a steam engine. or those fancy new solar towers which are basically a large scale version of the mirror array.





and the production of perfect mirrors, thousands of them, then the circuit
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    #14331105 - 04/22/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

it hardly has to be perfect but what is your point? you assumed that i'm some environment freak and tell me how ungreen shit is. the point i make is that everything we do is an incredibly dirty process for many reasons. furthermore the fuel source that you're in bed with should be obsolete and this point and would be if it wasn't so profitable.


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    #14331177 - 04/22/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

obsolescence by legislation, we still have 200 more years of petrol


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    #14331209 - 04/22/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yes I am, I understand & build engines


Raised under a mechanical engineer who likes to do everything with knowledge, precision & understanding. Thankful for the opportunity. That picture is my 318/390 stroker. It's a beast & now sits in my jeep GC. Should be up and running in a week or less depending on a few minor parts via shipping. So stoked.


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    #14331214 - 04/22/11 12:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Doubtful, with current consumption rates and our ever growing power hungry population there will be no 200 years more of natural petrol, maybe a 100. We will be using shit like bio fuels for a very long time, half a millenia easily.


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    #14331217 - 04/22/11 12:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

similar background only my father was a mechanic and my mother was a stock car driver... imagine the fun


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    #14331239 - 04/22/11 12:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Doubtful, with current consumption rates and our ever growing power hungry population there will be no 200 years more of natural petrol, maybe a 100. We will be using shit like bio fuels for a very long time, half a millenia easily.





biofuels... another serious problem people have yet to address and the greenies think is wonderful


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    #14331265 - 04/22/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Love it man. Next project is mine & my dads 1000hp hot rod build hah. 512ci ford big block with a turbo custom built as a stock car turbo from some prestigious ford racing turbo company. powerrr


Here's the car we just got, Henry J is the name by a company in 69 called kaiser. Check out those rear slicks hah



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    #14331276 - 04/22/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Im not talking that ridiculous corn fuel horseshit, A group has recently figured out that if you slightly modify green algea so you an produce biofuel with it. At the speed that it grows and the mass that it produces you could easily produce 50% of the USA's energy demands in a surface area have the size of pennylvania.


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    #14331283 - 04/22/11 01:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nuclear energy. Solved.


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    #14331307 - 04/22/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:facepalm:

Were it so easy.


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    #14331330 - 04/22/11 01:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Love it man. Next project is mine & my dads 1000hp hot rod build hah. 512ci ford big block with a turbo custom built as a stock car turbo from some prestigious ford racing turbo company. powerrr




my last engine, 1100hp, naturally aspirated, it's an olds DRCE block for the foundation




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Here's the car we just got, Henry J is the name by a company in 69 called kaiser. Check out those rear slicks hah






I'm familiar with the Kaisers, I restored one of the kaiser jeeps for my
last employer, fucking indestructible, the predecessor to the humvee, that henry J will be a sweet ride, is he going as a retro build?


my next resto project, a 51 ford panel, it's complete other than a headlight ring and the air cleaner, there's no rust through anywhere
and only one piece of glass that has to be replaced



my next engine build will be a 350 mercruiser for my boat,
I'm shooting for a modest 450hp



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    #14331359 - 04/22/11 01:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

DOPE. Yeah we chose the henry J because of its light weight & it can fit the 512 in the engine bay and its a kick ass car. Retro build? well we have all the glass, trim, bumpers, etc we're going to get it back in line but were painting its blue with mopar orange moons and stars all over it ahah.

I like that 51 and yeah major ups to cars without rust and hopefully the glass won't be too hard. Light bezels can be annoying sometimes. That front end has mad style

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    #14331386 - 04/22/11 01:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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and the production of perfect mirrors, thousands of them, then the circuit
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motor arrays at each mirror, etc... you may also be interested to know
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it hardly has to be perfect but what is your point? you assumed that i'm some environment freak and tell me how ungreen shit is. the point i make is that everything we do is an incredibly dirty process for many reasons. furthermore the fuel source that you're in bed with should be obsolete and this point and would be if it wasn't so profitable.



