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Do you believe in soul mates?
    #14323308 - 04/20/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

There was a mention of soul mates in another thread.  I wanted to start another thread because that one had been taken off course enough.

I feel I've met my soul mate. And I didn't believe in that sort of thing until recently.

I use to be of the "no marriage" "no kids" ME FOREVER mentality. My little brother is a gay man with no intention of marriage or children and we decided that we would get one of those old plantation homes in the country and live out our lives enjoying men and dodging commitment bullets left and right. Don't get me wrong, I liked exclusive relationships, as I wasn't a fan of whoring about, but I liked to change them up every year or so. I've had two proposals from men in my lifetime and never accepted. Just wasn't interested in the whole one man forever deal. After we couldn't lure men in anymore with our wit or looks, we would start a lovely garden and keep it up until we couldn't bend over anymore. At that point, I'd rather have my brother sitting beside me telling me to keep my old lady farts to myself rather than some old wrinkled-ball man trying to do my dusty vag.
We have a HUGE very supportive family and we take care of each other, so I wasn't concerned about becoming a hopeless invalid. I can't tell you how many aunts and uncles I've set with / cooked diner for / played cards with over the course of my life. Seemed like a good life to me.

That was what I wanted from my life.  I just wasn't interested in marrying.  For the most part, honestly, men bored me. I was beginning to think I was just a narcissist who loved herself too much to give myself to anyone.  I'd dated all types. Musicians, professors (he was also a millionaire), working class, lower class, good guys, bad guys. I had fun with them and I really liked some of them.  But no one that made me want to give up my future with myself. lol.

When I met my love, everything changed. I met him on a bus, completely out of the blue and unexpected. We talked for hours. When he got off the bus, I got this insane smile on my face and warmth flooded my body.  I knew something was different.

Now, when he touches me, it soothes my soul.  No matter what kind of day I am having, he calms me.  When he kisses me, it takes my breath away for a second. 

We fight sometimes, for sure. But we always find a middle ground. Each of us have qualities or character strengths that the other lacks. I feel like a complete person.

I am aware of the oxytocin/chemical love argument.  However, why, at 30, hasn't anyone else turned this one in me if thats the case?

What does everyone else think? Share your "soul mate" story if you want.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: ChellePepper]
    #14323386 - 04/20/11 02:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I thought I had actually found mine,  I had previously been in a 6 year relationship with someone I almost married and took a break from dating for awhile and then had some random experiences with dating but nothing lasted.  Then when I wasn't looking someone came into my life that lit me up and complimented me in ways I never had imagined.  Unfortunately, in life some experiences are only temporary before these people are removed from your life again.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: ChellePepper]
    #14323425 - 04/20/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

im tripped out so .....

all energies are equal and opposite except .......


GRAVITY

why trip ?

some would say to have a good ride.

but then some of us actualy touch on the other side or perseption
or what ever you wish to call it.

"I have light beings walk beside me" or what ever it was :smile:
no disrespect have experianced :smile:

I am far from a religous person and yes I belive I think much like
your self.

too much I have seen and done in my life.

but ....

yes I still belive as do you.

its not a place nor a time its everything.

and were all part of it and when it fits there is no choice :smile:

is it fate laughing at us or past meeting.

who knows ?

it does exist and is something than many wish for yet dont even
know they want it.

I am glad for you sister it makes me feel happy to know of others
that have found the most important thing they may ever find in there
life.

how do you explain the truth of what you speak to people that
are worried about image and self.

so yes I belive in soul mates and a great deal more as well.
for to belive in a soul mate you must first belive in a soul.

the question then truly is what is a soul :smile:

my answer would be the gravity of your thoughts feeling and actions.
the gravity of those that are felt by others.

only creatures with a soul can have a soul mate.

hence why I call you sister :smile:

after all what is tripping about.

maby one day but im not looking I think thats the key.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: ChellePepper]
    #14323445 - 04/20/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yes ive had a long relasionship that I thought was it.

but it was based on need rather than soul.

the first step is to know what your soul is I think.
or even to know that you have one.

this is very different from a book telling you how to belive.

remeber its the book also that tells us how to act :smile:

I wait.

either here or there I care not.

there are many paths.

thankyou for starting this thread chellepepper.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: shroomedalice]
    #14323526 - 04/20/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nay, I don't believe in soulmates.

Love is DEFINITELY not all that easy to find.  Lasting love vs short term lust, that is.

But I HAVE found it a few times, enough to know that it's not a one-off thing.

