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35 GALLON tub
    #14314227 - 04/18/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the 35 gallon tub is 100% colonized... just entered consolidation phase.... im crazy fucking stoked (was anticipating contams cause ive never done anything this big before.)

Substrate: 1/4 coir, 1/4 verm, 1/2 hpoo, with a bit of gypsum mixed in for good measure. The depth is approx 4 inches.
Strain: Treasure Coast from TheHawksEye
Excitement Level: Bordering on shitting my pants.

:discorex:  will post pics when consolidation is done and i open the tub for the first time...

:Awemazing: wish me luck, this is by far my biggest project yet.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14314241 - 04/18/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Awwww shii! :docbrown:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14314247 - 04/18/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

NICE! look foward to pics


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: Greenvalley]
    #14314269 - 04/18/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

good luck sir, i lost a 50 gal a few weeks ago, that was fun :smile:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: basic360]
    #14314301 - 04/18/11 10:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Pics man!


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: bbt0009]
    #14314352 - 04/18/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)


best pic i cld get through the window on the top of the tub... lots of condensation and such, so sorry for lack of clarity. Also, i know the mycelium doesnt look too white in this pic... but this is due to the plexi glass window i have to take the pic through, not the best camera, and shadows inside the tub from the black plastic hanging over the substrate.


hopefully that gives some perspective of how beast the tub is @_@


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger] * 1
    #14314356 - 04/18/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:whacker::popcorn:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: afrosheen]
    #14314385 - 04/18/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14314502 - 04/18/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: Damion5050]
    #14314518 - 04/18/11 10:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:popcorn: :plur:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: Primal Call]
    #14314939 - 04/19/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

damn i cant wait to see this thing fruit!!!


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: skiddy]
    #14315171 - 04/19/11 12:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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skiddy said:
damn i cant wait to see this thing fruit!!!




meeeee eeeeither :headbanger:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14315472 - 04/19/11 02:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Senior .... may I interest you in a casing layer ?!

The layer will absorb the condensation droplets that are currently on the substrate surface.

If you make a 50/50+ (vermiculite, peat  w/ 1 teaspoon of hydrated lime and 1 tablespoon of gypsum for every cup of peat), you'll be F'ing styling Brother !

You'll be able to mist and fan to your heart's content (the casing layer will absorb and evaporate whatever you throw at it .... The ph will be close to 8.0  ....so you will get defense against trichoderma ... for another 10 to 12 days ... enough to get through a solid 1st flush ..

That's what I would do to bring that BIG BAD tub to market.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: uncle_rico]
    #14316790 - 04/19/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

casing scares me :frown: the last time i cased a monotub i SERIOUSLY regretted it soon after.... i think im just gonna have to let this tub ride it out man.. i figure alot of the surface condensation will evap when i introduce fruiting conditions and i would much rather see the surface of my substrate than case it i believe..... if i begin having dryness issues / uneven pinning / etc i will consider it around the second flush..... gonna hold off for now though


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14316892 - 04/19/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wow!  Pulling up a chair for this one!

I'm casing-phobic too, I know how ya feel...although everyone else seems to be able to get it right.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: abica]
    #14317209 - 04/19/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wow thats a real life "Thats what she said" joke lol


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14320063 - 04/19/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I get serious condensation when my bulk substrate is colonizing ....

When I put the monotub into fruiting conditions, I'll run it without polyfill in the holes to get big FAE to dry the condensation droplets on the bulk surface and also to trigger a nice pinset.

but  ... maybe its droplets sitting on the substrate too long ... or maybe some exposed grain on the surface that gets it ... Trichoderma has been getting my uncased tubs.



a ph balanced (8.0) casing layer will hold the trich. off and really stabilize conditions in the tub.

Believe me, I have done my share of successful uncased tubs.  The next one will have a casing layer and we'll see if that helps in my battle with Mr. Green.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: uncle_rico]
    #14320080 - 04/19/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That sucks rico, what is your substrate ?


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: Damion5050]
    #14320104 - 04/19/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

godlike.  inc mountains of trip inducing shrooms


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: Damion5050]
    #14320148 - 04/19/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

hey Damion ,

bulk is my normal half coir, half Hpoo with vermiculite and gypsum added.  when I'm out of manure, I'll do coir (amended with some earth worm castings) with verm. and gypsum.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: uncle_rico]
    #14320160 - 04/19/11 10:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Trich that early in the process tells me it was in your spawn. Your cake should be extremely contamination resistant from surface contaminants at that phase of its life cycle.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: uncle_rico]
    #14320162 - 04/19/11 10:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That sucks bro, you didn't change any of your normal routine did ya


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: afrosheen]
    #14320259 - 04/19/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

don't want to jack this thread too bad ...

