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5HTSynaptrip
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DOCSIS 3.0 is amazing!
#14281836 - 04/13/11 01:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So the Time-Warner tech came to my new house today to check the cable lines and install a drop. Two weeks ago I bought a Motorola SB6120 (DOCSIS 3.0) modem. My last surfboard lasted 7 years and so I stuck with em. The LED's on it are green if it isn't bonding channels and blue if it is. I'd read a lot about ppl that have most of or all the wideband hardware on there streets getting much better download without payingfor theextreme service.
My package is the 15Mbps which usually gives a quarter less of that or more. Once my MAC was registered and the modem was online I directly connected it to my laptop to run bandwidth tests. I used speakeasy, speedtest, and vonage and my highet d/l were all in a 450 mile radius @ ~32Mbps avg. Out to Cali I got 19.
Drastic difference and I got 7Mbps from steam whichthey probably throttle. The awesome thing was that I called my local office JUST TODAY the wideband became available at my house forexisting customers which I barely am. It wasn't even in the system @ their 800 #! The local cable office could've upgraded me but until they figure out how to block the bonding I'm happy getting almost double my package speed.
If they do block it I'll just pay for extreme since I was gonna anyways but wow... What a cool kinda loophole. The only problem is roadrunner doesn't technically have the SB6120 on their accepted modem list and there are some rumors around they pushed a firmware update that bricked a lot of these modems. It isn't substantiated as way more ppl use them with no problems.
Still stuck with shitty upload and they don't give static IPs . Wanted to let you all know though because if widebandis coming to you quite soon a DOCSIS 3.0 modem may really increase your download.
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johnm214


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How did you figure out what they had and how to get it?
Whenever I've looked at time warner packages, I always see a menu of unintelligible marketing giberish, i.e. "Super Plus speed", "Super Plus speed with Turbo Afterburner", et cet
The few times I've had to speak to their phone support, moreover, don't leave me with much confidence I could find somebody who knew how to do anything than read the instructions which are allready in their documentation.
What do you do, exactly, to get this info? I currently share with a neighbor and we're thinking of changing, but I'm not sure how to get Time Warner's offerings in terms that make sense. (i.e. do their reps even know what DOCSIS is? It seems Time Warner has a couple outer rings of manual-reading retards on the phone support team that you need to penetrate before anyone knows which way is up. I've recently had to fight with them over poor performance/signal strength on a cable package and dealing with those people is insufferable- you just get told to restart the modem, download internet explorer, et cet, lol)
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5HTSynaptrip
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Re: DOCSIS 3.0 is amazing! [Re: johnm214]
#14293396 - 04/14/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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dslreports and a few other sites that I've been a member of for a while had some interesting information about all of this. Originally, I was going to get ATT U-Verse, but saw they had implemented the 250gb cap so RR was my only option.
I've always preferred owning my own modem as to using the crap they give you, which is one of the benefits of cable, and it really shocked me how incredible the QoS is. Yesterday I called them to upgrade my internet to the extreme package and since it had just come out that day there was error code when the woman was trying to put it in th system or w/e, but I called today and a guy said I couldn't get extreme anyways b/c I don't have the tv (only option is wideband for 99).
Fuck em though... I just downloaded the HD version of inception in like 14 minutes. 
I love that little blue LED on my modem. If these twats fucking brick my modem I'm gonna be pissed though.
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johnm214


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Hmm, I just looked at the local roadrunner site and was surprised to see that they do, indeed, actuallya dvertise DOCSIS 3.0! I was surprised they gave this info.
Of course the other meaningless marketing giberish is still there and every other class has no real information on what your buying (i.e. what good does knowing max speed do if they don't promiss you'll see that even one second out of the month? They refuse to provide a minimum speed guarentee or even a running average and standard deviation).
I can't fathom how their marketing department works- they apparently think words like "turbo" and "powerboost" are all you need to know when buying an ISP service.
Bleh, check out these packages:
- Road Runner®
For blazing fast speeds you can’t get with DSL, access the Internet directly over Time Warner Cable’s Rich Fiber Network. Choose the level of service that’s right for you.
- Road Runner with PowerBoost®
Download a lot of music and movies? Get an extra burst of speed for even faster downloads. Subscription to Road Runner Standard or Road Runner Turbo is required to receive PowerBoost. Road Runner Turbo with PowerBoost provides a burst of download speed when capacity is available above the customer’s provisioned download speeds for the first 10 MB of a file or for Road Runner Standard customers up to 7 MB of a file. It then reverts to your provisioned speed for the remainder of the download. Actual speeds may vary. Not all service tiers are available in all areas. Many factors affect speed.
- Road Runner Turbo
They don't give you any information about this, but apparently you have to buy a subscription to get Road Runner "PowerBoost"
- Road Runner Standard
They don't give you any information about this, but its mentioned in their fine print. Is this the same as the "Road Runner" service advertised above?
- EarthLink High Speed Internet
It’s six times faster than the standard DSL package and up to 150 times faster than dial-up*. *Up to 6 times the speed of DSL claim is based on Road Runner's standard download speed of up to 10 Mbps versus the standard DSL package’s maximum download speed of 1.5 Mbps. Speed comparison is based on a typical DSL package and may vary by area. Dial-up speed comparisons are based on Road Runner’s maximum download speed of 10 Mbps versus the average of a 28k and 56k modem’s maximum download speeds. Actual speeds may vary.
- Time Warner Cable Wideband Internet
Get the next-generation Internet for today’s generation. With download speeds of up to 50 Mbps, Time Warner Cable Wideband lets you download movies in minutes and songs in seconds.
http://www.timewarnercable.com/neowpa/learn/hso/default.html
Then there's the secret throttling of random types of network traffic and bandwidth caps that ISP's apparently implement without notice whenever they feel like it, and the contracts which typically allow them to do anything they want without notice or a chance to opt out.
Am I the only one having trouble figuring this stuff out? It seems like they don't give you any information except useless marketing buzzwords like "Power Boost"- whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.
/end rant
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Re: DOCSIS 3.0 is amazing! [Re: johnm214]
#14305943 - 04/17/11 12:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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im with charter and paying for 16 down, 2 up. its not uncommon for me to get 40+ down on speedtest servers, but i still only get like 2.1 up. still...cant complain. same modem as you with a netgear wnr3500l router
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5HTSynaptrip
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Yea, it boggles my mind how the DOCSIS 3.0 and channel bonding really give me very stable speeds. Like you said John, I've been paying for the turbo bullshit for years and have never had 15 Mbps. In the past couple of months I've had downloads not even hit over 100 Kbps!!! WTF! (at the old house)
We've been in this house a few days now and I've noticed no problems whatsoever! My download has always been well above the 15Mbps on speedtests and downloads from places like steam, hulu, and iTunes are faster than I've ever had them in my entire life. During primetime I've been easily getting 3-4 Mbps from all of them and Hulu hasn't ever streamed under the highest quality for any video so far.
Since I don't have cable TV with them the assholes won't let me get the extreme internet (30 down /5 up). Why the fuck wouldn't you offer a service that exists just because a person doesn't bundle? Even just being assholes and charging more would be ok but to not even allow a person to get it? Fucking assholes... I can get the wideband which is the fastest residential they offer but it's like $100 damn near and I don't need that. So now I really need them to not figure out how to limit my bandwidth for quite a while since my only option is turbo or wideband for my needs.
Again, I can't explain how incredible the SB6120 is. It's totally worth it to just buy your own.
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5HTSynaptrip
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Shitty... my channel bonding is gone and my LED's are green. 
My QoS is still very good though so I hope it stays this way.
Bastards.
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