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My Religious Experiment.
    #14320051 - 04/19/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This was not a scientific experiment where i have a hypothesis and a conclusion blah blah blah. I purely wanted to see how these people would react.

I told several pastors, youth pastors, and other religious people of authority that i am bisexual (which i am) and that its not something i can control i legitly feel naturally attracted to another man sometimes just like how they are naturally attracted to women.
I asked them is god going to send me to hell for something that is beyond my control?

This is an ongoing experiement and i will continue to post the responses of different people.

One guy (a youth pastor) didnt have any idea what to say to me and told me to call this other youth pastor which i did. he basically told me that it is a sin and that everyone struggles with thoughts like that but its our choice to act on them.

others told me to stop lying to myself it IS a choice and if i continue to live like this i WILL be sent to hell.


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and thereby finds himself first;
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abandons himself,
and is thereby fulfilled


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: micro8gb]
    #14320062 - 04/19/11 09:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

One guy said that god lets some people be born with struggles they must overcome. I wanted to ask, well how come some people are born with the stuggle of being blind but i along with many others was born with a sin. WHY WERE WE BORN A SIN??
I WANTED to ask that, but i ran out of time.. WILL ask later though.


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and thereby finds himself first;
holds himself outside,
and thereby remains at the center;
abandons himself,
and is thereby fulfilled


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: micro8gb]
    #14320072 - 04/19/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

to complete this experiment I suggest coming on to the pastor to see what their reaction is. I assume many of them will want buttsex as they are gayzers.


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: argg]
    #14320077 - 04/19/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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argg said:
to complete this experiment I suggest coming on to the pastor to see what their reaction is. I assume many of them will want buttsex as they are gayzers.




hahahaha! only the catholic ones ive heard..


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The wise person,
puts himself last,
and thereby finds himself first;
holds himself outside,
and thereby remains at the center;
abandons himself,
and is thereby fulfilled


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: micro8gb]
    #14320083 - 04/19/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So then He has mercy on whomever He wills (chooses) and He hardens (makes stubborn and unyielding the heart of) whomever He wills. You will say to me, Why then does He still find fault and blame us [for sinning]? For who can resist and withstand His will [if it is omnipotent and controls all of our will and actions]? But who are you, a mere man, to criticize and contradict and answer back to God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why have you made me thus? Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same mass (lump) one vessel for honorable use, and another for dishonorable use? What if God, although fully intending to show His wrath and to make known His power and authority, has tolerated with much patience the vessels of His anger which are ripe for destruction? And [what if] He thus purposes to make known and show the wealth of His glory in dealing with the vessels (objects) of His mercy which He has prepared beforehand for glory?

-- Romans 9:18 (amplified Bible & King James)


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: sjfrockerdude]
    #14320099 - 04/19/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

this is cool, you should ask people in other religions too to compare the answers


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: sjfrockerdude]
    #14320108 - 04/19/11 10:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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So then He has mercy on whomever He wills (chooses) and He hardens (makes stubborn and unyielding the heart of) whomever He wills. You will say to me, Why then does He still find fault and blame us [for sinning]? For who can resist and withstand His will [if it is omnipotent and controls all of our will and actions]? But who are you, a mere man, to criticize and contradict and answer back to God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why have you made me thus? Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same mass (lump) one vessel for honorable use, and another for dishonorable use? What if God, although fully intending to show His wrath and to make known His power and authority, has tolerated with much patience the vessels of His anger which are ripe for destruction? And [what if] He thus purposes to make known and show the wealth of His glory in dealing with the vessels (objects) of His mercy which He has prepared beforehand for glory?

-- Romans 9:18 (amplified Bible & King James)




Thanks dude. i needed 5 mins of my life wasted reading something useless.


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The wise person,
puts himself last,
and thereby finds himself first;
holds himself outside,
and thereby remains at the center;
abandons himself,
and is thereby fulfilled


-Lao Tzu


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: micro8gb]
    #14320112 - 04/19/11 10:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

haha any time :smile:


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Better to be Socrates dissatisfied then a fool satisfied.
And if the fool or the pig are of different opinion, it is because they only know their side of the question."
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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: Greenvalley]
    #14320114 - 04/19/11 10:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Greenvalley said:
this is cool, you should ask people in other religions too to compare the answers




ok what would be some good ones?


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The wise person,
puts himself last,
and thereby finds himself first;
holds himself outside,
and thereby remains at the center;
abandons himself,
and is thereby fulfilled


-Lao Tzu


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: sjfrockerdude]
    #14320121 - 04/19/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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haha any time :smile:




what was the point to that bible quote?