No, the spawn is good.

I post mortem autopsy the tubs big time and know what a tub with contaminated spawn is like.  I fruit these outside where there are tons of trichoderma spores ... and the green is starting right on the substrate surface.

I do mix my spawn and bulk (and do not add an additional layer of bulk) ... so there is a chance that the trich. got a foothold on a kernal of grain on the surface ... (the bulk sure looks 100% colonized before it goes into fruiting).

That particular tub was probably 10 days into fruiting ... with exposed water droplets on the surface for probably 6 of those 10 days.

solutions may be: a final layer of bulk sub. on top of the mixed spawn/sub. to completely cover the grain.

and a ph balanced casing layer ...

or any ideas you may have.

.. sorry for the thread jack


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: uncle_rico]
    #14320316 - 04/19/11 10:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Signed in!  Yummy a good first flush is sure to bring over 10 ounces!


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: highc]
    #14320893 - 04/20/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Good lucking tub man!
Cant wait to see some porn:smile:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: SaturnClaus]
    #14320986 - 04/20/11 12:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This is gonna be good.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: highc]
    #14322652 - 04/20/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Signed in!  Yummy a good first flush is sure to bring over 10 ounces!




id be more than happy with a QP flush..... but i sure hope you are right!!!


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14322682 - 04/20/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Gonna be following this grow...

:awetrippie:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: shroomtastic89]
    #14322807 - 04/20/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Heres some low grade pin porn from one of my small tubs to keep yalls interest high while we wait on my big tub to pin


These all popped up within the last 24 hours




as always, sorry about not having a great camera/being a good photographer.... i count 26 pins ATM, I know alot of them are not to easy to see, but i promise they are there!


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14323173 - 04/20/11 01:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:popcorn: good job!


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14323514 - 04/20/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Heres some low grade pin porn from one of my small tubs to keep yalls interest high while we wait on my big tub to pin


These all popped up within the last 24 hours




as always, sorry about not having a great camera/being a good photographer.... i count 26 pins ATM, I know alot of them are not to easy to see, but i promise they are there!




There is a lot of condensation in that tub. Are you sure it's getting enough FAE?


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: healing]
    #14323676 - 04/20/11 03:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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healing said:
Quote:

stranger_danger said:
Heres some low grade pin porn from one of my small tubs to keep yalls interest high while we wait on my big tub to pin


These all popped up within the last 24 hours




as always, sorry about not having a great camera/being a good photographer.... i count 26 pins ATM, I know alot of them are not to easy to see, but i promise they are there!




There is a lot of condensation in that tub. Are you sure it's getting enough FAE?




im fanning SEVERAL times a day and when im not actively fanning there is a box fan on the other side of the room pointing in there general direction.... i am a bit concerned about the condensation too tho


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14323799 - 04/20/11 04:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

tht's a lot of condensation, on the real.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: afrosheen]
    #14323847 - 04/20/11 04:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: LayinUp]
    #14323848 - 04/20/11 04:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

k, think pulling out the poly fill from one of the holes for a while wld help much?


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14324215 - 04/20/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The condensation is fine. Only worry about it if the myc does, i.e. you see yellow metabolites forming on the surface.

Fluffy myc with water droplets suspended above the surface = best microclimate you could wish for.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: afrosheen]
    #14324248 - 04/20/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Fluffy myc with water droplets suspended above the surface = best microclimate you could wish for.




Good to know.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: afrosheen]
    #14324421 - 04/20/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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The condensation is fine. Only worry about it if the myc does, i.e. you see yellow metabolites forming on the surface.

Fluffy myc with water droplets suspended above the surface = best microclimate you could wish for.




hearing this gave me a chubby :bow2:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14324703 - 04/20/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14324720 - 04/20/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

watching this one :-)


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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14324900 - 04/20/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys, so just wondering... how long should i let something this size consolidate? i normally just do a few days after 100% visible colonization.... think i shld let this one have longer?


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14324906 - 04/20/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

WOOT WOOT  :hypnotoad:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: dr0409]
    #14324912 - 04/20/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

wait till it starts pining imo...


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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: dr0409]
    #14324914 - 04/20/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I let my big mono's consolidate for a week to 10 days


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: dr0409]
    #14324922 - 04/20/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

kk..ty, i will give it atleast 7 i think


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14325209 - 04/20/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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wait till it starts pining imo...