If it's any consolation to you bickering kids, photo-voltaic and solar heat-based electricity generation appear to be growing towards each other. Let me point out a few interesting things:
- The solar tower concept (a field of mirrors pointed at a single point high up in a tower to collect the energy in the form of heat) often uses liquid sodium for the primary coolant loop. The sodium is (simply put) run through a steam generator that drives a turbine, making the concept very similar to any other gas, coal, bio-mass or nuclear powered power station. Due to the use of a steam turbine, the theoretical limit to efficiency should be somewhere between 35% and 45% of the energy collected at the tower, depending on the steam cycle used. Perfect mirrors are by no means a necessity, although the more perfect they are, the better the focus and therefore efficiency of the first half of the process: collecting the light and directing it at the tower. The big issue with this type of plant, in my opinion, is not so much the manufacturing of the mirrors, but keeping them clean. It's one of the reasons why it'll be challenging to build and maintain this type of plant in remote but sunny desert areas. Note that essentially, photovoltaic has the same drawback.
- Photovoltaic generation currently tops off at some 25%, and somewhere between 15-20% for current commercial applications. The huge drawback is the manufacturing cost of solar panels, and in particular the fact (again, my opinion) that it is rather energy-intensive and involves the use of some nasty chemicals. I'm not sure what the theoretical limits to efficiency of photovoltaic generation are, but I believe there is ample headroom there. It should easily surpass the 45% maxmaxmax efficiency of solar-heat-steam concepts.
- Lately, the essence of the two paradigms have been combined in some concepts: first concentrate the light in a spot, and then use an (efficient) photovoltaic surface to convert the light into electricity. This potentially reduces the costs of the photovoltaic cells, you need a smaller surface, and in the future, with more efficient cells, it could overcome the efficiency limit of the steam solar tower concept.

As to energy storage: I think hydrogen isn't as bad is it may seem. The big challenge will be to get people and businesses to adopt the new infrastructure, which is subject to network externalities: it only becomes interesting if many users are already present. But once it takes off, it'll be unstoppable.

As to cars: I'm with frith here. I like Top Gear. And I like cars and the automotive industry from a scientific viewpoint, but that's about it. I commute by train (that's how I keep up with the Shroomery nowadays; free internet on board the train) and I really like it that way.


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    #14331395 - 04/22/11 01:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Retro build?




old style hotrod



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I like that 51 and yeah major ups to cars without rust and hopefully the glass won't be too hard. Light bezels can be annoying sometimes. That front end has mad style





I can cut and form the glass myself and send it to be tempered and specify
they not etch the logo into it, any other glass like the front and rear I
can cut from laminated as a direct replacement, all the rubber, the bright
work and all that are easy to find aftermarket, I'm doing a concours
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    #14332948 - 04/22/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

cars are easily converted to electric, as well as motorcycles. many of the on board systems such as breaking, signaling, suspension, and transmission can be reused to accepted a motor's rotor. i may convert a beater bike this summer, and when i get some money i'll covert a car. thats the beauty of switching between sources of fuel, the machinery can basically stay the same. and with hundreds of millions of cars out there, this is going to be big business.

i don't know how many years of crude are left around the world, but i'm not saying it should become obsolete soon because it's depleted. i'm saying it should become technically obsolete in our lifetimes because it's a silly, 20th century, fuel source. its way too complicated at every step and it's only competitive edge is the large infrastructure based on it and it's energy density. but we should just keep whats left of it to make polymers and all the other shit we make out of it.

seriously think about it;

crude goes from underground somewhere, to discovered (whether on accident or with very fancy sonar? equipment), to mined (i won't go into the complexities here, but it's understood), to processed (know anything about crude oil refining), to delivered (the oil distribution infrastructure is a monster of epic proportion; impressive but kind of silly with respect to efficiency and scale), and then it's all poured in the gas tank of a machine thats almost as complicated as the whole process that took to fill it up.

engines are kind of cool in a lot of ways. but their complexity is almost laughable. 100's of fucking moving parts to perform one very simple task, and that is deliver power to the transmition. an electric motor has a grand total of one moving part, the rotor, which can be attached to some wheels through a differential or a geared transmittion. delivers all the torque up front, roughly 5 times less expensive to fuel, and at least two times as efficient.

if you're that in love with your gasoline, simply put, you're a trick and gasoline is the bitch some corp is pimpin out to you. does it feel good?


