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Does Everyone Cheat?
#14317030 - 04/19/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Really, In my group of long-term friends I can think of many who cheated on long-term 'it isn't okay to fuck other people' lovers in the next room from myself. It seems to be the norm.
Am I the only one who hasn't cheated? Over the age of twenty-five at least and also in North America?
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14317048 - 04/19/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I cheated on one "girlfriend" when I was like 13, but I don't really count that.
I think cheating is hands down one of the most disrespectful things you could EVER do to another person. If you want to go fuck other people, at least have the decency to tell your partner that you're no longer interested. Why keep the charade going? Why hurt someone else like that? I've been cheated on and it's a horrible feeling. I wish my gf at the time would have broken up with me before going out and being a cunt
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei] 1
#14317057 - 04/19/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've never cheated. I think that Cheating is despicable
I would never want to be cheated on, It's the most disrespectful thing you can do to some that you "care" about.
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I've cheated on my ex before, I still feel horrible about it and wouldn't do it again.
But i can't do anything about it now, but just take it as a lesson learned.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14317084 - 04/19/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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everyone who can does
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14317087 - 04/19/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Never cheated. But I've only been in two serious relationships in my life.
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Also, less the 'I got drunk and fucked someone else, but am willing to come clean about it' cheat, as opposed to the 'hey, I love you, lets get a place together while I fuck someone else while for a few months...you get to hear about it from a complete stranger later' kind of cheat.
Just spoke to an old lover, typing that paragraph above made me feel better. Was definitely still in the right.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: Anthony917]
#14317146 - 04/19/11 12:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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zgbzgb1 said: everyone who can does
This.
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Anthony917 said: If you want to go fuck other people, at least have the decency to tell your partner that you're no longer interested. Why keep the charade going? Why hurt someone else like that?
I think most people who cheat don't have any intention of doing so. I bet more often than not they just happen to meet someone else that they really click with and then they give in to their natural impulses.
I think it's fucked up to keep a long affair going on the down low, but sometimes cheating just makes sense. I should also mention that I've never cheated on anybody, but I've also never been in a LTR. I have fucked two women who I knew had boyfriends, but I didn't know the guys.
Really we just need to be more honest about our sexuality as a society. Cheating has always happened and always will, I'm sure there's a small percentage of people who are mentally strong enough to not do it, but I bet they're the exception, not the norm.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
#14317156 - 04/19/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
#14317160 - 04/19/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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uber_aj said: I'm sure there's a small percentage of people who are mentally strong enough to not do it, but I bet they're the exception, not the norm.
Kind of like the percentage of people who can turn down a slice of cheesecake because they're watching their weight?
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14317179 - 04/19/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Closest I got to cheating was me and my GF were taking a "break" and I hung out with an old friend from highschool. We got high and drunk in her dorm and started kissing. I felt so bad about it, I told my GF about it, which was a huge mistake. Then I had to hear about her suspicions constantly afterwards.
Now, if I'm in a relationship that I want to stay in, I watch who I spend time alone with. Just because I don't want anyone thinking anything like that.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj] 1
#14317186 - 04/19/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Really we just need to be more honest about our sexuality as a society. Cheating has always happened and always will, I'm sure there's a small percentage of people who are mentally strong enough to not do it, but I bet they're the exception, not the norm.
I strongly disagree. It's not that hard to say "no, I won't fuck you cause I already have a girlfriend". It's not like you have to have incredible willpower. Maybe you just can't resist the pussy?
IMO it is never OK to cheat. Cheating, is, in effect, ending your current relationship. So, why not just end it before you fuck the other chick?? If you don't respect the person enough to tell them, then you're just a dirty bastard.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: Anthony917]
#14317226 - 04/19/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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No. I don't cheat.
Its kind of double edged as you get older too. On one hand, after you've been in a relationship for a long time and have kids and such, you risk a lot more for cheating. On the other hand, the longer you go, the more potential there is for boredom.
I'd be curious to see what the Jersey-Shorification of america's youth has done to the rate of cheating.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14317231 - 04/19/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you truly give a shit about your girlfriend/wife, knowing how much cheating on them would hurt them should be more than enough to keep you from doing it.
People who can't control themselves....
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14317252 - 04/19/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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never cheated myself, I cant say the temptation wasnt frequently present but I never acted on it
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: Anthony917]
#14317253 - 04/19/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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uber_aj said: I'm sure there's a small percentage of people who are mentally strong enough to not do it, but I bet they're the exception, not the norm.
Kind of like the percentage of people who can turn down a slice of cheesecake because they're watching their weight?