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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: highc]
    #14327605 - 04/21/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

updates :

small tub

continueing to do great IMO, count 35 pins today... alot of the new ones are still TINY, but alot of the old ones are progressing nicely :smile:

big tub:
no difference yet, only giving it a couple of 5 minutes bursts of light a day to check for pins/contams.... consolidation contiues


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14328519 - 04/21/11 04:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

There's a bit of myc piss on the bottom center of that photograph.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: healing]
    #14328525 - 04/21/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i know :frown: i havent misted today and ive left the fans on longer than normal... debating lightly dabbing with a paper towel or something...


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14328960 - 04/21/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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There's a bit of myc piss on the bottom center of that photograph.



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i know :frown: i havent misted today and ive left the fans on longer than normal... debating lightly dabbing with a paper towel or something...




What could be causing the mush to produce those metabolites? What can stranger_danger do to improve his pinset?


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: healing]
    #14328970 - 04/21/11 05:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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There's a bit of myc piss on the bottom center of that photograph.



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i know :frown: i havent misted today and ive left the fans on longer than normal... debating lightly dabbing with a paper towel or something...




What could be causing the mush to produce those metabolites? What can stranger_danger do to improve his pinset?




im pretty sure the metabolites(myc piss) are caused by standing water on the surface of the mycelium ( to much wetness).... not 100% sure though.... but hey, id be down for more pro people than me to come along and answer those questions too :awethumb:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14329067 - 04/21/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

TC from THE was the first strain i ever bought.
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: SilvioDante]
    #14330561 - 04/21/11 10:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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TC from THE was the first strain i ever bought.
wishing you the best of luck :mushroom2:




Awesome :smile:

How was the potency? I have never knowingly eaten this strain before, and am quite curious.
Also, do you recall your average fruit size? Mine seem a bit small compared to other strains i have experience with (only a few).

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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14332407 - 04/22/11 09:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

it was a multispore inoc. i tried to fruit them off brf cakes and got impatient. i then crumbled them into a plastic shoe box like container and put a casing layer over them.

i got some medium sized fruits. when they were ready i ate about 20 grams fresh. as for potency, its still one of my favorites.

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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: SilvioDante]
    #14332479 - 04/22/11 09:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Can't wait to see this!


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: oysterlover]
    #14332533 - 04/22/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:popcorn:wow, man, that's huge! IME metabolites are caused by something the mycelium doesn't like, such as an infection, incorrect ph, to much Nitrogen in the sub, or something else wrong with the sub


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14332855 - 04/22/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

UPDATES


small tub this afternoon , lookin good i think?

* upon more thorough examination i count 64 pins in the small tub today, up from 43 yesterday :smile:, over half are still under a centimeter for sure, but pins none the less!*








and... tHE BIG TUB HAS PINS!!! just a few tiny ones... but it is now on a 12/12 light cycle and has way more FAE... pics coming soon when the pins are actually well visible :feelsgoodman:



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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14332871 - 04/22/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i'm excited to see this.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: Big Worm]
    #14338192 - 04/23/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

UPDATES!!!!!

Small Tub

Looking good, right? :awethumb:



the 35 gallon tub




Now i know the camera sucks and the pics arent great, so I made 3 smaller pictures of sections of the tub in hopes that you guys could see all the tiny little pins popping up all over the place :smile: . The pins are not as even spread as they could be, but it is early in the pinset development and there are tons of tiny little clusters of 4-6 pins popping up everywhere :smile:)))


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14338283 - 04/23/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Looking good :thumbup: Can't wait to see that 35 gallon tub's first flush.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: healing]
    #14340918 - 04/23/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

stranger_danger what did you do to increase FAE in the 35gal tub?
i was going to suggest either bigger holes, or loosen up your polyfil a little

fanning whilst colonizing has always scared me, the way a casing scares you
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: just me]
    #14341083 - 04/23/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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stranger_danger what did you do to increase FAE in the 35gal tub?
i was going to suggest either bigger holes, or loosen up your polyfil a little

fanning whilst colonizing has always scared me, the way a casing scares you
and dont dab myc piss with a paper towell...im sure we've all done it, but shouldnt be regularly practiced right?




I have a box fan about 6-8 feet from the big tub pointed slightly off the side that runs on low all day. i just took some polyfill out of each hole (about 1/3 of it) and let it do its thing.... i count around 75 pins in it so far :smile:

also....
picked 4 mushrooms from the small tub today... all together they weigh 40.32 grams wet... picked off the 4 caps (even though there are tiny caps) and set em up to print tonight :smile:

Plan on continuing to do this with the entire flush from the smaller tub. If anyone would like a TC print I would be glad to send a few out... especially if you want to trade me another active print :shoosh: (u dont have to tho, i cld send a few out as freebies too :Awemazing:)


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14342149 - 04/24/11 03:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Next time you print, make sure the caps have flattened out a little bit more.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: healing]
    #14342762 - 04/24/11 09:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Next time you print, make sure the caps have flattened out a little bit more.




the veils were totally torn off and had been that way for 2 hours or more.... i didnt want to risk them dropping their spores early


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14342918 - 04/24/11 10:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Next time you print, make sure the caps have flattened out a little bit more.




the veils were totally torn off and had been that way for 2 hours or more.... i didnt want to risk them dropping their spores early




They have plenty of spores to drop, even if you catch them somewhat late as they flatten, you'll get decent prints.


