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LC amount in PFtek jars
    #14326356 - 04/21/11 04:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hey everyone, I just wanted to ask...what's the proper amount of LC to inject into each of the 4 holes in a brf/verm jar? Jars are 1/2 pint, btw.


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: thepreciouslamb]
    #14326399 - 04/21/11 05:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Zero, LC sucks.

But if you choose to use it, dribble in enough to run down the side of the glass.


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: thepreciouslamb]
    #14326400 - 04/21/11 05:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

1/4 per hole 1 per jar


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: Doc_T]
    #14326523 - 04/21/11 06:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Why do u think LC sucks? I've read alot of positive things about it.


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: Doc_T]
    #14326541 - 04/21/11 06:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Zero, LC sucks.

But if you choose to use it, dribble in enough to run down the side of the glass.




Why does LC suck Doc and how do you mass produce, g2g?


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: thepreciouslamb]
    #14326603 - 04/21/11 06:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Why do u think LC sucks? I've read alot of positive things about it.





ive used them successfully but i still dont like them.

You never kknow what you have until you use the LC on a substrate. Molds wont sporolate in a liquid culture. So it may look like a healthy LC, until you inoculate a substrate.


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: veda_sticks]
    #14326626 - 04/21/11 07:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I never had contams with LC, but the downside is that it is multispore.:shrug:


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: Luger0815]
    #14326657 - 04/21/11 07:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Starting LC from spores is always sketchy. Grain LC is a safer alternative.


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: Doc_T]
    #14326754 - 04/21/11 08:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Doc's kidding.  He loves LC.

Use LC just like you would a regular spore syringe.  However, instead of noc'ing up a bunch of jars at once, do a couple of test jars, wait a week to make sure they don't get contaminated, and then noc up the rest of them.


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
    #14326775 - 04/21/11 08:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:facepalm:

LC->grain->g2g

But really, just avoid the failure from the start. LC is a bad path to tread.


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: thepreciouslamb]
    #14326785 - 04/21/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Why do u think LC sucks? I've read alot of positive things about it.




Because you're reading posts from noobs without a clue.  They all get excited when they see 'white stuff' in their jars and post about how LC walks on water and raises the dead.

What they don't do is come back week later to tell you it all turned green, because they're too embarrassed.  I honestly know of no experienced growers who use liquid culture for just that reason.  I can say for a fact that mushroom farms don't use it.

When you see someone telling you how great LC is, look at the registration date, whether or not they have a TC tag, and then consider the source.
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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14326817 - 04/21/11 08:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So other than those who say LC's are worse than getting gonorrhea from a rotting whale (I'm sure there's been reported cases lol), has anyone here had good results? I know I'm still a noob, but after 3 successful harvests using spore syringes, I just wanted to expand my mushie horizon.


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: thepreciouslamb]
    #14326847 - 04/21/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've had mixed results and getting better.  The key is to test your LC before you noc up a bunch of jars.  Agar is definitely better, but it takes practice to get everything right.  Until I develop mad agar skillz, I'll be working with both (I just did agar-> LC yesterday... waiting to see how it goes).


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: thepreciouslamb]
    #14326859 - 04/21/11 09:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

From start to finish lc isnt that much faster . Spores still need to germinate. If you shoot a jar with regular ms compared to making an lc and waiting a week and then shooting up a jar. If you time it right shooting up jars with ms every week or every other week it doesnt matter, and makes less work


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: JUR-Z]
    #14326981 - 04/21/11 09:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I personally think multispore lc is pointless. unless your dirt poor and had to scrape all your pennies to get 1 syringe and your trying to spread that out because you dont have patience.


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Re: LC amount in PFtek jars [Re: lemonfuzz]
    #14326984 - 04/21/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i recently made my first attempt with LC. i made 4 one quart jars with about 700mL water to 28 grams of karo. did everything i was supposed to, and i got a nice clumpy cloud of mycelium at the bottom of the jars. it hasnt gotten any bigger for a couple weeks. theyre over a month old at this point.

so, i had 4 LCs and 8 half pint rye berry jars. i tested each LC on 2 jars each, and also shot up 2 half gallons and a 1 quart, and none of them contaminated. :shrug: i figure if i would fuck it up, it would be the first time i made them. but that wasnt the case. all the jars i started from LC colonized quickly (in 7-8 days with shaking in the middle) and had zero contamination. they all got spawned to one monotub. today is day 4 of fruiting :smile:

just my story with LC. im sure other people fuck it up. but i dont see how you could fuck it up and get mold/bacteria if you do everything by the book. :shrug:

if i make LCs again, its going to be by clone.


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