More like the percentage of people who could turn down a hot, home-cooked meal while totally fucking stoned and hungry.
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Anthony917 said: I strongly disagree. It's not that hard to say "no, I won't fuck you cause I already have a girlfriend". It's not like you have to have incredible willpower. Maybe you just can't resist the pussy?
How often do you actually have to say that? I bet if it was as many times as the average girl has to down the advances of guys trolling for ass, you might slip now and then.
Let's say your g/f hasn't put out in a while, maybe she's gained a little weight, or started an addiction you don't like, or maybe you've just been arguing a lot lately. You've been fairly horny, and then you meet a girl who dresses in that perfect way, looks slightly better than your current g/f, perhaps she's a little more intelligent, you find out through innocent conversation that she shares all the same interests as you. Then lets say she knows exactly how to turn you on and makes a move...
I don't believe you'd shut her down. I'm not calling you a liar, I just don't believe that some sense of morality would stop you if the conditions were right.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: Anthony917]
#14317281 - 04/19/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was in a LTR for almost two years and even after all that time I would never cheat on someone I'm in a relationship with. It's the single biggest violation of trust in a situation where trust is of the utmost importance. I feel that if I'm in a relationship that it's because I want to be, and if I were sleeping around on my girl that means I probably don't want to be in the relationship any longer.
I'd break up with the girl before cheating on her, even if that's fucked up it's less fucked up than cheating on someone and playing them for a fool and acting as if nothing happened. I couldn't live with the guilt and I would always live in fear that she would find out if I ended up doing it.
All of that said, however, I can't say I understand what the feelings and emotions that occur when you cheat on someone is like to experience. I'm sure there's a rush of some sort and some people spend their lives searching for a rush like that. I still think it's just fucked up to do that to someone, especially someone you love .
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
#14317319 - 04/19/11 01:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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uber_aj said: More like the percentage of people who could turn down a hot, home-cooked meal while totally fucking stoned and hungry.
More like people who are stoned and hungry and can turn down fast food when they've got a home-cooked meal waiting for them at home.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
#14317359 - 04/19/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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uber_aj said: I'm sure there's a small percentage of people who are mentally strong enough to not do it, but I bet they're the exception, not the norm.
Kind of like the percentage of people who can turn down a slice of cheesecake because they're watching their weight?
More like the percentage of people who could turn down a hot, home-cooked meal while totally fucking stoned and hungry.
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Anthony917 said: I strongly disagree. It's not that hard to say "no, I won't fuck you cause I already have a girlfriend". It's not like you have to have incredible willpower. Maybe you just can't resist the pussy?
How often do you actually have to say that? I bet if it was as many times as the average girl has to down the advances of guys trolling for ass, you might slip now and then.
Let's say your g/f hasn't put out in a while, maybe she's gained a little weight, or started an addiction you don't like, or maybe you've just been arguing a lot lately. You've been fairly horny, and then you meet a girl who dresses in that perfect way, looks slightly better than your current g/f, perhaps she's a little more intelligent, you find out through innocent conversation that she shares all the same interests as you. Then lets say she knows exactly how to turn you on and makes a move...
I don't believe you'd shut her down. I'm not calling you a liar, I just don't believe that some sense of morality would stop you if the conditions were right. 
I would turn her down without even thinking twice. Maybe you have questionable morals
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
#14317378 - 04/19/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Anthony917 said: I strongly disagree. It's not that hard to say "no, I won't fuck you cause I already have a girlfriend". It's not like you have to have incredible willpower. Maybe you just can't resist the pussy?
How often do you actually have to say that? I bet if it was as many times as the average girl has to down the advances of guys trolling for ass, you might slip now and then.
Let's say your g/f hasn't put out in a while, maybe she's gained a little weight, or started an addiction you don't like, or maybe you've just been arguing a lot lately. You've been fairly horny, and then you meet a girl who dresses in that perfect way, looks slightly better than your current g/f, perhaps she's a little more intelligent, you find out through innocent conversation that she shares all the same interests as you. Then lets say she knows exactly how to turn you on and makes a move...
I don't believe you'd shut her down. I'm not calling you a liar, I just don't believe that some sense of morality would stop you if the conditions were right. 
I'd get her number, break up with my gf who never put out and was getting fat, then bone her guilt-free
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: Salomon]
#14317387 - 04/19/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Salomon said: monogamy is quite the custom for an animal of a social nature, which herds not all men.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: Silversoul]
#14317398 - 04/19/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It could always be the reverse of that, they could have fast food at home and a thick juicy steak right in front of them...