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Next time you print, make sure the caps have flattened out a little bit more.




the veils were totally torn off and had been that way for 2 hours or more.... i didnt want to risk them dropping their spores early




They have plenty of spores to drop, even if you catch them somewhat late as they flatten, you'll get decent prints.




so then why does them being flat matter? wont they drop the same amount of spores, just in a smaller circle? they will all just get scraped into a jar with water and sucked into a syringe anyways :-P


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14343064 - 04/24/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You want the caps to drop spores quickly (flattened and drying).  If you have to wait very long (say, over 12 hrs, there is a chance the cap will start getting funky, slimey and then you can get bacteria on your prints.





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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: uncle_rico]
    #14343085 - 04/24/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the pic in my sig on the left is THE TC after some years of agar. they are powerful.


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    #14343106 - 04/24/11 11:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Best thing you can do for TC is make a nice and thick sub. set them and forget them. and pray they do not over pin themselves. They have been known, atleast mine used to, make pins on pins. 


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: mister]
    #14343120 - 04/24/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Best thing you can do for TC is make a nice and thick sub. set them and forget them. and pray they do not over pin themselves. They have been known, atleast mine used to, make pins on pins. 




Wow that is awesome, I'm workin with Burma and Z right now but haven't made it to fruiting stage quite yet.

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    #14343139 - 04/24/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: zpores]
    #14343144 - 04/24/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

god damn!!!!! i need to start doing agar :frown:(((((((( that is a beast ass pinset and canopy


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    #14343159 - 04/24/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

But when they all grow up you get this....


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14343179 - 04/24/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Congrats on the big tub, I have a few of the larger sterlites (~30 gallon I believe) and they are pretty awesome. Nothing like pulling one dry # from one flush, of one tub, and in my case only using one bag of spawn.




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god damn!!!!! i need to start doing agar :frown:(((((((( that is a beast ass pinset and canopy




All I do is MS>LC>Bags these days and unless something screws up I have full canopies always. Its all about the tub and getting the fae/humidity balance perfect without having to open it too much. You also have to expect the early pinners to finish a day or two before the rest of the canopy matures. The only hard part with a full canopy is picking without totally destroying your sub and bruising the shit out of everything.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: treyute]
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Congrats on the big tub, I have a few of the larger sterlites (~30 gallon I believe) and they are pretty awesome. Nothing like pulling one dry # from one flush, of one tub, and in my case only using one bag of spawn.




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god damn!!!!! i need to start doing agar :frown:(((((((( that is a beast ass pinset and canopy




All I do is MS>LC>Bags these days and unless something screws up I have full canopies always. Its all about the tub and getting the fae/humidity balance perfect without having to open it too much. You also have to expect the early pinners to finish a day or two before the rest of the canopy matures. The only hard part with a full canopy is picking without totally destroying your sub and bruising the shit out of everything.




How long does it take for a LC to colonize 5qts grain?  How much LC are you using?  This is all from MS syringes: no isolate/clone?


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: BargainBab]
    #14344975 - 04/24/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

UPDATES

Smaller Tub
I harvest 4 fruits from this tub yesterday, they were all roughly the same size as the biggest fruit seen in this picture (2 of them were a little smaller,1 might have been bigger)


The 35




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    #14345497 - 04/24/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

looking sick man :awecid:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: redrum187]
    #14345600 - 04/24/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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looking sick man :awecid:




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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: Carl Sagan]
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How long does it take for a LC to colonize 5qts grain?  How much LC are you using?  This is all from MS syringes: no isolate/clone?



