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Buying MXE from Europe
#14307046 - 04/17/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm very interested in buying some MXE, but all the vendors I can find are located in Europe. They all claim on their websites that international packages need to be signed for. Now this worries me quite a bit. What do you guys think? Am I being paranoid? Is it close enough to ketamine or PCP to be prosecuted under the analogue act?
Have any of you ordered and signed for RCs?
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Re: Buying MXE from Europe [Re: BothHands]
#14310257 - 04/18/11 02:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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BothHands, common sense should prevail. Some people will say "yeh, go for it. I had no problems", fact is some get through without been checked and others dont. It is advisable to not sign for a package containing (quasi)legal drugs.
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Re: Buying MXE from Europe [Re: BothHands]
#14310667 - 04/18/11 07:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Please realize that checking your sources is VERY important with MXE. You need to do a lot of fieldwork. Few drugs have been so misrepresented as MXE right fvrom the beginning. Tiletamine (often with zolazepam causing a dull effect and blacking out) and even PCM have all been found.
Your source has to be legit
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Re: Buying MXE from Europe [Re: Asante]
#14311105 - 04/18/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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slagMUFFIN said: BothHands, common sense should prevail. Some people will say "yeh, go for it. I had no problems", fact is some get through without been checked and others dont. It is advisable to not sign for a package containing (quasi)legal drugs.
Yeah, that's what I thought. I'm just wondering how people manage to get any MXE in the states then. I know a lot of people are getting it here.
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Please realize that checking your sources is VERY important with MXE. You need to do a lot of fieldwork. Few drugs have been so misrepresented as MXE right fvrom the beginning. Tiletamine (often with zolazepam causing a dull effect and blacking out) and even PCM have all been found.
Your source has to be legit 
Hmm, I didn't realize that. Well, I guess I'm only getting the DPT, which has an LC-MS and an NMR essaying it at 98.5%
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Re: Buying MXE from Europe [Re: slagMUFFIN]
#14311511 - 04/18/11 11:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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slagMUFFIN said: BothHands, common sense should prevail. Some people will say "yeh, go for it. I had no problems", fact is some get through without been checked and others dont. It is advisable to not sign for a package containing (quasi)legal drugs.
Very often you will have to sign for a package when buying both legal and illegal drugs through the mail. The senders ship this way so they know that you got it and the customer can't say it got lost and request a reship.
Signing for quasi legal drugs that came through customs is ok, they are not going to arrest you if they found it.
Domestic shipments of illegal drugs are less ok to sign for, but sometimes you have to do it anyway.
If some drugs come in the mail and it requires a signature, check with the sender if they sent it in a way that requires signature. If they didn't, it could be a set up. If they did, its probably best to sign for it so the package doesn't get returned to a fake or nonexistent return address.
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Yeah, all the vendors specifically state that international packages require signatures. I figure 99.9% of the time I won't have a problem, but if they do stage a setup, there's no way for me to know whether it's a setup or just the signature it requires anyway.
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Re: Buying MXE from Europe [Re: BothHands]
#14312827 - 04/18/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's not true that all international shipment require a sig. I just got one last week from china and i didn't have to sign for it.
Go ahead and sign for it. You can always deny ordering it. Signing doesn't prove anything. If the delivery person asks you what's in it say you don't know and don't recall ordering it. A normal delivery will never ask you that. I've never been asked those things.
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Re: Buying MXE from Europe [Re: Stonehenge]
#14313726 - 04/18/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, I meant all international packages from these particular vendors require signatures.
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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slagMUFFIN said: BothHands, common sense should prevail. Some people will say "yeh, go for it. I had no problems", fact is some get through without been checked and others dont. It is advisable to not sign for a package containing (quasi)legal drugs.
Very often you will have to sign for a package when buying both legal and illegal drugs through the mail. The senders ship this way so they know that you got it and the customer can't say it got lost and request a reship.
Signing for quasi legal drugs that came through customs is ok, they are not going to arrest you if they found it.
Domestic shipments of illegal drugs are less ok to sign for, but sometimes you have to do it anyway.
If some drugs come in the mail and it requires a signature, check with the sender if they sent it in a way that requires signature. If they didn't, it could be a set up. If they did, its probably best to sign for it so the package doesn't get returned to a fake or nonexistent return address.
The legal situation surrounding legal drugs that are structurally similar to illegal drugs is obscure at the best of times. While said substance may be quasilegal, by it’s vary appearance, it warrants further attention if customs / border authorities were to find it. While drug importation through mail services has been done in every conceivable way, some with very convincing wrappers, labels, cans, logos etc. etc. A package with white powder in a baggie without a cert of analysis or readily authenticable logo/trade mark raises red flags and warrants further investigation. If authorities really want to fuck you they can, no doubt about it, this situation would be the first in a chain of unfortunate consequences. But.. Importation is a game of chance, small quantities stack the odds in favor of the importer
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Re: Buying MXE from Europe [Re: slagMUFFIN]
#14317287 - 04/19/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you do import scheduled substances, make sure you have nothing illegal in the house. The worst they can do usually is search the house. If they find nothing and you say you don't know who sent it to you, you will usually get off. Do not lie and say you didn't get a package when they know very well you did. They bust in, find it opened, you lied, you go down. If you say "yes, i got a strange package i didn't order" they ask for it, you give it up and go about your business. But they will watch all shipments to that addy like a hawk after that. Better than being busted.
99% of the time it either goes through or they confiscate it. Something major like oxycontin, hydromorphone, benzos, pot, amphetamines, or a major amount of precursors, they will go the extra mile and try to trap you. Rarely they will search the house if you give up the package right away and give the right answers but if it's something major they probably will anyway. Moral of the story is don't have anything major sent to you, if you do, pay anon not with credit card, have nothing else in the house and have your story ready. If it comes, let it sit a while and write on it "return to sender" without opening it. If they come a little later, it makes your story stronger. If no one comes, the next day you open it.
I don't recommend ordering anything gray area or illegal. But... they are allowed to let 90 days supply of prescription drugs in so that is a loophole and sometimes they open the package and send it on it's way. I just got one with green customs tape on it and dept of homeland security logo. They opened my legal stuff, opened the inner foil, put it back and sent it on. Small packets like a padded mailer not too thick get through unchecked the great majority of the time. Boxes, even just a few oz get opened about 1/2 the time and bigger boxes more often. Place of origin also makes a difference. Something from holland will usually get opened.
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Re: Buying MXE from Europe [Re: Stonehenge]
#14320296 - 04/19/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I doubt anyone cares about MXE. It's a niche substance and hasn't been in the papers much, hence the DEA doesn't have anything to brag about as far as the public is concerned.
I'd try to avoid signing for it anyway though, but the first U.S. MXE small time possession prosecution is pretty far down the road if you ask me.
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