Anyway, I'm not arguing that everybody cheats all the time. I'm arguing that there are certain factors and conditions that, if manifested, would prompt virtually everybody to cheat. Some people never have to face that moment, especially men who are often expected to make the first move. It's easy to imagine turning down some mediocre looking drunk girl at a party, who you'd suspect is a slut and might have an STD. It's easy to turn down someone who is aesthetically inferior to your current mate. That's not always the case though.
Not every person who cheats started in middle school and has a long history of cheating. I'd bet most of the cheaters who aren't serial cheaters never imagined that they would cheat, and would probably say something similar to what every non-cheater in this thread has stated.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14317416 - 04/19/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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numonkei said: Does Everyone Cheat?
I've been with my woman for 9 years and I've never cheated on her, so to answer your question simply, NO!
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
#14317450 - 04/19/11 01:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I never cheated.
When I get this temptation to cheat, its because there is a deeper problem to resolve
Since I have a hard time getting emotionally involved, odds are i'm simply going to end it. After that, i'm free to do anything.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
#14317548 - 04/19/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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uber_aj said: I'd bet most of the cheaters who aren't serial cheaters never imagined that they would cheat, and would probably say something similar to what every non-cheater in this thread has stated.
And I bet most fat people never imagined they'd get fat, but the high-calorie food was too tempting and exercise felt too burdensome.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14317640 - 04/19/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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People who cheat are nothing but hypocrites.
You can choose either being in a long term relationship if it suits you, and if you are not happy with that for any reason end it. You can alternatively choose too just fool around and have no type of comprise with someone. It's easy. Doing both is just wanting the second but not having the balls to risk ending up old and alone when no one else wants you, which is basically being a coward, worthless piece of shit.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: pouihi]
#14317711 - 04/19/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've been cheated on before..it sucks. I've never cheated on anybody, and I've had 2 chances to do so. I have, however, had sex with girls who I known had boyfriends, but I didnt know the boyfriend...whatever you want to call that. I would never do that to one of my friends, though.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: pouihi]
#14317878 - 04/19/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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pouihi said: People who cheat are nothing but hypocrites.
You can choose either being in a long term relationship if it suits you, and if you are not happy with that for any reason end it. You can alternatively choose too just fool around and have no type of comprise with someone. It's easy. Doing both is just wanting the second but not having the balls to risk ending up old and alone when no one else wants you, which is basically being a coward, worthless piece of shit.
What's it like in black and white world? Is a kiss cheating, btw? We've never actually defined this wildly subjective word...
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
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black and white world? man if you're not certain you want to be with someone don't be a selfish prick and simply don't be with them, as easy as that. twelve year olds usually settle for kissing, I don't know any grown person who cheated/cheats and doesn't go beyond kisses. ANyway if that's what satisfies you and you want to go kissing people around you don't need to have someone being lied to, again, it's selfish. If you have gray areas regarding what a relationship is then don't get into one, save the other same time.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: LZip]
#14317919 - 04/19/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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LZip said: I've been cheated on before..it sucks. I've never cheated on anybody, and I've had 2 chances to do so. I have, however, had sex with girls who I known had boyfriends, but I didnt know the boyfriend...whatever you want to call that. I would never do that to one of my friends, though.
that brings up a whole new question.
Is it ok to fuck someone who you know is in a relationship?
personally I wouldn't care if I didn't know her boyfriend, but I wouldn't get emotionally close to her because she is obviously a cheating whore and would end up cheating on me.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14317947 - 04/19/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, not everybody cheats. Of course, in certain circles and subcultures its more prevalent than others.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14317989 - 04/19/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Considering a lot of peoples integrity and morals are fucked beyond comprehension. yes a lot of women and men cheat.
ive known all my good friends to do it. me personally, i have had the chance while being in love and a serious relationship and it was a turn off and i decided not to. the chick i was cheating with was almost as sexy as my girl too.
a lot of people are just seriously fucked in the head these days and they lie, cheat, are cut throat, and generally do not care about anyone besides their selves and family. Of course its always been that way but its just accepted more to do so now, truly its a sign of the times.
either you can conform and live like this and at the same time lie your ass off about it, or you can not. i can assure, sadly, the only one whos gonna really care is you in the end.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: pouihi]
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I'm just saying, if you're with somebody and the magic has worn off, and you meet someone new who you really click with, I don't see any problem with letting the night run it's course (whether it's kissing or a lay) and breaking up with the other person the next day. I don't believe that you or anybody else in this thread dumps their sig. others at the first sign of questioning their own desire to be in the relationship either, that's silly.
