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mistahad
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: treyute]
#14346842 - 04/25/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's a big ass tub you have there. keep us updated.
How much grain did you use for the tub?
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: mistahad]
#14348403 - 04/25/11 10:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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mistahad said: That's a big ass tub you have there. keep us updated.
How much grain did you use for the tub?
i used 8 quarts of spawn and like 20-24 quarts of substrate i think... not 100% sure on that, but its alreast rly close to the truth
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trekie
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 looking great man.
I wanna keep my eye on this thread
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: trekie]
#14354403 - 04/26/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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UPDATES!
the 35 gallon beast.





does it look like low FAE to you? after lightly misting this morning i fanned longer than usual and pulled a little more polyfill out of the holes... lemme know what you think/what i shld do
Edited by stranger_danger (04/26/11 10:29 AM)
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Great job so far, dude! I think that your pinset could use some improvement, but I don't know how you would do that. Hopefully someone more knowledgable will help you to figure it out.
Any way: Looking good
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: healing]
#14355113 - 04/26/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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healing said: Great job so far, dude! I think that your pinset could use some improvement, but I don't know how you would do that. Hopefully someone more knowledgable will help you to figure it out.
Any way: Looking good 
ya, i keep hoping someone comes down with some turbo-epic advice to give me a super pretty pinset....... ... im reasonably happy w what i have going though
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Patience makes the pinset, for me I try not to mist at all. Its all about getting the polyfil and holes right, its really hard to make it too loose and its very easy to see if your sub is drying. My theory on misting + fanning is that every time you fan you are taking humidity out of your tub and misting doesnt add that humidity back, it just adds water to the surfaces that drip and pool and really do no good at all. Its much easier in a clear bin because you can watch the condensation around your holes and stuff or fill without ever having to open the tub. Dont worry about a bad pinset on your first flush as that will probably just mean monsters on your second. Most of the times I have a killer first flush with a dismal second flush but when I have weak first flushes is when the monsters come out on the second flush. The problem with these giant tubs is its really F'ing hard to keep the green away through multiple flushes so its always 2 and done for me.... if I make it through the second flush. Perfect first flushes for me come when I keep a constant eye on those holes and dont open my tubs through the flush.... period.
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: treyute]
#14355929 - 04/26/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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treyute said: Patience makes the pinset, for me I try not to mist at all. Its all about getting the polyfil and holes right, its really hard to make it too loose and its very easy to see if your sub is drying. My theory on misting + fanning is that every time you fan you are taking humidity out of your tub and misting doesnt add that humidity back, it just adds water to the surfaces that drip and pool and really do no good at all. Its much easier in a clear bin because you can watch the condensation around your holes and stuff or fill without ever having to open the tub. Dont worry about a bad pinset on your first flush as that will probably just mean monsters on your second. Most of the times I have a killer first flush with a dismal second flush but when I have weak first flushes is when the monsters come out on the second flush. The problem with these giant tubs is its really F'ing hard to keep the green away through multiple flushes so its always 2 and done for me.... if I make it through the second flush. Perfect first flushes for me come when I keep a constant eye on those holes and dont open my tubs through the flush.... period.
I'm going to turn this into bullets to make sure I understand.
-No misting -No fanning -Polyfill as loose as possible -Don't fuck with it
Sound right?
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: treyute]
#14355942 - 04/26/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The best way to improve the NEXT tub's pinset is to clone some of those from the first pin groups. If you're doing agar work you can snatch one of those group pins up and throw it straight onto agar, it'll be a myc ball in a few days.
The best way to improve this pinset is to leave it alone. Moisture looks good, pins are coming up and don't look squirrely due to low FAE so I think it's dialed in enough as it stands.
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: treyute]
#14355949 - 04/26/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Also forgot to mention your pinset looks great for this point. They're tall and thin which makes me think low fae/ high CO2 but I've never grown this strain before. For my ~118qt sterlites I use 22 one inch holes. Two on each of the ends and 9 on each side with lots of air circulation in the room along with a coolmist keeping the rh up.
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afrosheen said: The best way to improve the NEXT tub's pinset is to clone some of those from the first pin groups. If you're doing agar work you can snatch one of those group pins up and throw it straight onto agar, it'll be a myc ball in a few days.
The best way to improve this pinset is to leave it alone. Moisture looks good, pins are coming up and don't look squirrely due to low FAE so I think it's dialed in enough as it stands.
i need to start doing agar, but sadly im nervous.... got a friend that is supposed to help me soon though.
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what do you guys things? think I am doing ok? should it be better? ways to improve?
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trekie
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first off
Maybe more FEA but I dont mess with mono's (do mini shot gun mono's).
It still looks great for a multispore. Next time put a lighter next to something so we can gauge the scale of it
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: trekie]
#14361822 - 04/27/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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as per requested: sorry the lighter isnt closer to the fruits, i am to scared to sit it directly on the substrate, heh.
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: trekie]
#14361829 - 04/27/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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They growin fast now. They prolly thirsty.
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: anonjon]
#14361833 - 04/27/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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anonjon said: They growin fast now. They prolly thirsty.
suggested remedy? i mist twice a day lightly as is.... should i continue this or do more?
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anonjon
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don't do it lightly. looks like it could probably use a heavy misting. It's mid flush.
..assuming there's enough fae to handle a heavy misting...there's always a balance.
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Edited by anonjon (04/27/11 03:58 PM)
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: anonjon]
#14361920 - 04/27/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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kk... just misted really thoroughly (till droplets formed on the substrate, but no pools)
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Looking like a great start! 
I'm finding that good pinsets take a lot of FAE and not much misting for the 1st few days of fruiting conditions... maybe 1-5. (This is after an initial super-fanning to remove the CO2 buildup from consolidation.) Fanning ends up being a minute or two every few hours or as often as I can. Once primordials start looking more like mushies, and from here on out, I swap the FAE to a low constant with loose poly and I mist as necessary (usually 1 but sometimes 2 per day for my situation), but I try to keep the humidity high during the later stages of fruitbody development. I'm still dialing in the balance of it, but I think I do pretty decent for MS 
here's a recent CR using this method from a friend of mine.
 
I'm betting your current project will be a constant wave of "flushes" for the next few weeks all over the tub. A good dunk is going to be difficult, but with some helping hands you should be able to pull off something like Wronguy mentions here.
enjoy!
Edited by Primal Call (04/27/11 07:24 PM)
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