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    #14333031 - 04/22/11 12:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm in love with cars, and yes, it feels good. I try to get the most MPG I can, but at the end of the day its not about how much gas I've burned, or hydrocarbons I've released, or dolphins I've murdered, but how much I've enjoyed burning gas, releasing hydrocarbons, and murdering dolphins.

This is a thread about cars and the people who love them, you're making it into electric vs. fossil fuels. :crankdre:


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    #14333043 - 04/22/11 12:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

but still in the context of automobiles. and i'm trying to make it about deignorancing fools. because we all know people kind of need a push in the right direction sometimes.



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    #14333069 - 04/22/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think "car guys" will give up fossil fuels without a fight anyway. No matter how fast, good looking, or excellent the handling of an electric car, its just not the same, and never will be.


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    #14333080 - 04/22/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah... i understand. like i said in an earlier post; i feel jipped living in a time like this since i grew up drooling over subaru boxers, honda vtecs, and 6 cyl german sex. but after studying engineering for a few years i understand what the 'right' thing is.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: dummy]
    #14333109 - 04/22/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well, until there is an affordable electric car that can take me over a thousand miles and can recharge in a short period of time that wont require me to swap out all the batteries every 5 to ten years that cause there own share of environmental damage and does not look like this


electric can go fuck off.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: dummy]
    #14333119 - 04/22/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

speaking of which, i really hope s4 and m3 revert back to 6 bangers.



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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: 4runner]
    #14333124 - 04/22/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

gasoline won't even take you over a 1000 mi hahahha. are you alive right now? high expectations maybe? :shrug:


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: dummy]
    #14333134 - 04/22/11 12:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i realize your entitlement to gasoline fed internal combustion engines may induce some strong emotions. but is that really worth being too stubborn to not do stupid shit over. iono...


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: dummy]
    #14333157 - 04/22/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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gasoline won't even take you over a 1000 mi hahahha. are you alive right now? high expectations maybe? :shrug:




No but it only takes a few minutes to refuel, unlike electric.

And I was thinking in an odd way, I could handle a 500 mile range if it only took 30 minutes to recharge.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: 4runner]
    #14333171 - 04/22/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah i know what you mean. recharge times are impracticable at this point unless you have a specific schedule that it happens to work great with. such as you recharge during your 8 hour work or sleep shift. they'd be inner city things until the tech gets better. had they researched batteries instead of engines we'd have nice batteries today. but at least we have some pretty nice engines.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: 4runner]
    #14333191 - 04/22/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's not the Electric motors that are the problem, It's the batteries. You do know that all these LiPo batterys only have a life of about 500 recharge/discharge cycles. What is going to happen to all these wonderful electric cars when the batteries die?

But back onto the topic, I like to think of myself as a car guy, I drive a 1991 Toyota Mr2 Turbo. That thing is a downright blast to drive and can take a beating like no other car I have seen. :bigyesnod:


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: dummy]
    #14333240 - 04/22/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i realize your entitlement to gasoline fed internal combustion engines may induce some strong emotions. but is that really worth being too stubborn to not do stupid shit over. iono...




Eh, I think it's more to do with my car cost me less than $6,000, I can haul things in it, I can go places that no gasoline car can go, and the cheapest decent electric car is still in the $20,000 used with crappy old batteries.

If you want to buy me an electric car, I'd love to give up driving my pathfinder as a regular daily driving vehicle, but you still can't beat the performance of petrol when it comes to getting stuck on rocks and in mud.


