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Safe to birth or contams?
    #14318981 - 04/19/11 06:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hello shroomery. If someone could help me out, it would be great. Are these cakes safe to birth? as you can see in one of the pics (last pic) there is still a bit of water in the bottom. Not sure if the cakes are contamined or are 'normal' looking any feedback would be great



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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: realcarlos]
    #14319008 - 04/19/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

myc piss? not sure tho... may be a bacterial contamination


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: realcarlos]
    #14319009 - 04/19/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

LMAO @ all the pins!!!!!

birth them dude... they are begging for a little misting and FAE ...


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14319221 - 04/19/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

belly me niether :frown: thats why i posted
thanks stranger but wasnt sure if it was safe to. should i still dunk?
i tried building a shot gun terrium but failed the container broke lol
is there anything easier i could do put them in a tray or something or another container big holes on each side and mist them?


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14319233 - 04/19/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: realcarlos]
    #14319237 - 04/19/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

2L bottle tek. Small plastic bin with a heated up knife to cut holes into. Those need to be birthed and dunked ASAP. If they are producing pins that look that healthy they are OK for birthing...


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: realcarlos]
    #14319272 - 04/19/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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belly me niether :frown: thats why i posted
thanks stranger but wasnt sure if it was safe to. should i still dunk?
i tried building a shot gun terrium but failed the container broke lol
is there anything easier i could do put them in a tray or something or another container big holes on each side and mist them?




How bad did you break your sgfc, if possible duck tape it together till you can replace it.

I personally would dunk them before setting them in fruiting conditions, If you decide not to tho it no biggy.


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: OneU]
    #14319276 - 04/19/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thanks guys oneu how often would i need to mist?
im guessing dunk for 24 hours?


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: realcarlos]
    #14319307 - 04/19/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

There's definitely some contamination in those cakes and the pins are forming on the non-contaminated part.  Go ahead and birth and dunk, but if the contamination turns out to be a green mold, toss the cakes out on first sight of green.  If it's warm where you are, you can put them outdoors in a manure bed and there's a good chance they'll recover and fruit well.
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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14319317 - 04/19/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thank you RR
would i still be able to use the jars? if i steam them after?
could i just dunk them for 12 hours?


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: realcarlos]
    #14319560 - 04/19/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sure brotherman, you can reuse the jars, just wash them well with soap and water. They'll get sterilized with the next batch anyway so you're all gravy.

If, for w/e reason, you can't soak them for 24 - 12 will be fine but since it's already contaminated I'd rinse them well and do it in the fridge to keep any bacteria (that's not already on there) from getting worse. Like RR said though, if it turns green (like sand) get them out as soon as possible and bury them in your yard. Even though it's contaminated you should still be able to get a few solid fruits off of it. Good Luck.


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: Dr.Boomstik]
    #14319923 - 04/19/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thank you dr
i was hoping to make a few prints


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: realcarlos]
    #14319938 - 04/19/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

review your sterile techniques.

If you are steam sterilising make sure its done properly. 90 minutes from when you see steam coming from the lid. also make sure it doesnt boil dry.


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #14319965 - 04/19/11 09:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe the bacteria formed because of excess moisture. The bottom looks soaking wet, not sure how it colonized. Post updates por favor.


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: OneU]
    #14320057 - 04/19/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thanks for the tip veda
not sure where it formed from oneu, the bottom in one of them still has bit of water in it
a bit of info
- brf tek
- used 125 ml jars (got only 8 jars using brf/verm should have gotten 10 not sure why the material only came out to be for 8)
- holes were covered with micropore tape covered with tin foil
- pc'd for a bit less than 90 mins
- noc'd up after about 16 hours (jars were cooled down)
my question is after the noculation should i have replaced the micropore tape with newer ones? maybe because the holes were left open
any ideas?


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: realcarlos]
    #14320429 - 04/19/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Did you use a layer of dry verm? Sounds like that could be the reason you got only 8 out of 10 possible jars and also maybe the contams.. If you have the verm layer you don't need a new layer of micropore tape.


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: funkyflute]
    #14321001 - 04/20/11 12:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Oh I just thought that was really odd. Some people have a lot less moisture and it stalls down there but you seem to be doing good, healthy pins even with bacteria. What strain was it again?

Nice job too getting this far :thumbup:


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: OneU]
    #14321503 - 04/20/11 03:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The second third and fifth pics are definitely tiny invitro wiener contams, come put them in my observation box with all the holes in it and I will report back.


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14321707 - 04/20/11 06:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

funky i did use a dry layer of verm
thank you oneu yeah this was my second go at brf strain was z strain
thanks 3n1 i thought pins were good but i guess not. how would i put them in your obversation box?
thanks guys for all the help/advice


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Re: Safe to birth or contams? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14322907 - 04/20/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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thanks 3n1 i thought pins were good but i guess not. how would i put them in your obversation box?
thanks guys for all the help/advice




LOL I was joking, my observation box is a SGFC with perlite in it, at least birth the ones that have invitro pins, you will have fresh mush a week later, if it turns green or smells funky throw it away, when in doubt toss it out.
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There's definitely some contamination in those cakes and the pins are forming on the non-contaminated part.  Go ahead and birth and dunk, but if the contamination turns out to be a green mold, toss the cakes out on first sight of green.  If it's warm where you are, you can put them outdoors in a manure bed and there's a good chance they'll recover and fruit well.
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