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Cshroom
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Casing Only Pinning from sides
#14324629 - 04/20/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is about the second week my casing has been in my mini GH. Ive been running a coolmist on a very low setting as i was basing it off of my digital hygrometer. The setting it was at produce hardly any visible mist. It seems after some research that digital hygrometers often have false reading, therefore i was wondering if the 86% i was keeping it at was possibly too low of a reading thus drying out my casing and only allowing pins to come around the side of the casing. Also the first three that emerged from the sides have now grown rather large in size with only a few other pins showing around the sides....help?
P.S. pics can be provided upon request.
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: Cshroom]
#14324643 - 04/20/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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side pins happen a lot because the conditions between the side of the trey and the cake or casing are perfect for pin formation. It's normal for this to happen. You do want your humidity higher than 86 but even that isnt horrible for cubes, its not optimal, but its not the worst. If you have to mist the casings than do so. Also, if the casings are packed tight then that could cause a lack of pinning as well. Casings are supposed to be crumbled lightly and thin over the sub.
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: Cshroom]
#14324649 - 04/20/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not sure about the reason of the side, maybe it's the side toward/away from the port that the humidifier is coming in?
The hygrometers aren't very accurate when they are digital but something you can do is wrap it up in a damp/wet towel or paper towel and let it sit for ~30 mins, then open it up and that will be the max reading.
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: OneU]
#14324742 - 04/20/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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the coolmist isn't putting out enough humidity and you're not misting enough to compensate.
coolmists are good for providing fae in my opinion, but crappy at maintaining a high humidity.
This humidifer runs all the time?
Btw you won't be able to fix this till next flush. Nothing u do now is going to cause the top to fruit during this flush.
So you harvest, drench the casing, and maybe throw down some crinkled waxpaper.
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Edited by anonjon (04/20/11 07:56 PM)
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: anonjon]
#14324766 - 04/20/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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anonjon said:
So you harvest, drench the casing, and maybe throw down some crinkled waxpaper.
crinkled wax paper is def the way to go on that one if you dont have another way of keeping humidity up
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: Cshroom]
#14325169 - 04/20/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cshroom said: i was wondering if the 86% i was keeping it at was possibly too low of a reading thus drying out my casing and only allowing pins to come around the side of the casing.
You didn't mention your misting schedule, the most important factor after fresh air exchange, which you also didn't mention. There's no excuse for a casing layer to dry completely out. You're supposed to mist to replace the moisture that evaporates. RR
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14325257 - 04/20/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cshroom said: i was wondering if the 86% i was keeping it at was possibly too low of a reading thus drying out my casing and only allowing pins to come around the side of the casing.
You didn't mention your misting schedule, the most important factor after fresh air exchange, which you also didn't mention. There's no excuse for a casing layer to dry completely out. You're supposed to mist to replace the moisture that evaporates. RR
Well I have a martha type setup (2 tier greenhouse) and I used to have a ultrasonic set for 15 minutes every 2 hours for RH but the ultrasonic stopped working somehow. I had the coolmist on 24/7 and holes at the bottom of the GH for FAE. I read that the ultrasonic on 24/7 was enough for RH and and FAE somewhere so I thought it'd be suffice. Is misting and fanning a necessary addition?
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: Cshroom]
#14326415 - 04/21/11 05:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am confused, are u running an impeller type coolmist 24 / 7, or an ultrasonic?
An impeller type coolmist can keep the humidity high enuff, but just barely. Depends on the size of the area and the amount of air exchange. You will still need to mist.
If you ran an ultrasonic for 24/7 I'd expect it to be soaking wet.
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: anonjon]
#14327468 - 04/21/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im using a crane coolmist (not sure what impeller refers to)
 Its sitting behind the unit and is connected through the back of the GH. Heres what the casing looks like. For reference the tub is about 13" x 7"
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: Cshroom]
#14327482 - 04/21/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is the top even colonized at all?
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: Bstsneverr]
#14327617 - 04/21/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bstsneverr said: Is the top even colonized at all?
Just barely in a few patches...which is why im trying to figure out why only a few monsters are coming out around the sides. What steps should I take to remedy this situation?
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: Cshroom]
#14327879 - 04/21/11 02:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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harvest and wait for top to fruit. before the veil breaks.
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: anonjon]
#14328155 - 04/21/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Should I try and dunk the casing or just simply harvest the mature ones and wait for the top to colonize?
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: anonjon]
#14328157 - 04/21/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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tbh I would say the issue here was it wasn't fully colonized and you put it into fruiting conditions so it only grew from parts that were. How long was it in there?
it doesn't go back to colonization once it starts to fruit.
Edited by OneU (04/21/11 03:06 PM)
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: OneU]
#14328168 - 04/21/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: OneU]
#14328364 - 04/21/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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OneU said: tbh I would say the issue here was it wasn't fully colonized and you put it into fruiting conditions so it only grew from parts that were. How long was it in there?
it doesn't go back to colonization once it starts to fruit. 
Thats what I figured, I thought that all was necessary after creating the casing was leaving it in a dark place from 82-92% RH until it was colonized then introducing light. It was in there for a week and a half before I introduced a light cycle...should i try and remove some of the uncolonized substrate from the top...i mean this casing cant be completely fucked can it? BTW thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.
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Re: Casing Only Pinning from sides [Re: Cshroom]
#14329284 - 04/21/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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just harvest and keep misting and fanning. no need to dunk yet or remove any casing material.
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