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Offlineclemens
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ego death with acid possible?
    #14324685 - 04/20/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I never get the ego dissolving effects that shrooms do for me on acid. Acid seems more like a mix of tryptamine and phenethylamine, lots of visuals but not that ground shattering "omg i have go to far i will never be the same again", kinda trip i get with mushrooms.

Acid is good for watching a sunset and listening to darkside of the moon and staring at album covers going "omg, wtf".

But with mushrooms i close my eyes and turn off the lights, then i slowly build up to the point of complete ego death. A seriously intense spiritual experience for me.

Drugs effect everyone different but my cev on cid are nothing like on fungi and i never come close to ego death on cid.

I guess mushrooms are my favorite psych. Tryptamines are my passion.

What you think?


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Re: ego death with acid possible? [Re: clemens]
    #14324717 - 04/20/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Double your normal dose of LSD, i think mushrooms have more of a reputation for dissolving egos because you can normally get a lot more doses worth of shrooms than most people can with acid ie find them wild and doing bulk grows. Acid nearly always costs you nowdays and having 5+ tabs of acid is a lot more costly than having a quarter of dried mushrooms that you found or grew


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Re: ego death with acid possible? [Re: STR80180] * 1
    #14325153 - 04/20/11 09:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

One would argue that trying to attain ego death, is the ego feeding itself.


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Re: ego death with acid possible? [Re: Carl Sagan]
    #14325599 - 04/20/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Carl Sagan said:
One would argue that trying to attain ego death, is the ego feeding itself.




What ego? Don't be shaking sticks at illusions, nah mean? :tongue2:


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Re: ego death with acid possible? [Re: The Whale]
    #14325675 - 04/20/11 11:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm still not set on a real solid definition of 'ego death' but I've had some pretty deep times on lsd. There's been moments on higher doses where I truly get mixed up to where I am in relationship to the things around me.  Near objects are miles away, far objects are right in my face or even going through my face. Left is right and swirling back down and then up again. Total (sp)one ness I guess in a sense that you lose all boundaries between self and surroundings, inner and outer.


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Re: ego death with acid possible? [Re: clemens]
    #14325913 - 04/21/11 12:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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clemens said:
ego death with acid possible?



Yes;
Eat more.

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floatingwater said:
I'm still not set on a real solid definition of 'ego death' but I've had some pretty deep times on lsd. There's been moments on higher doses where I truly get mixed up to where I am in relationship to the things around me.  Near objects are miles away, far objects are right in my face or even going through my face. Left is right and swirling back down and then up again. Total (sp)one ness I guess in a sense that you lose all boundaries between self and surroundings, inner and outer.




Totally
Okay so I'm not sure it should be called "ego death". But higher doses really distort your perception of the world and yourself and you can easily become detached from your 'ego' in the speed and intensity of it. floatingwater described it well and also I've felt that there are multiple dimensions, i am existing within them simultaneously, body image becomes really distorted or forgotten about completely, merging with the universe.

It really does break down all boundaries, you close your eyes and easily forget about your body, name, location, the context of the situation, just floating in an eternity of geometry until you open your eyes again and have that amazing moment of realizing you are a person on drugs. I've gone a lot farther with acid than mushrooms.

If you aren't getting there with your LSD, try taking more, obviously, or if you still can't get there, then inhale some nitrous oxide. It really helps dissociate you from your physical ties to your body, so that the LSD can do its thing. They work amazingly together. Just a little LSD and a whippit goes a long way.

The first time I took enough LSD to feel like that without a whippit...I thought, holy god, I'm going to feel like this for probably the next twelve hours, and it just started, hold on. It has always been positive though. Never had a bad time on one of those doses. I'm still hesitant to do it again though.


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Re: ego death with acid possible? [Re: clemens]
    #14326074 - 04/21/11 01:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You haven't taken very strong LSD then.  If you can take a true 250~300 mic trip, you will get all the ego death you ever wanted.


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Re: ego death with acid possible? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14326235 - 04/21/11 03:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Insert tons of acid and it will feel like your vains and blood turn into plastic. Then some cosmic entity will rip them out of your body so you will definitely die.

Don't try at home (your home could turn out a mess).


Problem with high dose of acid: it works waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long.


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Re: ego death with acid possible? [Re: azay]
    #14326300 - 04/21/11 03:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've heard about plugging blotters

Most just say 'don't put it up your ass' without doing any research or trying it

Most speculators say 'bio availability from lsd is high enough when taken orally so it shouldn't increase much when taken rectally'

Most reports say that there certainly was an increase in potency, up to 2 times the dose they took, with a slightly quicker onset, threshold effects at 15 minutes but peaking at the normal 90 minute mark
someone reported returning to the state of an animal after eating 3 and plugging 3 at the same time.

Lots of conflict on this issue, but if it works i think if you double or triple dose + plugging would get you into ego-death, and if it doesn't, then it would be best to just stick to fungi for the ego destruction


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Re: ego death with acid possible? [Re: woutah]
    #14326390 - 04/21/11 05:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ego is but part a single chakra (heart) and doesn't help in spirituality without the awareness of the rest of them.

You guys make a big deal out of nothing in this regards.


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Re: ego death with acid possible? [Re: woutah]
    #14326409 - 04/21/11 05:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Also, the ego doesn't really "die" it is still there just has way less influence, and is more controlled by the real you, instead of intercepting everything.


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