Oh, and in the future, 'batteries' will be self-contained power producing modules with fuel that gets used and spent in a much more complex fashion than a standard alkaline today.  They'd be more like mini-powerplants rather than just a storage of charge.  That's what I'm hoping :3

Who knows how they'll manage it.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: sjfrockerdude]
    #14333257 - 04/22/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

you're right. i guess li is recyclable. i don't know too much about batteries yet.

this thread needs MOAR!! MOAR!! MOAR PHOTOS!

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    #14333277 - 04/22/11 01:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)




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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: 4runner]
    #14333288 - 04/22/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Well, until there is an affordable electric car that can take me over a thousand miles and can recharge in a short period of time that wont require me to swap out all the batteries every 5 to ten years that cause there own share of environmental damage and does not look like this


electric can go fuck off.




The batteries can be sent to get recycled and have the unreuseable components disposed of and with a swap needed only once ever 5-7 years and I cant see any difference between that then all the parts you end up replacing over the years on a gas car, and once the market grows substantially technology would advance and production costs would be slashed making the shit even cheaper.



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    #14333289 - 04/22/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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:gethigh:





Here's a real conversation between me and a kid with a lowered car.

"Dude watch out for the giant r.... Uh there's a dent in your floorboard."

True story, there was a giant fucking dent shoved into where my foot was supposed to be when he hit the rock, and it tore up his undercarriage and tie rods/control arm for that side of the car.  But then again I do live in granite mountain country.  Oh, it ripped some his spark rods off too, made a loud clunk when it came out but surprisingly didn't jam through anything.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Maverick]
    #14333294 - 04/22/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Lol you crack me up with your pathfinder have you got that thing stuck as fuck yet?


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Dobie]
    #14333305 - 04/22/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've taken that thing so many places, we've taken it places that people on ATVs stopped to watch to see if I would get stuck.  I've gotten it to the point where we've stacked rocks under the tires and in front progressively larger to crawl over things that were too high for the front end to initially crawl.  You should see the running boards, they're all dented and bent as fuck.  Good thing they're on there though, I can rock the thing on them without damaging the body.


Nothing like knowing you have the explosive expansion of combusting gas to help drag you through the mud and muck.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Maverick]
    #14333353 - 04/22/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My friend had a Nissan pickup that we beat the living hell outta it, next time you come up here I will some ya some real shit lol there is a trail the goes from where we camped at that takes ya to one of the huge reservoirs up here its pretty gnarly you gotta cross a creek pivot off trees and shit lol


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Dobie]
    #14333368 - 04/22/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Everything we've tracked through might as well have been pathed road compared to what the sierras are offering.  You best be showing something truly gnar.  No getting scared over a little mud!




Oh, and about mud and water...
Wouldn't the electric car short the fuck out?


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Maverick]
    #14333385 - 04/22/11 01:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

We just traveled main roads I didn't want you to take your pathfinder and bash it up lol, Just bring a highlift and a comealong for when you get stuck lol


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Dobie]
    #14333405 - 04/22/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The pathfinder will go anywhere jeeps and toyotas will go.  Fucker's a lot more sturdy than you could imagine.  We used it to get a few yota's unstuck from snow banks.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Maverick]
    #14333416 - 04/22/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

nissian does good things too











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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Maverick]
    #14333423 - 04/22/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well let the knee heal up and we will have to plan a shindig up in these parts of the woods


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Dobie]
    #14333445 - 04/22/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I'm down for it.  It'll probably be later this summer, I have to get through physical therapy and the like for the ACL.


Hey Dummy, the fuel economy on the R34 is really shit.  You probably have the same fuel economy out of a 7.1L diesel truck.  12-14mpg.


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Maverick]
    #14333501 - 04/22/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The cool thing about diesels is that you can pump em up and they actually get better mileage


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Re: Are you a car guy? [Re: Maverick]
    #14334623 - 04/22/11 06:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The pathfinder will go anywhere jeeps and toyotas will go.  Fucker's a lot more sturdy than you could imagine.  We used it to get a few yota's unstuck from snow banks.




Oh for sure, it's all in how the trucks are set up. I love all the smaller suv's, jeeps, fj's, 4runner, pathfinders, just no broncos.


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