Thankfully :smile:


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: shroomedalice]
    #14323540 - 04/20/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I dont know man, what happens to me is that at the time I think hes my soulmate but then later on I realize he wasnt.
This guy Im with at the moment seems like he could be it...dont know anymore...


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: potgrrl]
    #14323556 - 04/20/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

props to you for having a supa lovely family chelley :heart:

i believe in soul mates! i jus think you need a strong emotional/physical attraction. i think some people confuse soul mates with platonic love tho  :Awesketch:


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: elliev]
    #14323609 - 04/20/11 03:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yep, I wouldn't call it that, but yes, someone who is meant for you.  Yes.

I had one once and a long long time ago and I  :header:  :minigun:  :rockets:  :machinegun:  :laser:  :chainsaw:  :flamethrow:  Fucked that up.

High school sweet heart, together for five years.  She won't even talk to me now...


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: elliev]
    #14323685 - 04/20/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

how do you cure platonic love if you are experiencing this with your current partner, instead of true, pure to heart unconditional love for your partner? Is it possible? How?

If there's a will, there's a way... I'm caught in a sticky situation myself :frown:


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: Cursive]
    #14324320 - 04/20/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Cursive said:
how do you cure platonic love if you are experiencing this with your current partner, instead of true, pure to heart unconditional love for your partner? Is it possible? How?

If there's a will, there's a way... I'm caught in a sticky situation myself :frown:




I'm worried about feeling this way in a new relationship.

I don't really believe in soul mates. I've never found one. People often think they find "soul mates" but years later things don't work out.

I don't think people are made for one another. I think we're compatible with an array of people. Maybe i'm wrong? I just haven't seen "soul mates" ever work out, for anyone.


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    #14324394 - 04/20/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #14324446 - 04/20/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Seems like its pretty divided.

Why then do some people touch us more than others?  Regardless of similarities or common interest?

The concept of soul mates was around long before Hollywood.  Like Plato before.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: ChellePepper]
    #14324458 - 04/20/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I believe there could be multiple people who you can establish a connection with that would be "soul-mate" like. There are just so many people...so many variables.


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    #14324476 - 04/20/11 06:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #14324485 - 04/20/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well, maybe its just me, then.

After 15 years of dating, this is feeling is completely different. And I've had several long-term relationships.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: ChellePepper]
    #14324496 - 04/20/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm really young. :shrug: I've had feelings for one person so far.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: ChellePepper]
    #14324503 - 04/20/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I believe there could be multiple people who you can establish a connection with that would be "soul-mate" like. There are just so many people...so many variables.




I don't think multiple soul mates makes sense (i dont think you're implying it does). The whole idea of a soul mate is someone made perfectly for you pretty much. Not just a compatible person.

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Well, maybe its just me, then.

After 15 years of dating, this is feeling is completely different. And I've had several long-term relationships.




And how long have you been with your "soul mate"?


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: TTT]
    #14324522 - 04/20/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I believe there could be multiple people who you can establish a connection with that would be "soul-mate" like. There are just so many people...so many variables.




^^ This.

You said it better than I!  :smile:


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: potgrrl]
    #14324538 - 04/20/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think there is a difference between "feelings" and unconditional love and trust.

From someone like me to go from a self absorbed individual to someone who would give their life for someone, says something about an connection that goes beyond physical attraction or common interests.

I've been with him a year and half.  We've lived together for almost all of that.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: ChellePepper]
    #14324574 - 04/20/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Soul mates are only for some

not everyone has a soul mate :shrug:


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: ChellePepper]
    #14324686 - 04/20/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm... Nope. I don't believe in a soul either.

Haha, I kid.... I do believe in a soul, but I think it's along the lines of soul contracts with certain people.
Karma as a balancing force... if you will.
Most of these relationships are just for the learning benefit of the two people.
This is all just what makes sense with my life experiences and I may change these beliefs if I have different life experiences.

I think the feeling of a soul mate though is just overall really good chemistry. The way two persons blend or bounce off of each other.
Theres always more fish in the sea.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: MeowMix96]
    #14324701 - 04/20/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Hmm... Nope. I don't believe in a soul either.

Haha, I kid.... I do believe in a soul, but I think it's along the lines of soul contracts with certain people.
Karma as a balancing force... if you will.
Most of these relationships are just for the learning benefit of the two people.
This is all just what makes sense with my life experiences and I may change these beliefs if I have different life experiences.

I think the feeling of a soul mate though is just overall really good chemistry. The way two persons blend or bounce off of each other.
Theres always more fish in the sea.



I agree kind of with this.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: ChellePepper]
    #14325306 - 04/20/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I think there is a difference between "feelings" and unconditional love and trust.