And you don't know any people who kiss but don't fuck on the first night? That's for twelve year olds? Fuck, I wish more women thought like you.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14318022 - 04/19/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm 26, have been in 5 serious relationships and have never once cheated. Never will either. I would never want to hurt the person I'm with and I'd expect them to treat me the same way.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: Gumby]
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I'm 20. I have only been on one serious long term relationship (which was allot different than short term for sure!), I have never cheated. I'm just happy that theres any one that would care about me the way they have.
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I'm 20, and I have never cheated on anyone. Though I haven't been in too many serious relationships.
I've actually turned down girls because they have boyfriends who I'm friends with. I won't fuck someone's girlfriend, whether I like them or not.
I've also turned down girls just because I wasn't digging their personality. Seems like most guys will fuck almost anything half decent looking that comes their way. I definitely feel like an exception.
That's not to say I wouldn't fuck a really hot girl who was really annoying. I've done that before, but it's all situational. Sometimes I'm just not in the mood to have sex.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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yeah, same for me.
however, i have been cheated on by most of my significant others.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
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I'm 25 too and I've never cheated or been cheated on (as far as I know). I had a dream that I cheated on my current girlfriend (the love of my life who I plan on marrying when its financially feasible for us) and i felt indescribably horrible about it afterward. even when i woke up i still felt bad, it was weird. i didn't even tell her about the dream because it'd probably scare the hell out of her and i don't want to inspire suspicion in her and have to deal with that.
I'll never cheat and i agree with the guy who said he'd break up with his girlfriend first if he really wanted to hook up with someone else. Also it seems in many cases that "once a cheater, always a cheater". I'm sure there are plenty of one time cheaters, but in more cases it seems to be a personality trait. some people are prone to addiction or alcoholism, others are habitual cheaters. I'm sure i would hate myself forever if i cheated even once, but i wouldn't ever take that first step and risk falling into a life of cheating on girlfriends.
If you really want to have sex with multiple partners then don't get into a committed relationship. and if you find the one you want to commit to and be exclusive with, think real hard before you commit to them and realize it means you'll have to turn down temptations that are bound to come up from time to time.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
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uber_aj said: I'm just saying, if you're with somebody and the magic has worn off, and you meet someone new who you really click with, I don't see any problem with letting the night run it's course (whether it's kissing or a lay) and breaking up with the other person the next day. I don't believe that you or anybody else in this thread dumps their sig. others at the first sign of questioning their own desire to be in the relationship either, that's silly.
And you don't know any people who kiss but don't fuck on the first night? That's for twelve year olds? Fuck, I wish more women thought like you.
alright I can sorta agree with this, as long as you don't cheat & hide it and continue the relationship as if nothing ever happened.
I think that we've all been at that point in a relationship where you can tell that it's not going to progress any further and you want to leave them...but might not have the heart to do it? Idk, I can see where ur comin from aj and I think that it'd be fine to cheat as long as you broke up with the person immediately afterwards.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: Anthony917]
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I'd like to make a chart of those who have admitted to cheating or claimed never to versus post count, maybe this could be used as an argument that spending excessive amounts of time on 'The Shroomery' leads to higher levels of integrity.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
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i go out with girls just so i can cheat on them
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: Coaster]
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Coaster said: i go out with girls just so i can cheat on them
Hey man, at least you actually know where you stand, that's a leg up on most folk.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: zgbzgb1]
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zgbzgb1 said: everyone who can does
Yeah pretty much the way I feel about it. I have cheated and I'm proud of it. If I'm not in love with the person then I am going to cheat on them. If I love them or care about them then I am loyal as a dog, but most people I'm with I'm only there for the laughs. I need a "real" relationship, but those are hard to come by, so I enjoy life to the max. Besides there really isn't anything special about sex anyways. It's just a sensation, like eating or shitting.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: MeowMix96]
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ya but I don't cheat
because in my rule book all is fair in love and war
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: MeowMix96]
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zgbzgb1 said: everyone who can does
Yeah pretty much the way I feel about it. I have cheated and I'm proud of it. If I'm not in love with the person then I am going to cheat on them. If I love them or care about them then I am loyal as a dog, but most people I'm with I'm only there for the laughs. I need a "real" relationship, but those are hard to come by, so I enjoy life to the max. Besides there really isn't anything special about sex anyways. It's just a sensation, like eating or shitting.
I can only assume that if you need a "real" relationship, and that is not by definition an open relationship where trust can occur with outside fucking, then your attitude will continue to make those relationships REAL fucking hard to come by.
You can enjoy life to the max, but some would argue that there is a much more profound level of happiness stemming from perpetuation of a loving and trusting relationship than a simple sensation. Kants' utilitarian definition of layman's basic pleasures versus a higher quality of satisfaction from the 'smart art' basically.
