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STB vs A/B
    #14239529 - 04/04/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have done both methods and have found epically for powered root bark, a Acid/base extraction has always been better.

I find over all its better, it uses alot less Sodium hydroxide and yields a more pure product overall. For over all yields I find a A/B in the end produces more.

Feel free to chime in on your personal experiences with the two

Here are some great threads and A/B teks

https://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12288

http://wiki.dmt-nexus.com/Marsofold%27s_tek

Edited by Mushroom25 (04/05/11 12:08 AM)

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Re: STB vs A/B [Re: Mushroom25]
    #14239546 - 04/04/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ever do stb with heated pulls then use xylene too? Hit it with HCl and stir with zinc then rebase and see how much you get.


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Re: STB vs A/B [Re: Mushroom25]
    #14239547 - 04/04/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

add a poll of which people prefer,
do another detailed poll. maybe find how much people yield with each when they use 100g of mhrb
some links to stb and a/b teks

quality thread

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Re: STB vs A/B [Re: zergroz]
    #14239568 - 04/04/11 11:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Alright
STB or A/B
You may choose only one


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Re: STB vs A/B [Re: Mushroom25]
    #14239572 - 04/04/11 11:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

both but reverse order. I don't care about wasting NaoH if its faster.


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Re: STB vs A/B [Re: zergroz]
    #14239579 - 04/04/11 11:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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zergroz said:
add a poll of which people prefer,
do another detailed poll. maybe find how much people yield with each when they use 100g of mhrb
some links to stb and a/b teks

quality thread




I personally find A/B's, pull a cleaner perfect white spice that does not to be re-crystallized unlike the STB. And with alot of people getting pre powdered bark and A/B is far better

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Re: STB vs A/B [Re: Mushroom25]
    #14239600 - 04/05/11 12:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

stb with a cleanup gets you all oxide recovery with a zinc wash gets that all back to pure snow whiteness. No yellow goo and oil left at all and all done fast as you get the first bit you can freeze out but all the rest can stir in zinc later.


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Re: STB vs A/B [Re: argg]
    #14239621 - 04/05/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is prob one of the best thread regarding some great extractions

https://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12288

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Re: STB vs A/B [Re: Mushroom25]
    #14318747 - 04/19/11 05:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Here are some + for A/B extractions over a STB

You filter out the raw material making emulsion almost impossible or darken naptha

You discard the Raw material while its in water and vinegar instead of dealing with highly bacified sludge

Time wise its the same as a STB

Uses way less Sodium hydroxide, which can be hard to get in some places, Instead of a 300 gram container only lasting 3 extractions with the STB it can last 7-8+ with a A/B

Produces higher quality spice that rarely needs to be Re-crystallized

Reduces the wear and tare on your glass ware, a 1:1 ration of bark and Sodium hydroxide is alot and not needed to extract spice(A/B uses alot less).

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Re: STB vs A/B [Re: Mushroom25]
    #14318768 - 04/19/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Doesn't matter.  Find a method you are comfortable with and have confidence in, and use that method.

EACH method can get you perfectly clean, snow-white crystals of DMT.  The roads may be different, but each way can and does lead to the exact same destination.  Go whichever route you prefer and have materials for.

That having been said...its hard to find a faster or stealthier method than STB with freeze precipitation. :lol:

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Re: STB vs A/B [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14318790 - 04/19/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Nature Boy said:
Doesn't matter.  Find a method you are comfortable with and have confidence in, and use that method.

EACH method can get you perfectly clean, snow-white crystals of DMT.  The roads may be different, but each way can and does lead to the exact same destination.  Go whichever route you prefer and have materials for.

That having been said...its hard to find a faster or stealthier method than STB with freeze precipitation. :lol:

N.B.





Well they both are good methods but as said above the A/B is safer/uses less harder to find substances, and is easier to get rid of the raw material. As you have said the STB is a good staring point when learning to extract spice, but by all means its not the best. As for stealth a A/B can be done in 1 jar, other then the crock pot or pot need to heat the mixture. Also you can apply a dry tek A/B thats food safe  http://wiki.dmt-nexus.com/Q21Q21%27s_Vinegar/Lime_A/B_Extraction_Tek
All in all a A/B is Superior but does take a few more steps

Edited by Mushroom25 (04/19/11 06:00 PM)

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