I massage at either day 6 or day 7 depending on how they look and they're usually done by day 10-11 and ready at 14. Thats usually, it takes a little while to get the grains right and month long colonization times werent uncommon while I was getting it down. Cool thing was they'd eventually finish even if I did have the grain all wrong they just take longer. I use 30cc LC (LME/DEX on a ghetto stir plate) per bag, any more and I throw off the moisture content and I've noticed lately that 20cc works as well as 30cc most of the time. The bags were the key to tubs for me. You can cook two big ones at a time in a 23 qt presto and its one bag one tub. Much easier to spawn a big ass tub cutting open a bag or two over opening a dozen or more jars. Factor in increased contam risk from all the inoculations of said dozen jars over two bags plus the fact that its just a little hard to keep the lc in your 60cc syringe from all floating to the bottom while doing so many inoculations. I use my jars for LC's and to drink out of these days. Thought about using them for sclerotia but why bother when I have my bag system down so well.
As far as the isolate/clones I've never grown any out in bags because most of my LC work is done pretty open-air so I dont have the means to work with agar to do it right and I never really feel that tissue cuts on grain > glc > lc had a high likelyhood of success either. I'm still a noob in all this really until I build my flowhood. For me having a full canopy has always been about having the fae and humidty right and not about whatever the genetic wheel deals us. Whenever I have holes in my canopy its because water dripped in a certain spot and pooled or some other mistake happened. You also must be patient and let your canopy fill before axing it all, unless you like closed caps in which case chop away, or rip away really.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: treyute]
    #14346842 - 04/25/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That's a big ass tub you have there.
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That's a big ass tub you have there.
keep us updated.

How much grain did you use for the tub?




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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
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:breakdancing:
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    #14354403 - 04/26/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

UPDATES!


the 35 gallon beast.






does it look like low FAE to you? after lightly misting this morning i fanned longer than usual and pulled a little more polyfill out of the holes... lemme know what you think/what i shld do :awethumb:


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    #14354961 - 04/26/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Great job so far, dude! I think that your pinset could use some improvement, but I don't know how you would do that. Hopefully someone more knowledgable will help you to figure it out.

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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: healing]
    #14355113 - 04/26/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Great job so far, dude! I think that your pinset could use some improvement, but I don't know how you would do that. Hopefully someone more knowledgable will help you to figure it out.

Any way: :thumbup: Looking good :smile:




ya, i keep hoping someone comes down with some turbo-epic advice to give me a super pretty pinset....... :Awemazing:... im reasonably happy w what i have going though :awethumb:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: Greenvalley]
    #14355896 - 04/26/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Patience makes the pinset, for me I try not to mist at all. Its all about getting the polyfil and holes right, its really hard to make it too loose and its very easy to see if your sub is drying. My theory on misting + fanning is that every time you fan you are taking humidity out of your tub and misting doesnt add that humidity back, it just adds water to the surfaces that drip and pool and really do no good at all. Its much easier in a clear bin because you can watch the condensation around your holes and stuff or fill without ever having to open the tub. Dont worry about a bad pinset on your first flush as that will probably just mean monsters on your second. Most of the times I have a killer first flush with a dismal second flush but when I have weak first flushes is when the monsters come out on the second flush. The problem with these giant tubs is its really F'ing hard to keep the green away through multiple flushes so its always 2 and done for me.... if I make it through the second flush. Perfect first flushes for me come when I keep a constant eye on those holes and dont open my tubs through the flush.... period.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: treyute]
    #14355929 - 04/26/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Patience makes the pinset, for me I try not to mist at all. Its all about getting the polyfil and holes right, its really hard to make it too loose and its very easy to see if your sub is drying. My theory on misting + fanning is that every time you fan you are taking humidity out of your tub and misting doesnt add that humidity back, it just adds water to the surfaces that drip and pool and really do no good at all. Its much easier in a clear bin because you can watch the condensation around your holes and stuff or fill without ever having to open the tub. Dont worry about a bad pinset on your first flush as that will probably just mean monsters on your second. Most of the times I have a killer first flush with a dismal second flush but when I have weak first flushes is when the monsters come out on the second flush. The problem with these giant tubs is its really F'ing hard to keep the green away through multiple flushes so its always 2 and done for me.... if I make it through the second flush. Perfect first flushes for me come when I keep a constant eye on those holes and dont open my tubs through the flush.... period.




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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: treyute]
    #14355942 - 04/26/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The best way to improve the NEXT tub's pinset is to clone some of those from the first pin groups. If you're doing agar work you can snatch one of those group pins up and throw it straight onto agar, it'll be a myc ball in a few days.

The best way to improve this pinset is to leave it alone. Moisture looks good, pins are coming up and don't look squirrely due to low FAE so I think it's dialed in enough as it stands.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: treyute]
    #14355949 - 04/26/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Also forgot to mention your pinset looks great for this point. They're tall and thin which makes me think low fae/ high CO2 but I've never grown this strain before. For my ~118qt sterlites I use 22 one inch holes. Two on each of the ends and 9 on each side with lots of air circulation in the room along with a coolmist keeping the rh up.


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    #14359066 - 04/27/11 12:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The best way to improve the NEXT tub's pinset is to clone some of those from the first pin groups. If you're doing agar work you can snatch one of those group pins up and throw it straight onto agar, it'll be a myc ball in a few days.