Of course, the trusting can be maintained in an open relationship, but that isn't what I mean by cheating. The rules are different in that case and it ISN'T cheating, but I'd sacrifice busting a nut one night for a few years of a long, loving, and trusting relationship any day.
Then again, after being cheated on in such a situation where undeserved trust was allocated, I wish I WOULD have fucked all her friends. One former lover told me today that her friend drunkenly taking her shirt off and trying to seduce me before pushing her off is what led to her cheating. That's, of course, complete bullshit. Shouldda fucked the big-titted hottie. 
Chivalry is dead for a reason, it has to go both ways.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14319281 - 04/19/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've never cheated. Just would not do that.
I don't know if I've been cheated on. Most probably not. There is a small outside chance though.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
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I totally agree with you on most of it. I understand that trusting relationships do happen and I would gladly sacrifice simple immediate pleasure for pleasure of a longlasting nature, but the fact of the matter is that I am only alive for so long and if the right person isn't here I don't see the harm in abusing the abusers. The majority of my relationships have not been trusting ones/stable, which is why I cheated and continue to cheat. It's fun and more satisfying then just having sex. Cheating is more of a fetish then anything. A way to add to sex. Obviously this is a big issue for you and I don't mean any offense or disrespect to the people who are loyal to their partners. It is an admirable desire, but I have lost the "illusion" of romance or caring. I also have a problem with sex with the same person being interesting. I can only have sex with the same person so many times. I think it's biological.... that's my excuse anyways.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: MeowMix96]
#14319352 - 04/19/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's only a big issue for me personally when it's used in a hypocritical way. I often find that those who cheat in long-term relationships tend to be overly paranoid about being cheated ON.
It's a big issue right now because I'm a stupid person who keeps talking to their ex, (she started fucking around immediately after we got a place in a new city with someone in the old city, 90% of furniture and appliances were/are mine), and she became hyperjealous while she cheated and I did not, this happened for months. Loved her enough to forgive the cheating and be in an open relationship if the deception would stop. It did not, and hyper-jealousy resumed. It continues, and I left months ago and we rarely speak.
Cheating and lying is different than cheating and not lying or being in an open relationship. It becomes more of a trust issue than, as you mentioned, simply a sensation.
All I'm saying is if you carry that attitude in all your relationships, you may find the 'Right One', but fuck it up due to either sex or trust issues. Then again, I've never once cheated and have been cheated on by every girl I've been in love with, so maybe I'm just fucking wrong. That was the whole point of making the thread, to shed some light on that in what is a sample that I could relate to more so than other internet or tangible venues.
My prior response was not meant to be hostile or belittling, if it came across as such I apologize.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
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cheating, particularily lying about cheating in a relationship is a lot like jenga.
if it is taken care of early on, usually it can be dealt with without toppeling the relatonship. but the longer it goes on, and the longer it stays as a secret, the more likely that the relationship will fall down around the both of you.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: MeowMix96]
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MeowMix96 said: I totally agree with you on most of it. I understand that trusting relationships do happen and I would gladly sacrifice simple immediate pleasure for pleasure of a longlasting nature, but the fact of the matter is that I am only alive for so long and if the right person isn't here I don't see the harm in abusing the abusers. The majority of my relationships have not been trusting ones/stable, which is why I cheated and continue to cheat. It's fun and more satisfying then just having sex. Cheating is more of a fetish then anything. A way to add to sex. Obviously this is a big issue for you and I don't mean any offense or disrespect to the people who are loyal to their partners. It is an admirable desire, but I have lost the "illusion" of romance or caring. I also have a problem with sex with the same person being interesting. I can only have sex with the same person so many times. I think it's biological.... that's my excuse anyways.
That's despicable.
If you don't care about someone, or the relationship you have with them, then don't be in it. Simple as that.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
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numonkei said: It's only a big issue for me personally when it's used in a hypocritical way. I often find that those who cheat in long-term relationships tend to be overly paranoid about being cheated ON.
It's a big issue right now because I'm a stupid person who keeps talking to their ex, (she started fucking around immediately after we got a place in a new city with someone in the old city, 90% of furniture and appliances were/are mine), and she became hyperjealous while she cheated and I did not, this happened for months. Loved her enough to forgive the cheating and be in an open relationship if the deception would stop. It did not, and hyper-jealousy resumed. It continues, and I left months ago and we rarely speak.
Cheating and lying is different than cheating and not lying or being in an open relationship. It becomes more of a trust issue than, as you mentioned, simply a sensation.
