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OfflineCynosure
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Girlie's first psychedelic;
    #14320067 - 04/19/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Tomorrow night, the girlie and I are each consuming half an eighth of the fruits of my labor.

This will be her first psychedelic experience (minus that provided by cannabis) and my first time with the fun guy (I have a bit of experience with a handful of other psychedelics).  My first psychedelic experience was with a group of other first-timers who were all tripping together, so I'm not sure how to handle the situation.  Oh, and she has high anxiety and trouble coping with her thoughts while sober. 

We occasionally smoke the herb together, but her mindset is more watch-family-guy-and-eat-lots while I tend to want to lay back, think, and engage in some abstract conversations.  This doesn't cause problems, but it can cause a bit of awkwardness.  I'm not really worried about the trip, as I seem to be good at keeping people on the ground (mind you, they weren't first-timers).. but I would like this to go without any hiccups and I don't enjoy television while on any substance (or in my sober life, for that matter).

We both have different taste in music, but we do like a lot of the same.  How should we arrange the play-list for the night?  Should we play only music that we both enjoy, or should we each pick a few songs and have them all on the same list?

She's slightly worried about having a bad trip (after hearing the masses of stories about people jumping out of windows, cutting themselves, or going crazy and killing someone).  I tried to console those crazy thoughts by informing her a bit more about the experience and reminding her that I will be present if she starts to have difficulty.  She seems less worried about having a trip and is more excited-anxious now.

How should I respond if she doesn't cope well without laying back and letting her thoughts go?  Should I plop on the television?  I don't feel comfortable taking her outside for this journey unless she is coping well on her own.  Are there any calming activities that you guys tend to enjoy if you're having a hard time?

A fault of mine is tending to worry about other people when tripping (which is one more reason why I tend to trip alone).  I feel in this case that tendency will be increased.

Any of you guys have additional advice for tripping with a first timer or a significant other?

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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: Cynosure]
    #14320208 - 04/19/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That dose seems good as an introduction. It's solid enough that you can totally put your finger on what the effects are, but not overwhelming. I would make sure that you guys have activities you can do which are simple yet absorbing. Things that come to mind are: bicycling, minesweeper :-), horseshoes, drawing, walking/hiking, etc... Things that are easy to do but enjoyable and entertaining. I tend not to enjoy television on psychedelics, tv isn't something you want to think about too hard.

I avoid pot when on psychedelics. I find that pot makes my thoughts tend to race and amps up my abstract thinking. Psychedelics do that enough while leaving me with a clear head, pot and psychedelics make my thoughts somewhat muddled and paranoid. I know some people love the combination. If it's someones first time with mushrooms, or any psychedelic, I would recommend leaving pot out.

Tripping with a significant other can be really fun, make sure you are both really comfortable with each other.

Maybe have a benzo on hand or if you are really nervous take a little bit right before you dose. If you're nervous I don't think there's any shame in that and assuming you don't take to much benzo I don't find that it takes away from the trip that much.

Enjoy.

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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: raw-beets]
    #14320235 - 04/19/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14320256 - 04/19/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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physicist said:
DSHSB



JK.  I have been faced with the same situation.  It hasn't happened yet, but my girly wants to try some lucy, and it just so happens that I have some.  I have been telling her about the positive and negative aspect for years, so much that I don't really know how to approach it any more.  I really would like to do it with her though, but I want her to be comfortable and take it because she wants to.  Not so I can DSHSB.

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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: raw-beets]
    #14320266 - 04/19/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for your input! :thumbup:

I figured the dose was fine, as many people tend to start out at this dose.  I would have started at this dose myself if I was doing them alone.

We will be consuming them at night (22:00) so biking and hiking are out of the question.  She's very self conscious about her drawing and most creative outlets which is why I'm a bit lost as what we could do.  I'll be sure to find some simple, trippy games that she might like to play.  I'm not a fan of television either; it's just her go-to for most situations.

We won't be smoking.  I always feel that cannabis clouds the experience and I also don't want her to be overwhelmed her first time.

We are definitely comfortable with one another.  I'm very excited (as is she) to have this experience together.  I've had the mushrooms for quite a while (she asked me to save my first go at them with her) and she has finally decided that she's ready. :thumbup:

We don't have any benzos around.  It was my assumption that benzos are used to kill trips completely.  Is this wrong?  I would never take them myself to end a trip, but it might be worthwhile to obtain one or two in case she really doesn't like it.

Thanks again! :heart:


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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14320275 - 04/19/11 10:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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physicist said:
Quote:

physicist said:
DSHSB



JK.  I have been faced with the same situation.  It hasn't happened yet, but my girly wants to try some lucy, and it just so happens that I have some.  I have been telling her about the positive and negative aspect for years, so much that I don't really know how to approach it any more.  I really would like to do it with her though, but I want her to be comfortable and take it because she wants to.  Not so I can DSHSB.




Haha, I feel ya!

I tried not to explain the positives/negatives as I feel those will be experienced and categorized subjectively.  I did, however, do my best to explain the experience: time dilation, feeling of oneness, abstract/racing thoughts, overwhelming emotions/insight, etc. without spoiling it for her.

Good luck with you and your girl!  I'm sure when she's ready you'll both have an amazing time!


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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: Cynosure]
    #14320386 - 04/19/11 10:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Very jealous; my girlfriend is not the drug type  :thumbdown:

Good vibes to you.  You should have one hell of a time.

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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: Cynosure]
    #14320422 - 04/19/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the good vibes.  I send them back your way.  The only thing I worry about with my girl is that she is a type A personality, and I think ego death will be difficult for her.  But, I plan to be be her side and be as comforting as I can.  Have a good time!

