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just me
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: healing]
#14340918 - 04/23/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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stranger_danger what did you do to increase FAE in the 35gal tub? i was going to suggest either bigger holes, or loosen up your polyfil a little
fanning whilst colonizing has always scared me, the way a casing scares you and dont dab myc piss with a paper towell...im sure we've all done it, but shouldnt be regularly practiced right?
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: just me]
#14341083 - 04/23/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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just me said: stranger_danger what did you do to increase FAE in the 35gal tub? i was going to suggest either bigger holes, or loosen up your polyfil a little
fanning whilst colonizing has always scared me, the way a casing scares you and dont dab myc piss with a paper towell...im sure we've all done it, but shouldnt be regularly practiced right?
I have a box fan about 6-8 feet from the big tub pointed slightly off the side that runs on low all day. i just took some polyfill out of each hole (about 1/3 of it) and let it do its thing.... i count around 75 pins in it so far 
also.... picked 4 mushrooms from the small tub today... all together they weigh 40.32 grams wet... picked off the 4 caps (even though there are tiny caps) and set em up to print tonight
 Plan on continuing to do this with the entire flush from the smaller tub. If anyone would like a TC print I would be glad to send a few out... especially if you want to trade me another active print (u dont have to tho, i cld send a few out as freebies too )
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Next time you print, make sure the caps have flattened out a little bit more.
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: healing]
#14342762 - 04/24/11 09:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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healing said: Next time you print, make sure the caps have flattened out a little bit more.
the veils were totally torn off and had been that way for 2 hours or more.... i didnt want to risk them dropping their spores early
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healing said: Next time you print, make sure the caps have flattened out a little bit more.
the veils were totally torn off and had been that way for 2 hours or more.... i didnt want to risk them dropping their spores early
They have plenty of spores to drop, even if you catch them somewhat late as they flatten, you'll get decent prints.
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healing said: Next time you print, make sure the caps have flattened out a little bit more.
the veils were totally torn off and had been that way for 2 hours or more.... i didnt want to risk them dropping their spores early
They have plenty of spores to drop, even if you catch them somewhat late as they flatten, you'll get decent prints.
so then why does them being flat matter? wont they drop the same amount of spores, just in a smaller circle? they will all just get scraped into a jar with water and sucked into a syringe anyways :-P
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You want the caps to drop spores quickly (flattened and drying). If you have to wait very long (say, over 12 hrs, there is a chance the cap will start getting funky, slimey and then you can get bacteria on your prints.


everything is looking good on your project. nice
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the pic in my sig on the left is THE TC after some years of agar. they are powerful.
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: mister]
#14343106 - 04/24/11 11:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Best thing you can do for TC is make a nice and thick sub. set them and forget them. and pray they do not over pin themselves. They have been known, atleast mine used to, make pins on pins.
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: mister]
#14343120 - 04/24/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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mister said: Best thing you can do for TC is make a nice and thick sub. set them and forget them. and pray they do not over pin themselves. They have been known, atleast mine used to, make pins on pins. 
Wow that is awesome, I'm workin with Burma and Z right now but haven't made it to fruiting stage quite yet.
Lookin forward to seeing that 35 gallon flush!
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: zpores]
#14343139 - 04/24/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looking good... sweet print pics rico...
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: zpores]
#14343144 - 04/24/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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god damn!!!!! i need to start doing agar (((((((( that is a beast ass pinset and canopy
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: zpores]
#14343159 - 04/24/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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But when they all grow up you get this....
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Congrats on the big tub, I have a few of the larger sterlites (~30 gallon I believe) and they are pretty awesome. Nothing like pulling one dry # from one flush, of one tub, and in my case only using one bag of spawn.
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stranger_danger said: god damn!!!!! i need to start doing agar (((((((( that is a beast ass pinset and canopy
All I do is MS>LC>Bags these days and unless something screws up I have full canopies always. Its all about the tub and getting the fae/humidity balance perfect without having to open it too much. You also have to expect the early pinners to finish a day or two before the rest of the canopy matures. The only hard part with a full canopy is picking without totally destroying your sub and bruising the shit out of everything.
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Re: 35 GALLON tub [Re: treyute]
#14343427 - 04/24/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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treyute said: Congrats on the big tub, I have a few of the larger sterlites (~30 gallon I believe) and they are pretty awesome. Nothing like pulling one dry # from one flush, of one tub, and in my case only using one bag of spawn.
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stranger_danger said: god damn!!!!! i need to start doing agar (((((((( that is a beast ass pinset and canopy
All I do is MS>LC>Bags these days and unless something screws up I have full canopies always. Its all about the tub and getting the fae/humidity balance perfect without having to open it too much. You also have to expect the early pinners to finish a day or two before the rest of the canopy matures. The only hard part with a full canopy is picking without totally destroying your sub and bruising the shit out of everything.
How long does it take for a LC to colonize 5qts grain? How much LC are you using? This is all from MS syringes: no isolate/clone?
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Keep up the good work!
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UPDATES
Smaller Tub I harvest 4 fruits from this tub yesterday, they were all roughly the same size as the biggest fruit seen in this picture (2 of them were a little smaller,1 might have been bigger)

The 35



there are more pins than are clearly shown in these pics, but these are the biggest/strongest looking clusters
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looking sick man
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stranger_danger
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redrum187 said: looking sick man 
ja ja... u better come up here before i eat them all @_@
also, passed u in posts :-P noobcakes
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How long does it take for a LC to colonize 5qts grain? How much LC are you using? This is all from MS syringes: no isolate/clone?
I massage at either day 6 or day 7 depending on how they look and they're usually done by day 10-11 and ready at 14. Thats usually, it takes a little while to get the grains right and month long colonization times werent uncommon while I was getting it down. Cool thing was they'd eventually finish even if I did have the grain all wrong they just take longer. I use 30cc LC (LME/DEX on a ghetto stir plate) per bag, any more and I throw off the moisture content and I've noticed lately that 20cc works as well as 30cc most of the time. The bags were the key to tubs for me. You can cook two big ones at a time in a 23 qt presto and its one bag one tub. Much easier to spawn a big ass tub cutting open a bag or two over opening a dozen or more jars. Factor in increased contam risk from all the inoculations of said dozen jars over two bags plus the fact that its just a little hard to keep the lc in your 60cc syringe from all floating to the bottom while doing so many inoculations. I use my jars for LC's and to drink out of these days. Thought about using them for sclerotia but why bother when I have my bag system down so well. As far as the isolate/clones I've never grown any out in bags because most of my LC work is done pretty open-air so I dont have the means to work with agar to do it right and I never really feel that tissue cuts on grain > glc > lc had a high likelyhood of success either. I'm still a noob in all this really until I build my flowhood. For me having a full canopy has always been about having the fae and humidty right and not about whatever the genetic wheel deals us. Whenever I have holes in my canopy its because water dripped in a certain spot and pooled or some other mistake happened. You also must be patient and let your canopy fill before axing it all, unless you like closed caps in which case chop away, or rip away really.
Sorry for the threadjack OP, my mind tends to wander sometimes.
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