All I'm saying is if you carry that attitude in all your relationships, you may find the 'Right One', but fuck it up due to either sex or trust issues. Then again, I've never once cheated and have been cheated on by every girl I've been in love with, so maybe I'm just fucking wrong. That was the whole point of making the thread, to shed some light on that in what is a sample that I could relate to more so than other internet or tangible venues.
My prior response was not meant to be hostile or belittling, if it came across as such I apologize.
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sometimes being hated by others fuels it by jealousy. certain people are really just too fast to be loved. its highly complicated when affection comes into play and fear. its really one of societies big love to hate issues.
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Could you articulate on that a bit? I don't quite understand what you mean.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
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i mean some poeple have advantages of looks and get more attention and sex then other people. its a vane world. so that makes them more likely to cheat.
it throws your question for a loop because not everyone falls into that category, so therefore those who can, will, if they dont think its a bad thing by their standards.
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I know I've been offered plenty of sex I haven't taken. Only regret it when it turns out that a lover at the time, assumed to be straight-up, was cheating AND lying. Cheating hurts, at least to this mind, but being lied to about it is a deal breaker. Otherwise it's always been forgivable, it's sex and I can understand it.
Especially if it's over a long period of time. She KNEW I would get angry, she KNEW it would hurt me. She also KNEW I wouldn't hurt her, and She KNEW I wouldn't use it against her later. So, therefore, either she did NOT know one of the statements above, which means she didn't know me as well as I thought she did at the time. Or, I did not know HER as well as I thought I did at the time. Either way, it killed a relationship I treasured, and meant that I turned down fucking her REALLY, REALLY hot friends after they came onto ME.
It sucked, still sucks, need to vent semi-anonymously, thus this thread.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
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uber_aj said: I'm just saying, if you're with somebody and the magic has worn off, and you meet someone new who you really click with, I don't see any problem with letting the night run it's course (whether it's kissing or a lay) and breaking up with the other person the next day. I don't believe that you or anybody else in this thread dumps their sig. others at the first sign of questioning their own desire to be in the relationship either, that's silly.
And you don't know any people who kiss but don't fuck on the first night? That's for twelve year olds? Fuck, I wish more women thought like you.
So why would you be with someone who's "magic as worn off"? And go out as available as if you were single?
I think it's not complicated, if you're single do whatever you want, no one's business but yours, you don't need to have a gullible soul at home waiting for you just in case that really hot chick from the night wakes up finding you a bit different than what you looked like.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14321667 - 04/20/11 06:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've never cheated, but I've been the other guy a few times.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: pouihi]
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pouihi said: So why would you be with someone who's "magic as worn off"? And go out as available as if you were single?
I think it's not complicated, if you're single do whatever you want, no one's business but yours, you don't need to have a gullible soul at home waiting for you just in case that really hot chick from the night wakes up finding you a bit different than what you looked like.
Well, I wouldn't personally, I never enjoyed being in relationships and haven't been in one for years. But, I think most people stay in relationships where the magic wears off, in fact I saw a study on the Science channel that showed most people's attraction to their partner only lasts 4 years at most, less if it starts out as a really hot relationship. Most people have been comfortable at that point and we all know how resistant most folks are to leaving their comfort zone. They did show one couple who were an exception, the attraction center of their brains still lit up after ~17yrs. They were both weird people, probably why it worked.
So, maybe you have a good thing going, you do care for the other person, but the attraction is wearing off. Ofc you aren't going to dump them right away, b/c you're comfortable with them and don't want to hurt them, and you're not sure you want to leave them (grass is always greener, ya know?). You also don't have to "go out as available as if you were single" to meet someone, it could always be a new coworker, a random stranger at college, something like that.
Life is change and we have a fairly large capacity to surprise ourselves, which is why I think it's black and white to dismiss cheaters as gutless cowards and to paint relationships as things you only enter with people you deeply care about and are 100% sure you want to be with. If that's how it's worked for you, congrats. But most people have to try a wide variety of partners before finding someone special.
I agree with you in the sense that it's fucked up to have someone waiting at home for you while you intentionally go out looking for strange. Lying and hiding it is a shitty thing to do to somebody, although in some morbid fashion, I'm fascinated by the guys you occasionally hear about who have two separate families where neither knows about the other... not that I want to do that, but it's an interesting social anomaly kinda like serial killers.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
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Now we agree on something.
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If that's how it's worked for you, congrats. But most people have to try a wide variety of partners before finding someone special.