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puts himself last,
and thereby finds himself first;
holds himself outside,
and thereby remains at the center;
abandons himself,
and is thereby fulfilled


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: micro8gb]
    #14320129 - 04/19/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well you asked why we are supposedly born with sin, so I figured that quote had something to do with it.

Not to mention I find it funny that part of the bible actually questions God.


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Better to be Socrates dissatisfied then a fool satisfied.
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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: micro8gb]
    #14320174 - 04/19/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Greenvalley said:
this is cool, you should ask people in other religions too to compare the answers




ok what would be some good ones?



How about a Buddhist, Hindu, Jehovas whitness, Mormon, Catholic, Muslim, anyone one else you can ask i guess...


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: sjfrockerdude]
    #14320178 - 04/19/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Well you asked why we are supposedly born with sin, so I figured that quote had something to do with it.

Not to mention I find it funny that part of the bible actually questions God.




actually its a mans account of him asking god why god has made him the way he is. the bible itself is not questioning god, it is giving answers to the questioning of god.

source: homeschool half my life by a controlling creationist mother. Bible classes out the wazoo.


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and thereby finds himself first;
holds himself outside,
and thereby remains at the center;
abandons himself,
and is thereby fulfilled


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: Greenvalley]
    #14320191 - 04/19/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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micro8gb said:
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Greenvalley said:
this is cool, you should ask people in other religions too to compare the answers




ok what would be some good ones?



How about a Buddhist, Hindu, Jehovas whitness, Mormon, Catholic, Muslim, anyone one else you can ask i guess...




Jehovas witness sounds good. so does catholic. buddhists are celebate i think so they wouldnt really have a say.. or just wouldnt give a fuck. i dont want to ask a mormon.. im afraid he would beat me.
Old school mormans believe that you get your own planet after you die.


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puts himself last,
and thereby finds himself first;
holds himself outside,
and thereby remains at the center;
abandons himself,
and is thereby fulfilled


-Lao Tzu


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: micro8gb]
    #14320238 - 04/19/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ask them if they would have gay sex with jesus if god commanded them to.


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: Salomon]
    #14320281 - 04/19/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ask them if they would have gay sex with jesus if god commanded them to.


:coaster:




they would probably say "god would never tell me to do that, to defy his own rules with his own son."... which is a good point.


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puts himself last,
and thereby finds himself first;
holds himself outside,
and thereby remains at the center;
abandons himself,
and is thereby fulfilled


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: micro8gb]
    #14320292 - 04/19/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

in my mind i could never understand gay....  imo we were made to function a certain way as a species and a man with a man cant have babies or "spread his seed"  in the manor in which our creator naturally intended :shrug:  we are physically made to reproduce in a certain way and our society is designed to shape the personality in such a way where a man "acts like a man" and vice versa..  now..  god is a whole other subject because to each his own honestly..  and religion is clearly not a science although it should be..  so everyone really formulates thier own opinions..  the correct christian answer lies in the main book of christianity which is the bible.  the bible states its a sin which is the answer any real christian would give you!  your argument seems to be that you cannot controll it so it must not be a sin?  well we all know thats a false statement because a strong person can control it.  i guess doing heroin is not a sin?  but i know a guy whos flamboyant gay and he has a wife and kids..  and lives a straight life..  to me it doesnt seem right but hey its his thing...


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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: micro8gb]
    #14320299 - 04/19/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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argg said:
to complete this experiment I suggest coming on to the pastor to see what their reaction is. I assume many of them will want buttsex as they are gayzers.




hahahaha! only the catholic ones ive heard..



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Re: My Religious Experiment. [Re: wow]
    #14320377 - 04/19/11 10:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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in my mind i could never understand gay....  imo we were made to function a certain way as a species and a man with a man cant have babies or "spread his seed"  in the manor in which our creator naturally intended :shrug:  we are physically made to reproduce in a certain way and our society is designed to shape the personality in such a way where a man "acts like a man" and vice versa.. 




what about animals such as dogs? never seen or heard of them humping their own sex?


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now..  god is a whole other subject because to each his own honestly..  and religion is clearly not a science although it should be..  so everyone really formulates thier own opinions..  the correct christian answer lies in the main book of christianity which is the bible.  the bible states its a sin which is the answer any real christian would give you!  your argument seems to be that you cannot controll it so it must not be a sin?  well we all know thats a false statement because a strong person can control it.  i guess doing heroin is not a sin?  but i know a guy whos flamboyant gay and he has a wife and kids..  and lives a straight life..  to me it doesnt seem right but hey its his thing...




so i guess another question would be: Even if you are gay but do not act upon it, is it still a sin? are you still living a sin?


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puts himself last,
and thereby finds himself first;
holds himself outside,
and thereby remains at the center;
abandons himself,
and is thereby fulfilled


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