From someone like me to go from a self absorbed individual to someone who would give their life for someone, says something about an connection that goes beyond physical attraction or common interests.

I've been with him a year and half.  We've lived together for almost all of that.




Do you go from being self absorbed to giving your life because of him? That sounds more obsessive than healthy. Unless you're just trying to say you grew as a person. But you shouldnt feel that way just because you're in love with someone.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: TrustYourSelf]
    #14325345 - 04/20/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ChellePepper said:
I think there is a difference between "feelings" and unconditional love and trust.

From someone like me to go from a self absorbed individual to someone who would give their life for someone, says something about an connection that goes beyond physical attraction or common interests.

I've been with him a year and half.  We've lived together for almost all of that.




Do you go from being self absorbed to giving your life because of him? That sounds more obsessive than healthy. Unless you're just trying to say you grew as a person. But you shouldnt feel that way just because you're in love with someone.




I shouldn't care about more than myself because I'm in love with someone? Thats just what happened.  I wanted to be with him more than I wanted to be alone, which was previously my plan.  I don't see how thats obsessive. And, yes, I've grown as a person. I am a much better person than I was 2 years ago. I know several people who would vouch for that.

And it is beyond just being in love.  Hence, the soul mate thing. I don't think they are the same thing.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: ChellePepper]
    #14325403 - 04/20/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i read this once and it stuck with me

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Aristophanes presented a story about soulmates in The Symposium by Plato. It states that humans originally consisted of four arms, four legs, and a single head made of two faces, but Zeus feared their power and split them all in half, condemning them to spend their lives searching for the other half to complete them.




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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: ChellePepper]
    #14325411 - 04/20/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I shouldn't care about more than myself because I'm in love with someone? Thats just what happened.  I wanted to be with him more than I wanted to be alone, which was previously my plan.  I don't see how thats obsessive. And, yes, I've grown as a person. I am a much better person than I was 2 years ago. I know several people who would vouch for that.

And it is beyond just being in love.  Hence, the soul mate thing. I don't think they are the same thing.




You're not understanding what i was  trying to say. You should care about more than yourself. But it shouldn't be because you're so "in love" with this guy. It should be because you're not selfish for the sake of being not selfish. Not because you really like someone.

Are you with him so you aren't alone?

Thats good you've grown as a person. In what way is it "beyond just being in love"? Maybe you just weren't "in love" in past relationships? What makes him your soul mate besides the fact you love him and you both get along together?


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: TrustYourSelf]
    #14325575 - 04/20/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I shouldn't care about more than myself because I'm in love with someone? Thats just what happened.  I wanted to be with him more than I wanted to be alone, which was previously my plan.  I don't see how thats obsessive. And, yes, I've grown as a person. I am a much better person than I was 2 years ago. I know several people who would vouch for that.

And it is beyond just being in love.  Hence, the soul mate thing. I don't think they are the same thing.




You're not understanding what i was  trying to say. You should care about more than yourself. But it shouldn't be because you're so "in love" with this guy. It should be because you're not selfish for the sake of being not selfish. Not because you really like someone.

Are you with him so you aren't alone?

Thats good you've grown as a person. In what way is it "beyond just being in love"? Maybe you just weren't "in love" in past relationships? What makes him your soul mate besides the fact you love him and you both get along together?





Umm...Why not? As corny and cliche as it sounds, he makes me want to be a better person. And I wasn't completely selfish. I cared for my family and friends and made selfless sacrifices for them.I would put my personal needs aside if they needed me. But never for a man I was dating. NEVER. Even the ones that I was with for years. I just held myself higher than them on my priorities. Not saying I was better, they just couldn't make me want to give up the lifestyle I had already laid out for myself.

I'm not with him so I'm not alone. I wasn't alone before I met him. Actually, I was dating someone. I've always maintained a pretty steady line of suitors. And could have married at least two of them.

I'm with him because we are partners. We work together on everything in our relationship. Everything is 100 percent from each of us. We don't point blame when there is a problem, we just fix it. We know when the other is hurting without having to ask. What I lack in character, he makes up for. And vice vera.  When we solve a problem it is logical and insightful. It isn't just love, we are two parts of a whole.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: ChellePepper]
    #14325968 - 04/21/11 12:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I believe two people can have a degree of compatibility and synergy that is truly exceptional, but I do not believe in the concept of 'soul mates' as something that exists objectively for all of us to find. There's plenty of logical contradictions I can think of with the concept, kind of like reincarnation. Most relationships will hover somewhere around average, think a nice bell curve. Some will be outliers and it isn't hard to see why people would perceive their partners as soul-mates in such instances. I reckon it's mostly about timing, luck, and the degree to which you avail yourself to the fishes of the sea. Maybe I've just taken to many stats classes to ever see this idea in a romantic light though...


