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zzantium2999
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last min tips? using bird seed for b+
#14325466 - 04/20/11 10:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey everyone. I'm about 30 Min's from inoculating my bird seed jars. I'm using a B+ syringe from THC in toronto. I'm sterilizing the bird seed with the water in rather then the tek where you just let the bird seed soak up water during a 24 hour period. once it cools down I'll be using a glove box. I'll shake the syringe, have the liquid flowing, flat side of the needle against the glass, shake the jar. well actually its getting to late to do them tonight, sooooo......I'm gonna let the cooker cool down and inoculate in the morning. any suggestions on what I should do to guarantee it will colonize?
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: zzantium2999]
#14325531 - 04/20/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
. I'm sterilizing the bird seed with the water in rather then the tek where you just let the bird seed soak up water during a 24 hour period.
What??
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uncle_rico
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: zzantium2999]
#14325566 - 04/20/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Water content will be an issue doing it like that. After a while you'll get it dialed in.
I soak to soften the seed and any endospores that may be present .. so my PC kills them all.
just my 'better safe than sorry' vibe coming out ..
edit: .. and do not shake your jars if you are using MS solution.
good luck
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Edited by uncle_rico (04/20/11 11:03 PM)
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BlackHat
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: zzantium2999]
#14325583 - 04/20/11 11:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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think he means water in the jar rather than letting the wbs soaking it up .
wouldnt know that because i haven't used wbs before!
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uncle_rico
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: BlackHat]
#14325654 - 04/20/11 11:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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.. yeah gottcha .. ummm
as I understand it, he's going to add water to a jar 1/2 full of WBS and PC it. Until he gets the technique and measurements down, water content will be a concern.
I PC soaked, simmered and drained WBS. The techniques are a little different.
4/20 also ... I jus wen burned one bowl da kine ... outdoor ..
so I might be all 'out of it'.
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: uncle_rico]
#14325697 - 04/20/11 11:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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EDIT: yea idk. all I know is I knocked up 6 jars with different subs. the wbs ones were in last place 
but some people swear by the stuff. maybe its worth a go?
Edited by BlackHat (04/20/11 11:35 PM)
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uncle_rico
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: BlackHat]
#14325774 - 04/20/11 11:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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sorry to jack dis thread ...
The moisture content of WBS is tricky until you get it down .. you want it hydrated, plumpt up internally .. and fairly dry externally.
I like it.
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zzantium2999
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: BlackHat]
#14325800 - 04/21/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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well It seems to have gone good. There is no extra water left over. All the grains have absorbed quite a bit of water. the jars were 2/3 full of seed when I started and now they're full almost to the top. there
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: zzantium2999]
#14325832 - 04/21/11 12:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Awesome.
Hope it colonizes like mad when you inoculate it. Don't shake with MS. (shake at 30%)
Good luck.
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: uncle_rico]
#14326786 - 04/21/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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hi rico why is not good to shake MS syringes? zzantium what type of pressure cooker are you using? where did you purchase it from? also how much did the syringes cost at THC? thanks
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uncle_rico
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: realcarlos]
#14327171 - 04/21/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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With liquid inoculant .. like grain LC, compatible hyphae have already found each other and 'mated' forming a dikaryotic (more than one nucleus per cell) organism. You can shake immediately to disperse the myc. throughout the grain.
With spore solution, the spores (monokaryotic) need to germinate and grow ... and find a compatible mate ... so you want to leave them unshaken and near each other so they can 'hook-up'. Then you can shake.
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: uncle_rico]
#14327182 - 04/21/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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thank you uncle rico get that name from napolean dynamite?
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: realcarlos]
#14327337 - 04/21/11 11:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh man
I wish you luck. I bought two completly garbage syrings from thc only about a month ago.
I wont be buying anything from them again
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: Sick_Boy]
#14327371 - 04/21/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Iv heard the same thing from a few other members, it appears that THC does not have reliable syringes, I have also heard they are severly overpriced as well.
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realcarlos
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how much do they charge?
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: realcarlos]
#14327412 - 04/21/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I cannot confirm price as I have never dealt with them, but have heard they were expensive from a few separate members. Perhaps someone could chime in?
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realcarlos
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thanks evil
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: realcarlos]
#14328217 - 04/21/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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they charge 30 for a needle, they have 5 varieties and 50 for a print!
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zzantium2999
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: realcarlos]
#14329089 - 04/21/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I got a pressure cooker from china town, but canadian tire has good ones. The needles are $30 for B+, Ecuadorian, Amazonian. There are rare ones for $50. THC also has vermiculite and perlite at good prices. Right next door to them is a health food place that sometimes carries brown rice flour as well
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Re: last min tips? using bird seed for b+ [Re: zzantium2999]
#14329112 - 04/21/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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SPORE WORKS!!! <--------- That's where its at!
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