So did I, after a failed relationship with a fucker who's into having gf and constantly cheating I had my fair share as a single, and I think it's also great if that is what you want and you know that you want, and eventually found someone with whom I'm in the same length wave, so I'm good and wouldn't ruin that for anyone. I just think that when you meet a new person that you fancy and get stuck on that situation "being w/someone and wanting another" it's because you aren't already connect to the person you're having a relationship and should have already finished the relationship.
Because it's equally coward to maintain a relation just because you don't have anything else at the moment (so stick w/that until something better comes around).
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: pouihi]
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pouihi said: I just think that when you meet a new person that you fancy and get stuck on that situation "being w/someone and wanting another" it's because you aren't already connect to the person you're having a relationship and should have already finished the relationship.
Because it's equally coward to maintain a relation just because you don't have anything else at the moment (so stick w/that until something better comes around).
This is the big thing we disagree on. I take the meaning of cowardice fairly seriously, I think your use of that term is a judgmental, emotional reaction to having been cheated on somewhat recently rather than a fair reflection of human behavior.
There's nothing wrong with shallow dating for fun and sex as long as you don't mislead the other person, nor is there anything wrong with dumping someone if you find somebody you'd rather be with. I don't find the regular lay a good enough reason to put up with all the drama that accompanies that lifestyle, personally, but to each their own. I see no concrete reason why a person should automatically end their relationship just b/c their connection to their partner doesn't meet your arbitrary criteria.
I'm glad we found a middle ground on some things, though. My views are fairly abnormal I guess, at least in comparison to my peers.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
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pouihi said: I just think that when you meet a new person that you fancy and get stuck on that situation "being w/someone and wanting another" it's because you aren't already connect to the person you're having a relationship and should have already finished the relationship.
Because it's equally coward to maintain a relation just because you don't have anything else at the moment (so stick w/that until something better comes around).
This is the big thing we disagree on. I take the meaning of cowardice fairly seriously, I think your use of that term is a judgmental, emotional reaction to having been cheated on somewhat recently rather than a fair reflection of human behavior.
There's nothing wrong with shallow dating for fun and sex as long as you don't mislead the other person, nor is there anything wrong with dumping someone if you find somebody you'd rather be with. I don't find the regular lay a good enough reason to put up with all the drama that accompanies that lifestyle, personally, but to each their own. I see no concrete reason why a person should automatically end their relationship just b/c their connection to their partner doesn't meet your arbitrary criteria.
I'm glad we found a middle ground on some things, though. My views are fairly abnormal I guess, at least in comparison to my peers.
What's the point in 'shallow dating for fun'? If you're going to date someone, then you give them your all, otherwise just be fuck buddies. I don't really understand that logic at all.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: pwnasaurus]
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I dunno, but there's no reason to condemn it b/c you don't see the point. Maybe dating is the only way the guy knows how to get laid? Maybe the type of girls he is banging don't like the idea of having several fuck buddies at one time; maybe the guy is a masochist who enjoys paying for overpriced dinners; maybe he thinks he understands women better by dating a bunch of them?
Who knows, regardless, it does happen and it's ignorant to label someone else a coward or some other derogatory term b/c you don't understand their love life or perspective. You're (I don't know about you personally, but pouihi is) lumping them into a Potential-Cheaters category and projecting your negative emotions onto them, it's childish. I could go into a big rant about how people who use the terms "slut" and "whore" are sexually repressed puritans who are right up there with the "God Hates Fags" folks, but if you don't see my point after all these posts, I doubt that'll be a good selling point.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
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aj I just think that most people view relationships as a trusting bond between two people. You enter the relationship having mutual respect for one another, trusting that your partner will be loyal. That is what a relationship is. If you want to fuck whoever comes along, then you should never be in a relationship to begin with, and by entering in one with the intention of being unfaithful...then you're a giant douche
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: Anthony917]
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Anthony917 said: aj I just think that most people view relationships as a trusting bond between two people. You enter the relationship having mutual respect for one another, trusting that your partner will be loyal. That is what a relationship is. If you want to fuck whoever comes along, then you should never be in a relationship to begin with, and by entering in one with the intention of being unfaithful...then you're a giant douche
I think open relationships are fine for those who want that. Each couple can decide for themselves what their boundaries are, and anything that crosses those boundaries is cheating.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: Silversoul]
#14323015 - 04/20/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Anthony917 said: aj I just think that most people view relationships as a trusting bond between two people. You enter the relationship having mutual respect for one another, trusting that your partner will be loyal. That is what a relationship is. If you want to fuck whoever comes along, then you should never be in a relationship to begin with, and by entering in one with the intention of being unfaithful...then you're a giant douche
I think open relationships are fine for those who want that. Each couple can decide for themselves what their boundaries are, and anything that crosses those boundaries is cheating.