The best way to improve this pinset is to leave it alone. Moisture looks good, pins are coming up and don't look squirrely due to low FAE so I think it's dialed in enough as it stands.




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    #14361627 - 04/27/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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what do you guys things? think I am doing ok? should it be better? ways to improve?


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14361648 - 04/27/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

first off  :mustnotfap:


Maybe more FEA but I dont mess with mono's (do mini shot gun mono's).

It still looks great for a multispore. Next time put a lighter next to something so we can gauge the scale of it


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    #14361822 - 04/27/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

as per requested: sorry the lighter isnt closer to the fruits, i am to scared to sit it directly on the substrate, heh.



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    #14361829 - 04/27/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They growin fast now. They prolly thirsty.


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    #14361833 - 04/27/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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They growin fast now. They prolly thirsty.




suggested remedy? i mist twice a day lightly as is.... should i continue this or do more?


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    #14361876 - 04/27/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

don't do it lightly. looks like it could probably use a heavy misting. It's mid flush.


..assuming there's enough fae to handle a heavy misting...there's always a balance.


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    #14361920 - 04/27/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

kk... just misted really thoroughly (till droplets formed on the substrate, but no pools)


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    #14362026 - 04/27/11 04:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Looking like a great start! :super:

I'm finding that good pinsets take a lot of FAE and not much misting for the 1st few days of fruiting conditions... maybe 1-5. (This is after an initial super-fanning to remove the CO2 buildup from consolidation.) Fanning ends up being a minute or two every few hours or as often as I can. Once primordials start looking more like mushies, and from here on out, I swap the FAE to a low constant with loose poly and I mist as necessary (usually 1 but sometimes 2 per day for my situation), but I try to keep the humidity high during the later stages of fruitbody development. I'm still dialing in the balance of it, but I think I do pretty decent for MS :shrug:

here's a recent CR using this method from a friend of mine.


I'm betting your current project will be a constant wave of "flushes" for the next few weeks all over the tub. A good dunk is going to be difficult, but with some helping hands you should be able to pull off something like Wronguy mentions here.

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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: Primal Call]
    #14362167 - 04/27/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ya... im already scared to dunk it @_@ will probably just gently pour a few cups of water on it, let it soak up what it can, then gently pour the excess out..... gonna be super tricky


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    #14364661 - 04/28/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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as per requested: sorry the lighter isnt closer to the fruits, i am to scared to sit it directly on the substrate, heh.






i wouldnt worry about it. the sub is going to be pretty resistant to contams. just got my freebie from sporeworks, TC!


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    #14366588 - 04/28/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

updates.....



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    #14366598 - 04/28/11 12:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Good work. I generally don't like working with tubs past the 18 gallon mark. They're just too large and wielding.I also worry about them not colonizing properly. I'm pretty cheap on the spawn though.


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    #14366604 - 04/28/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Good work. I generally don't like working with tubs past the 18 gallon mark. They're just too large and wielding.I also worry about them not colonizing properly. I'm pretty cheap on the spawn though.




i only used 8 quarts of colonized rye for this whole tub, and the substrate cost me approx ... 7, 8 bucks? if that?


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Good work. I generally don't like working with tubs past the 18 gallon mark. They're just too large and wielding.I also worry about them not colonizing properly. I'm pretty cheap on the spawn though.




i only used 8 quarts of colonized rye for this whole tub, and the substrate cost me approx ... 7, 8 bucks? if that?



Rye is fucking expensive where I live. I pay something like 3 dollars for something under a pound. It's bull shit. I use 3 quarts for every brick of coco-coir. It's works fine every time.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: ronjohn7779]
    #14366667 - 04/28/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Good work. I generally don't like working with tubs past the 18 gallon mark. They're just too large and wielding.I also worry about them not colonizing properly. I'm pretty cheap on the spawn though.




i only used 8 quarts of colonized rye for this whole tub, and the substrate cost me approx ... 7, 8 bucks? if that?



Rye is fucking expensive where I live. I pay something like 3 dollars for something under a pound. It's bull shit. I use 3 quarts for every brick of coco-coir. It's works fine every time.




ouch mane.

no livestock feed stores around?


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Good work. I generally don't like working with tubs past the 18 gallon mark. They're just too large and wielding.I also worry about them not colonizing properly. I'm pretty cheap on the spawn though.




i only used 8 quarts of colonized rye for this whole tub, and the substrate cost me approx ... 7, 8 bucks? if that?



Rye is fucking expensive where I live. I pay something like 3 dollars for something under a pound. It's bull shit. I use 3 quarts for every brick of coco-coir. It's works fine every time.




ouch mane.

no livestock feed stores around?



