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A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had
    #14322241 - 04/20/11 10:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This guy just got a new credit card that gives you airline miles for every dollar you spend.

He also found out that you can order $1 coins from the US Mint for no charge as long as it is in amounts of $1000 or higher.

He bought $2000 worth of coins for $2000. He paid with his credit card so he would get the air miles and just deposited the cash in his account.

Free miles.

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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: frith]
    #14322243 - 04/20/11 10:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

.......im so going to exploit this.....

does it actually work? did he do it or is it just a theory right now?


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: frith]
    #14322255 - 04/20/11 10:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah you can do this with two credit cards as well. pay back before the interest date or whatever it is.

buy with one --> pay with other (before interest bearing date)
buy with one --> pay with other (before interest bearing date)

repeat
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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: frith]
    #14322257 - 04/20/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It might say in the fine print of the offer that you can't do that.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14322259 - 04/20/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No he did it.

Hes leaving for Texas in a month and thats how hes getting there.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14322262 - 04/20/11 10:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Haha full credit to your think for coming up with the idea! :thumbup:


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: gENERIX]
    #14322272 - 04/20/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

don't get carried away though. in the end it only gets you the free stuff that your credit card offers you.

One other great bonus is it does wonders for your credit rating. because you have an extensive history of credit purchase all paid on time and early.


But it's no secret really, and you can't really get that much free stuff. it's usually just vouchers for things. Theres no loop-hole or secret money making scheme here, it happens all the time.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14322273 - 04/20/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

DosileFlynn said:
yeah you can do this with two credit cards as well. pay back before the interest date or whatever it is.

buy with one --> pay with other (before interest bearing date)
buy with one --> pay with other (before interest bearing date)

repeat
repeat
repeat



phase 3 - free shit



only problem with this is that you are always carrying a balance. that is not good.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: gENERIX]
    #14322278 - 04/20/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

holy shit, im about to travel the world this summer......


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: gENERIX]
    #14322281 - 04/20/11 10:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This is brilliant.  Thanks!


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14322293 - 04/20/11 10:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

DosileFlynn said:
yeah you can do this with two credit cards as well. pay back before the interest date or whatever it is.

buy with one --> pay with other (before interest bearing date)
buy with one --> pay with other (before interest bearing date)

repeat
repeat
repeat



phase 3 - free shit




Umm what? U wood eventually. Have to pay.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14322300 - 04/20/11 10:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, and i think in the end you have to pay for something eventually, but i mean in the process you can get heaps of free stuff. And you can keep it running as long as you like, untill you have the megga credit card, great credit rating, and flights around the world booked.


cos if you work through it logically;

card a buys $10 --> card b pays $10

now , you have your purchase, card a has no debt, but card b has $10 debt.

card a pays $10 , ---> card b now pays $10

now you still have your $10, but now the debt is on card a.

repeat repeat repeat

now you have lots of freebies, but still the original $10 debt.

in the end you still have to pay the $10 back eventually from an external source; not card A or card B.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14322308 - 04/20/11 10:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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DosileFlynn said:
yeah, and i think in the end you have to pay for something eventually, but i mean in the process you can get heaps of free stuff. And you can keep it running as long as you like, untill you have the megga credit card, great credit rating, and flights around the world booked.


cos if you work through it logically;

card a buys $10 --> card b pays $10

now , you have your purchase, card a has no debt, but card b has $10 debt.

card a pays $10 , ---> card b now pays $10

now you still have your $10, but now the debt is on card b.

repeat repeat repeat

now you have lots of freebies, but still the original $10 debt.

in the end you still have to pay the $10 back eventually from an external source; not card A or card B.



I'm 99.99999% sure you can't pay off a credit card with another credit card without immediately having to pay interest.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: frith]
    #14322319 - 04/20/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

very clever. i like this. :smile:


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #14322320 - 04/20/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

maybe im wrong then. i was fairly sure there was a period of 'no interest' on credit cards whereby if you pay before that date, then there is no interest to be paid on the purchase.