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: shroomnymph]
    #14326156 - 04/21/11 02:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i read this once and it stuck with me

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Aristophanes presented a story about soulmates in The Symposium by Plato. It states that humans originally consisted of four arms, four legs, and a single head made of two faces, but Zeus feared their power and split them all in half, condemning them to spend their lives searching for the other half to complete them.







Me gusta. Notice the operative word "condemn." 

As in a lifetime of searching. All to no avail...

= tragedy


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: TrustYourSelf]
    #14326369 - 04/21/11 04:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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You're not understanding what i was  trying to say. You should care about more than yourself. But it shouldn't be because you're so "in love" with this guy. It should be because you're not selfish for the sake of being not selfish. Not because you really like someone.




What?  Does this mean we should all care for Joe X on the street the exact same way we care for our lovers, friends, children, Mom?  That we should "take a bullet/help bury a corpse" for a complete stranger as well as our loved ones who have proven they're worthy of our dedication?

Or am I mis-reading? 

We're all inherently selfish beings, we all think from our perspective, and everything we do, even for another, is to gratify ourselves in some way.  Even when we martyr ourselves, it's for our own personal gratification, but others sometimes benefit from it.

I challenge you to tell me one thing you've done that isn't inherently selfish, in fact :smile:  I'll bet I can find the ego gratification you got from it, even though others probably DID benefit from your sacrifice.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: potgrrl]
    #14327189 - 04/21/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm not with him so I'm not alone. I wasn't alone before I met him. Actually, I was dating someone. I've always maintained a pretty steady line of suitors. And could have married at least two of them.

I'm with him because we are partners. We work together on everything in our relationship. Everything is 100 percent from each of us. We don't point blame when there is a problem, we just fix it. We know when the other is hurting without having to ask. What I lack in character, he makes up for. And vice vera.  When we solve a problem it is logical and insightful. It isn't just love, we are two parts of a whole.




I'm saying you should be good for the sake of goodness. If he brings out you wanting to improve yourself thats good. If you're being good to be with him or to show him you're good than its mercenary, not goodness (IMHO).

I think you're missing the point on aloneness. I'm not saying there weren't other guys. I'm saying did you get tired of being alone? Do you date so you aren't alone? You seemed to enjoy aloneness but you ran into someones arms.

What makes him your soulmate? I've been in a similar situation as you. Completely loved a girl. We were each others opposites. We worked together amazing. We lived together for awhile. 2 years in it all fell apart, we don't talk anymore. The whole time we thought we were "soul mates" when it fell apart it just hurt that much more.

I'm not saying he isn't your soul mate. I'm just curious how you know. It just sounds like you're in a good relationship. A relationship better than past relationships, but still just a good relationship. I guess it feels different too. But i had all the same things you describe, and it just fell apart years later. I hope it lasts for you.

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What?  Does this mean we should all care for Joe X on the street the exact same way we care for our lovers, friends, children, Mom?  That we should "take a bullet/help bury a corpse" for a complete stranger as well as our loved ones who have proven they're worthy of our dedication?

Or am I mis-reading?

I challenge you to tell me one thing you've done that isn't inherently selfish, in fact :smile:  I'll bet I can find the ego gratification you got from it, even though others probably DID benefit from your sacrifice.




Well in a completely ideal world we should care about every last person. But if you do this today you'll just fuck yourself over because everyone is a selfish bitch.

I think you should put more time into friends/family.

I see the game in the challenge you propose. I'll play.

Lets say
1) I don't believe in a personal self
2) I believe everything is lila

Can any of my actions be selfish?


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: TrustYourSelf]
    #14327451 - 04/21/11 12:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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TrustYourSelf said:
Well in a completely ideal world we should care about every last person. But if you do this today you'll just fuck yourself over because everyone is a selfish bitch.




Hee hee my thought is that EEPS, there are 9 billion people on the planet (heck, over 600,000 people in the city I live in) and 24 hours in a day!  Do I have time to pee? :smile:

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I think you should put more time into friends/family.

I see the game in the challenge you propose. I'll play.

Lets say
1) I don't believe in a personal self
2) I believe everything is lila

Can any of my actions be selfish?




Tell me more about why you believe these things, and why you believe this, versus something from a different culture (ie: Zen or a native shamanistic culture for example).