Nope I live in a major city the closest ones are 60-100 miles away or more. I have to buy the little packs of rye berry (which are a pain in the ass to find).


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    #14366692 - 04/28/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

.... 97 cents a pound last i bought... is not to bad


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: ronjohn7779]
    #14366693 - 04/28/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Have you tired WBS? like 11 bucks 20lb bag works a bit differently but still works


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    #14366694 - 04/28/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

before i found my feed store i got it at a whole foods by the pound for like 1.90

now its 50 pounds for 16.50 <.<


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    #14366706 - 04/28/11 12:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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before i found my feed store i got it at a whole foods by the pound for like 1.90

now its 50 pounds for 16.50 <.<




ya, i hear talk of somewhere around here that has similar prices to that.... i gotta find this place


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    #14366717 - 04/28/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Have you tired WBS? like 11 bucks 20lb bag works a bit differently but still works



Jealous. Seriously my largest costs are rye berries. I think last time I bought them I bought enough for 9-12 tubs it was 70-80 bucks. I could only find them in one store in a 20 mile radius...Bull shit I say. I generally like working with rye berries so I pay out of the ass. It's a small cost to pay when you consider the rewards of growing in terms of volume you get out of the berries.


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    #14366814 - 04/28/11 12:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

maenards has wbs for half that. 40 pound bags for 11 or 12 bucks. Which is still slightly cheaper than 50 pounds of rye for 16.5. After accounting for the chaff in the wbs, I'd say it works out to the same. Somewhere in the vicinity of 28-33 cents a pound.

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    #14366861 - 04/28/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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maenards has wbs for half that. 40 pound bags for 11 or 12 bucks. Which is still slightly cheaper than 50 pounds of rye for 16.5. After accounting for the chaff in the wbs, I'd say it works out to the same. Somewhere in the vicinity of 28-33 cents a pound.

I've become a big fan of maenards cheap wbs.



I'm not a fan of wbs. 40 lbs is a lot more then I get/need. WBS is just too dirty to work with. I also like the small rye berries since they have a large surface area for MYC to grow on. 3 quarts of that stuff is pretty potent.

I will say I do pay a premium for Rye Berries where I live but at least I don't have to spend a crap load of time cleaning them. These are food grade rye berries so they are pretty much clean when you get them. They're also organic and allegedly chemical free (which I don't believe). There isn't a really good way to commercially grow anything without pesticides in the outdoors.


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    #14366999 - 04/28/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I get rye for $1.05 per lb...and coir for $2.19 per pound brick.


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    #14368693 - 04/28/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i just pay 10 dollars for a 20lb bag of WBS. a few months ago the very same bags were 7.99

3 weeks ago i bought these for 3.49 each. now its 4.20. cant beat that price for 3 bricks!!

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    #14368729 - 04/28/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah wbs price varies a lot by season. when they start making room for holiday shit they give out 20 pound bags for 3.33 at Ace. can't beat it.


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    #14368740 - 04/28/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I can't help but wonder if a couple more holes would help, just due to the sheer size of the tub?


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    #14369840 - 04/28/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

UPDATES

So I decided to do a mini harvest because a few of them were dropping some spores... I picked only the ones I deemed ready (and a few that stuck to the ones I wanted).

here is a pick pre mini-harvest


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    #14369928 - 04/28/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

those look yummy, nice grow:thumbup:


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    #14369946 - 04/28/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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    #14369951 - 04/28/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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    #14370219 - 04/28/11 11:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Those sure are some skinny stems on those. Are they getting enough FAE?


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    #14370230 - 04/28/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

gonna guess an oz even.:rockon:

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Those sure are some skinny stems on those. Are they getting enough FAE?




i was thinking the same thing... i have a box fan on medium pointed kind of towards the tub.... its about 5-6 feet away... and i open it up atleast 2-4 times a day to manually fan and mist...... moar u think?


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: fbi365]
    #14371461 - 04/29/11 07:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

next time, pull all of the poly out of the bottom holes. the constant fae will do wonders. also, with a tub that big, don't bother dunking. just start spraying 3-4 times a day for 2-3 days and you will get the same results without exposing your block of myc to all of those nasty kitchen/bathroom yuckies.

also, next time, i'd go with twice as many holes, half that size all over the tote. the whole poly thing is old school and doesnt help release NEARLY enough co2. constant fae and misting FTW!


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: apoonanor]
    #14371644 - 04/29/11 08:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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also, next time, i'd go with twice as many holes, half that size all over the tote. the whole poly thing is old school and doesnt help release NEARLY enough co2. constant fae and misting FTW!