I've heard about it from friends as a way to gain freebies from credit cards and increase ones credit rating.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14322403 - 04/20/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This is pretty cool. I figure you could just use one card, buy the $1000 in coins, get 1000 airline miles, get the coins, and go pay off the card balance with the coins (most card companies have locations where you can go to make a cash payment in person...)

Now how many miles do you need for a free flight?

:smile:

Very cool!


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: frith]
    #14322491 - 04/20/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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frith said:
No he did it.

Hes leaving for Texas in a month and thats how hes getting there.





dammmnnnn so epic ! :awehigh:


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: dwpineal]
    #14322553 - 04/20/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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dwpineal said:
This is pretty cool. I figure you could just use one card, buy the $1000 in coins, get 1000 airline miles, get the coins, and go pay off the card balance with the coins (most card companies have locations where you can go to make a cash payment in person...)

Now how many miles do you need for a free flight?

:smile:

Very cool!



It's one mile per mile you fly, and you get one air mile for every $20 spent.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: frith]
    #14322795 - 04/20/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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This guy just got a new credit card that gives you airline miles for every dollar you spend.

He also found out that you can order $1 coins from the US Mint for no charge as long as it is in amounts of $1000 or higher.

He bought $2000 worth of coins for $2000. He paid with his credit card so he would get the air miles and just deposited the cash in his account.

Free miles.





:brilliant:


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: frith]
    #14322805 - 04/20/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Be careful, I have no doubt that's illegal


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Chespirito]
    #14322831 - 04/20/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Be careful, I have no doubt that's illegal




yeah seriously.

It would seem that some dude in the credit card company would of thought of that loophole.

Then again, if you only do it occasionally, i'm pretty sure nobody would notice. Dont do it everyday though, somebody somewhere is gonna wake up and realise wha you are doing


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Patlal]
    #14322861 - 04/20/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My dad uses his business card to order stuff for his customers. Racks up thousands of points a week. He then pays off the balance almost instantly so there's little to no interest and he racks up TONS of points every year.

Enough for him to get free 2-3 day hotel stays at the beach pretty much every month.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14322923 - 04/20/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Is that your dad in your sig? That would explain things :lol:


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Asante]
    #14323379 - 04/20/11 02:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

back when interest was pretty good, it used to be worth while to screw over loans.

take out loan from bank and deposit in bank b
then take out loan from bank b and deposit in bank a
time
then pay off both banks from loan money and keep interest

..or something like that
but now not only do banks watch that shit but interest rates sucks


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Chespirito]
    #14324098 - 04/20/11 05:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Be careful, I have no doubt that's illegal




source? The only thing I can think of making it not feasable is WTF is the governemnt taking credit cards to pay for physical currency.  In theory if that is happening they are are in more in the coohoots with banks than we want to know. (Which we already know WAY to much)


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: WunderlandSpice]
    #14324145 - 04/20/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"The immediate bank deposit of $1 coins ordered through this Program does not result in their introduction into circulation and, therefore, does not comply with the intended purpose of the program."

http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/?action=directShip


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: The Whale]
    #14324170 - 04/20/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"The $1 coins, wrapped in rolls of 25, are available in quantities of $250 per box.

There is a 4-box $1 coin limit for every 10-day period on any and all $1 coin orders. Beyond that your credit card will not be authorized. If you need quantities greater than this, please send an e-mail before placing your order to directship@usmint.treas.gov to explain why your order should be exempted from the limit."

So you can max your credit card to $1000 every 10 days with the US mint, buy merchandise with the $1 coints as they are now circulated currency...return the merchandise and get dollar bills back and pay off the cc?  Wowzers


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: WunderlandSpice]
    #14324204 - 04/20/11 05:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm sure you can just take the coins right back to the bank and say they were a gift to a business but they changed their mind.

Money is money, and the program "intends" for it to be a certain way - but it doesn't indicate the illegality of not re-introducing it.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: The Whale]
    #14324283 - 04/20/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I built most of this on a a credit card:


Paid off credit card with construction loan.