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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14320447 - 04/19/11 10:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Very jealous; my girlfriend is not the drug type  :thumbdown:

Good vibes to you.  You should have one hell of a time.




Thanks for the good vibes! :heart:

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Thanks for the good vibes.  I send them back your way.  The only thing I worry about with my girl is that she is a type A personality, and I think ego death will be difficult for her.  But, I plan to be be her side and be as comforting as I can.  Have a good time!




I think you should be fine!  Start her off low so that she doesn't hit ego death on her first go. :thumbup:

My girlfriend has the same sort of personality (also mixed with the highly egotistical model/magazine/womanist model of many women these days).  This is why I'm a bit anxious about how she will react.  But, all I can do at this point is let it be and try to help her through it. :thumbup:


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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: Cynosure]
    #14320487 - 04/19/11 11:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Its also good to always have a positive feel good playlist to throw on just in case things get dark.music that makes you feel happy


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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: Cynosure]
    #14321199 - 04/20/11 01:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Try lining up something to occupy the come-up for her.  A movie, a game... something for the first timer to focus on rather than sitting about wondering and becoming anxious.  Getting through the up provides a better foundation.  Whatever that activity is it wont last long once you're tripping most likely, or laughing too hard or just WTF'ing.

You are lucky, enjoy.

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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: farmer88]
    #14321242 - 04/20/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've never tripped with a lady friend, or at least i've never had a lady
friend also take mushrooms when i do... i'm jealous...

you guys should just eat them, put on some music and a visualizer and
get comfy...

just talk and let the mushrooms do their jobs...

you two will probably come out of it even closer and with new perspectives
on your relationship!

good luck and have fun, be safe!

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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: DeliciousVinyl]
    #14322717 - 04/20/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Let us know how it goes in as much detail as you are willing to share... I'm in a similar situation, almost exactly as you describe.

I think that dosage is the right way to go, by the way.


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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: gornyhuy]
    #14322834 - 04/20/11 12:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I recently helped a friend break his "psychedelic cherry" so to speak, with his first two mushroom trips, which I wrote about in my Journal linked in my signature (entheogens link).

I found that going outside during the early part of the trip helped distract him from the nausea he was feeling during the "come up", and making sure the conversation didn't steer to any painful topics were two things that helped a lot.

Having light ambient music in the background is great, but some of those tunes can also be a bit depressing, so be ready to skip things.  I actually avoid most technology when tripping - TVs, CD players, computers, even temperature guages for houses are annoying while tripping.  As a result, I plan them OUT of my trips as much as possible.

Most of all, before the trip itself, re-assure your girlfriend that whatever happens, you'll look out for her, she doesn't have to get anxious or worried, she'll be in a safe place and you'll be safe too.  Anxiety during a trip can get pretty crazy pretty fast, but if you pre-seed this "relax, we'll be okay" theme into the trip it can really help :smile:

Be sure to post a trip report!


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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: Cynosure]
    #14323058 - 04/20/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Cynosure said:
Tomorrow night, the girlie and I are each consuming half an eighth of the fruits of my labor.

This will be her first psychedelic experience (minus that provided by cannabis) and my first time with the fun guy (I have a bit of experience with a handful of other psychedelics).  My first psychedelic experience was with a group of other first-timers who were all tripping together, so I'm not sure how to handle the situation.  Oh, and she has high anxiety and trouble coping with her thoughts while sober. 

We occasionally smoke the herb together, but her mindset is more watch-family-guy-and-eat-lots while I tend to want to lay back, think, and engage in some abstract conversations.  This doesn't cause problems, but it can cause a bit of awkwardness.  I'm not really worried about the trip, as I seem to be good at keeping people on the ground (mind you, they weren't first-timers).. but I would like this to go without any hiccups and I don't enjoy television while on any substance (or in my sober life, for that matter).

We both have different taste in music, but we do like a lot of the same.  How should we arrange the play-list for the night?  Should we play only music that we both enjoy, or should we each pick a few songs and have them all on the same list?

She's slightly worried about having a bad trip (after hearing the masses of stories about people jumping out of windows, cutting themselves, or going crazy and killing someone).  I tried to console those crazy thoughts by informing her a bit more about the experience and reminding her that I will be present if she starts to have difficulty.  She seems less worried about having a trip and is more excited-anxious now.

How should I respond if she doesn't cope well without laying back and letting her thoughts go?  Should I plop on the television?  I don't feel comfortable taking her outside for this journey unless she is coping well on her own.  Are there any calming activities that you guys tend to enjoy if you're having a hard time?

A fault of mine is tending to worry about other people when tripping (which is one more reason why I tend to trip alone).  I feel in this case that tendency will be increased.

Any of you guys have additional advice for tripping with a first timer or a significant other?

:trippinballs:




"Oh, and she has high anxiety and trouble coping with her thoughts while sober." <--- sounds like psychedelics might not be for her


"(after hearing the masses of stories about people jumping out of windows, cutting themselves, or going crazy and killing someone)" <--- this is retarded and doesn't happen.

Why don't you feel comfortable taking her outside?? Outside is the best place to be on psychedelics IMO. As long as you're not out in the bustling city, then you should definitely go outside at some point. Especially if she starts feeling uncomfortable inside. A change of scenery is sometimes all it takes to bring someone back.


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Re: Girlie's first psychedelic; [Re: Anthony917]
    #14323078 - 04/20/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I second that outside is best for psychedelics.

Inside can get claustrophobic real fast, plus nature is GORGEOUS on psychedelics!!

I just about flipped when the snow started coming down on my recent springtime tripping walk.  I couldn't believe how beautiful it was.


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