Not that old school. It's still the paradigm actually. You just need an electric fan going to push some air thru the poly.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: anonjon]
    #14372006 - 04/29/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I agree ... not that 'old school'.

I use polyfill as a filter to keep stuff .. even critters out of my tubs.

Fungus gnats, slugs ... even had little rats push the polyfill into the tub and climb inside for a snack (no rats in the house .. I'm fruiting outside)

When I fruit, the polyfill is either pulled for maximun FAE, or in really loose as a 'filter'.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: uncle_rico]
    #14372306 - 04/29/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I only have 4 large wholes on each side of my monotubs (2x2 squares). I've never had any issues with FAE.I just loosen up the pollyfil during fruiting is all.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: ronjohn7779]
    #14372325 - 04/29/11 12:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

total dry weight of the partial harvest shown above was 24 grams.... picked about 3/4 more of it today..... will keep posted about weight... anticipating the first flush to be done in 1-2 more days... pics will come when i get my lazy ass to the battery store.

judging by what has been harvested/dried so far, what is drying now, and what is yet to come, i am anticipating 4-6 ounces dry for the first flush...... im reasonably happy :awethumb:


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14372344 - 04/29/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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total dry weight of the partial harvest shown above was 24 grams.... picked about 3/4 more of it today..... will keep posted about weight... anticipating the first flush to be done in 1-2 more days... pics will come when i get my lazy ass to the battery store.

judging by what has been harvested/dried so far, what is drying now, and what is yet to come, i am anticipating 4-6 ounces dry for the first flush...... im reasonably happy :awethumb:



A 36 gal tub should net you at least 8-16 oz dry at the minimum. I get 4-6 oz off of my 18 gal tubs (I grow PE and thats a low yielder). I'm betting your tub will continuously fruit over a 2-4 week period. I.E. you'll have an extend/long first flush. That pretty normal for Multispore injects and some clone based injects.

With most multispore injection based harvests I've had I'll pick some fruits only to discover more are growing in their place.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: ronjohn7779]
    #14372351 - 04/29/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

there are def still lots of little pins..... the only reason the weights are so low is the really thing fruits and small caps... idk if this is a regular trait of TC (low weight fruits) but when i grew Koh Samui i had single fruits that weighed as much as a handful of these guys....

also, im still really new to this stuff.... ive only got a couple of grows under my belt


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14372374 - 04/29/11 12:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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there are def still lots of little pins..... the only reason the weights are so low is the really thing fruits and small caps... idk if this is a regular trait of TC (low weight fruits) but when i grew Koh Samui i had single fruits that weighed as much as a handful of these guys....

also, im still really new to this stuff.... ive only got a couple of grows under my belt



Trust me you'll end up with more then 4-6 oz. Especially if you have more pins. Even as a newbi your sub is fruiting. You've won 90% of the battle now. There isn't much variation you can do to increase yields aside from what your doing now. Growing mushrooms isn't highly complex like growing pot. Mushroom growing is way more dependent on genetics, then it is on the environment. So long as you create a fruitful environment you'll typically have a crap load of mushrooms. I've neglected tubs for weeks before only to find I had several oz in them. If you're at least trying hard to have a successful harvest and all has gone well then you'll most likely have a successful harvest. At this point all you need is high RH and a lot of FAE to succeed.


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: ronjohn7779]
    #14372388 - 04/29/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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there are def still lots of little pins..... the only reason the weights are so low is the really thing fruits and small caps... idk if this is a regular trait of TC (low weight fruits) but when i grew Koh Samui i had single fruits that weighed as much as a handful of these guys....

also, im still really new to this stuff.... ive only got a couple of grows under my belt



Trust me you'll end up with more then 4-6 oz. Especially if you have more pins. Even as a newbi your sub is fruiting. You've won 90% of the battle now. There isn't much variation you can do to increase yields aside from what your doing now. Growing mushrooms isn't highly complex like growing pot. Mushroom growing is way more dependent on genetics, then it is on the environment. So long as you create a fruitful environment you'll typically have a crap load of mushrooms. I've neglected tubs for weeks before only to find I had several oz in them. If you're at least trying hard to have a successful harvest and all has gone well then you'll most likely have a successful harvest. At this point all you need is high RH and a lot of FAE to succeed.




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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: fbi365]
    #14372391 - 04/29/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I can't help but wonder if a couple more holes would help, just due to the sheer size of the tub?




Dudes?




sorry, got sidetracked and didnt respond.... im going to add more holes to it before i spawn it again... but in mid fruit i wouldnt dare drill holes..... too nervous


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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14374167 - 04/29/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You can accomplish a lot for fae by improving the air circulation around the outside of the tub as well.


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