Then my wife and I flew to Italy for a 2 week vacation on air miles.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: frith]
    #14324342 - 04/20/11 06:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The only potential victim I can see here is the taxpayer.  I assume the treasury has to pay a processing fee for accepting credit card payments and the money to pay that fee has to come from somewhere.  Last I heard that fee is something around 3 percent for Visa and higher for AMEX.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: frith]
    #14324381 - 04/20/11 06:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

There is a more obvious idea here:  I have several 1% cash back cards.

I wonder if I could simply cycle through tens of thousands....I mean, I've put several 3k+ purchases on it and always gotten the 1%.  I wonder how high I could go....


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: The Whale]
    #14324484 - 04/20/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

"The immediate bank deposit of $1 coins ordered through this Program does not result in their introduction into circulation and, therefore, does not comply with the intended purpose of the program."




I read that and my question is..

"define immediate".

But by all means dont. Shops will gladly give you bills for your boxes of 250 coins because if it works in the US like it does in Holland, shops need to pay a fee to receive rolls of change.

Big turnover places would get you rid of it the quickest if thats the case, but momma/poppa stores would benefit the most.

So why not circulate them? Or put the boxes on eBay for $275 fixed price, you'll definitely have buyers.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Asante]
    #14324637 - 04/20/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

who would pay $275 for a box with $250 in it?

that dosn't make sense


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
    #14324654 - 04/20/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

better than buying American coins would be to find a good source for foreign coins that fit in american vending machines..


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: the human abstract]
    #14324738 - 04/20/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Because who needs a trans-Atlantic flight when you can buy a Coca-Cola.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
    #14324743 - 04/20/11 07:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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who would pay $275 for a box with $250 in it?

that dosn't make sense




It does, only it's not 27,000 cents.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: frith]
    #14324751 - 04/20/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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frith said:
No he did it.

Hes leaving for Texas in a month and thats how hes getting there.



Why texas :facepalm:


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14324790 - 04/20/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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DosileFlynn said:
card a buys $10 --> card b pays $10
now , you have your purchase, card a has no debt, but card b has $10 debt.
card a pays $10 , ---> card b now pays $10
now you still have your $10, but now the debt is on card a.
repeat repeat repeat








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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: frith]
    #14324799 - 04/20/11 08:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You should also look into how the miles accumulate.

I recall that, at one point, I did the math and realized that "reward miles" were not all that lucrative.  If you can only buy $1000 every 10 days (as someone said earlier), you probably aren't looking at more than $400-500 a year in free flights (if that). 

I mean, free is free, but that isn't getting you very far.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14325053 - 04/20/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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DosileFlynn said:
maybe im wrong then. i was fairly sure there was a period of 'no interest' on credit cards whereby if you pay before that date, then there is no interest to be paid on the purchase.

I've heard about it from friends as a way to gain freebies from credit cards and increase ones credit rating.



A lot of cards offer 0% APR for a year and then like a 4% transfer fee. So the idea is to move your balance to a new card before the 0% ends and only pay 4% transfer fee one time.

I'm not sure if it would be worth it to pay 4% to transfer the balance to a new card over and over for "free" miles. There may be some benefit though it would obviously depend on the specific numbers involved.

I know the coin thing is legit though. I'm not sure what the bank would do if they caught on, its not really illegal but they may try to put a stop to it if it was taken too far.


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Re: A friend just told me about this brilliant idea he had [Re: badchad]
    #14325070 - 04/20/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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TTT said:
Why texas :facepalm:



he grew up there. hes going to see family.

Quote:

badchad said:
You should also look into how the miles accumulate.

I recall that, at one point, I did the math and realized that "reward miles" were not all that lucrative.  If you can only buy $1000 every 10 days (as someone said earlier), you probably aren't looking at more than $400-500 a year in free flights (if that). 

I mean, free is free, but that isn't getting you very far.



hes just going from Philadelphia to Texas. thats not an expensive flight.. under $200 if you are actually paying for it. its not a lot but like you said, free is free.


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