I agree with both you. My only point in this argument has been:
Nobody likes being cheated on, but demonizing cheaters (and potential cheaters) is stupid, because the only things that ultimately separate you from them are chance and circumstance. It's likely that at least one person you know and respect has cheated at some point in their life, yet you wouldn't call them a coward/piece of shit. If I used ultra-conservative morality I could find a way to label every single one of you a cheater.
In conclusion, it's great that most of you guys can say you don't cheat, but get the fuck off of your moral high horses about it, you might surprise yourself one day.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
#14323122 - 04/20/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I actually didn't experience that recently.
I'm nothing like an "ultra-conservative" moralist, and you saying that just because I think cheating is coward is in itself judging.
I'm a great fond of honesty and respect, and I don't praise dishonest people.
As I said I've always put that matter plain simple, if you want to have the freedom to be with others other than just one, play fair and make things in way in which you're not misleading anyone, assume what you stand for and what you want, be it single, open relationship, fuck buddies or whatever suits you.
If you wish to be with only one person and go cheating on them you are in fact a coward piece of shit, assume your actions and live up to the consequences.
I have plenty of buddies who have those kind of relationships, I myself have had relationships in which I wasn't willing to compromise with that person but never lead them to believing otherwise, always was straight. Eventually I met someone with whom I wanted to share a more profound connection, and believe me for me to be with someone at this level it is because it's someone I think it's really worth it and who I think it's worth compromising. I respect him a lot and would never be able do to something which I knew would hurt him. Even if don't love someone you're with anymore, you should at least respect them.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14323373 - 04/20/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ive cheated twice, both times with the same girl on different girlfriends. havent done that in a long time now though, say 9 or 10 years.
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pouihi said: I'm nothing like an "ultra-conservative" moralist, and you saying that just because I think cheating is coward is in itself judging.
I did not accuse you of being ultra conservative.
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CubensisCliff said: ive cheated twice, both times with the same girl on different girlfriends. havent done that in a long time now though, say 9 or 10 years.
Would you describe yourself as a coward piece of shit for doing that, or would you describe it as a mistake/lapse of judgement/youthful indiscretion?
See, I have a theory that we're all human beings, and no matter how saintly and morally sound we tout ourselves to be on this internet forum, we're just as prone to error as the next person and therefor totally unwarranted in our judgment of other people. Remember that to many people, our rationalized drug use is on par with (or worse than) infidelity...
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
#14323715 - 04/20/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Many 'indescretions' get one to be called a coward piece of shit.
I've never cheated, like I've said. But I've broken hearts, and in circumstances where I'd call myself a coward, piece of shit. I've lead and stolen plenty, mostly youthful indiscretion, but I was definitely being a coward, piece of shit more most of those, (a few instances being really a fucking courageous piece of shit.)
I can think of a few instances where cheaters immediately fessed-up, and courageously accepted consequence for their actions. And some of them were even justified in their actions. But nine times out of ten, the cheating is coupled with lying, (cowardice), and often with disregard for someone they are fronting on about respecting in the deeper senses, (greediness, general piece o' shit being).
It's arbitrary, as you said, but it's really fucking rare that it is not an action often DEALT WITH at least in a cowardly manner and a selfish manner, even if it was resulting from one indiscrepancy. I wouldn't say most of those who cheated on me were pieces of shit, but most were definitely cowards, no question, by unanimous degrees of acceptance in our shared social circles.
I think you may be misinterpreting someone using 'bitchy' synonymously with 'bitch' where it isn't being used as such in response to some of the earlier ones up the thread.
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Remember that to many people, our rationalized drug use is on par with (or worse than) infidelity...
Really don't think that this is correct, maybe in some of the more ultra-conservative circles but people seem to be by-and-large much more rational about drug policy these days. Last few times I've been popped the cops apologized the whole way down to the stations for the 'bullshit'
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: uber_aj]
#14324420 - 04/20/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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uber_aj said: Remember that to many people, our rationalized drug use is on par with (or worse than) infidelity...
And the most irrelevant point of the year goes to..... uber_aj!
Drug use is something that is between a person and their own morality - cheating is violating the trust, respect, and boundaries two people have set between each other.
Note how one is only related to oneself, and the other is related to MUTUAL TRUST and RESPECT. Key being that people have no say in what I do with myself, but we can all agree on the fact that cheating is morally wrong - what constitutes cheating differs between every relationship, and we certainly won't be able to agree on that, but the concept of it is almost universally agreed upon.
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Re: Does Everyone Cheat? [Re: numonkei]
#14324656 - 04/20/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, everyone doesn't cheat.
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