(PS: Cool, I hadn't heard of lila before but I love Wikipedia...)


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Everything is arbitrary.  (me)


Edited by potgrrl (04/21/11 12:11 PM)


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: potgrrl]
    #14327602 - 04/21/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

1) What is the self? The best answer i have found is "nothing"

2)
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Brahman is full of all perfections. And to say that Brahman has some purpose in creating the world will mean that it wants to attain through the process of creation something which it has not. And that is impossible. Hence, there can be no purpose of Brahman in creating the world. The world is a mere spontaneous creation of Brahman. It is a Lila, or sport, of Brahman. It is created out of Bliss, by Bliss and for Bliss. Lila indicates a spontaneous sportive activity of Brahman as distinguished from a self-conscious volitional effort. The concept of Lila signifies freedom as distinguished from necessity.
—Ram Shanker Misra, T




I believe life is experience, for the experience. I just find in my life i see certain hindu concepts manifesting.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: TrustYourSelf]
    #14328117 - 04/21/11 02:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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TrustYourSelf said:
1) What is the self? The best answer i have found is "nothing"

2)
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Brahman is full of all perfections. And to say that Brahman has some purpose in creating the world will mean that it wants to attain through the process of creation something which it has not. And that is impossible. Hence, there can be no purpose of Brahman in creating the world. The world is a mere spontaneous creation of Brahman. It is a Lila, or sport, of Brahman. It is created out of Bliss, by Bliss and for Bliss. Lila indicates a spontaneous sportive activity of Brahman as distinguished from a self-conscious volitional effort. The concept of Lila signifies freedom as distinguished from necessity.
—Ram Shanker Misra, T




I believe life is experience, for the experience. I just find in my life i see certain hindu concepts manifesting.





Experience is gratifying on its own, is it not?

Especially since you tend to steer yourself towards experiences that you desire, and away from experiences you wish to avoid... Surely you look before you cross the road, for example - and you try to walk barefoot on the part of the beach that doesn't have the broken bottle on it...


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: potgrrl]
    #14328875 - 04/21/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

why do I belive ?

a good question.

probably one I would not share in open forum though it is probably
one of the right questions I think.

something are only possible when one finds there soul is about
all I can say here.

I have to agree with some of the negative responces here as well.

I dont think every one has a soul mate.

but then again I dont think every one can find there soul either.

as some may say some peoples blood is stronger at this kind of thing
than others.

a key I think can be found in our dreams.
often people dream of people they are to meet before they
even know them.

some times when people meet its like a shift in reality.

hence all the songs singing of love at first sight.

is this the recoginition of a soul mate ?

Im not talking of lust either but love.

for my self love takes years but still I hope.

still what ever we do when it comes to other people takes
work and understanding.

weather they be a soul mate or not.

if one is loosing the spark in there relasionship then I would
probably say that only work on both parties side will bring it back.

romance is a very important thing for relasionships and it doesnt
come from honey im ready lets go for it.

can make it hard though when your working to support people to even
find the time to put the work into romance.

but it is important in my mind to find the time.

to be poor and romantic with the right person I think makes for a
better life than rich and aleinated in your own home.

the questions of how to make a friend love me like a lover I think
is personaly sick and very very selfish.

why would you want to make some one feel anything unless you curve
away from the light :smile:

yes there are many paths but the question is which one will do you
well and which one will do you harm.

take scientology for an instance or even maisonary.

to use that gift for self gain is against the most fundamental
rules of the gift in the first place.

never use it to harm others or for self gain.

when your making some one feel something your effecting there
soul.

the same rules should apply.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: shroomedalice]
    #14329580 - 04/21/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Experience is gratifying on its own, is it not?

Especially since you tend to steer yourself towards experiences that you desire, and away from experiences you wish to avoid... Surely you look before you cross the road, for example - and you try to walk barefoot on the part of the beach that doesn't have the broken bottle on it...




I do believe in doing things solely for the experience.

I don't steer. I get myself into all kinds of shit good nd bad.


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Re: Do you believe in soul mates? [Re: fbi365]
    #14331188 - 04/22/11 12:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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shroomnymph said:
i read this once and it stuck with me

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Aristophanes presented a story about soulmates in The Symposium by Plato. It states that humans originally consisted of four arms, four legs, and a single head made of two faces, but Zeus feared their power and split them all in half, condemning them to spend their lives searching for the other half to complete them.







yep I like that :smile:

I could even see were there comming from.

I think it might be more of a metaphore though of a soul/mind
meld than actual four limbed humans.


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