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grizzlynick
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JOE MOLLOY is right
#14313228 - 04/18/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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all that nonsense about how psychedelics make you enter a new dimension is bullshit. all It does is cause you to think in a new perspective and make you think without ego. thats all it does. and its silly to think that way. I cant stand all you people and your crazy theories, and stories. they just fuck you up, thats it. BUT THEY ARE STILL AWESOME!!!
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grizzlynick
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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: FleshCap]
#14313265 - 04/18/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If I believed 2+2=5 it does not mean im right
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it doesn't mean you're wrong either
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grizzlynick
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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: I AM SWIM]
#14313278 - 04/18/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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please explain
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bholzer
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Everything, including reality, is experienced in your mind. Psychedelics cause your mind to think in a much different way, and it can be come reality to the user. Yes, things experienced while tripping aren't really happening in the sense that people around aren't seeing it and such, but while i'm tripping, it is real to me. And I know that it was all a sort of dream. But that doesn't make it not real.
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Luman
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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: bholzer] 4
#14313367 - 04/18/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Who in the fuck actually believes that psychedelics "take you to another dimension"? I have not seen such ridiculous ideas honestly believed in in some time. I don't think that we need to be told what we already know, OP. Over. And over. And over. From one Joe Molloy thread to the next. Jesus fucking Christ. Stop worshiping this prick. And stop making the same goddamn threads about him!
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grizzlynick said: please explain
Sure,
Those are numbers, but they are symbols as well, and it all depends on what values you apply to those symbols.
2+2=5 could be true depending on the axiom.
Either way, a shift in a dimension causes a shift in perspective. How would you know what a higher dimension would be like if you are stuck in a lower dimension of a hierarchical dimensional structure?
You wouldn't know; you could experience it, but you wouldn't be able to describe or comprehend the experience if you returned back to your previous lower dimension.
IDK if DMT sends me into another dimension, or if it's just my own mind that is doing all of it. Regardless, nobody knows, and nobody will ever know unless there is a universal dimensional paradigm shift; where we advance up to a new dimension and live in the 5th. Then we would be able to comprehend TIME.
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floatingwater
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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right
Same as any leader ever known to history... man they are all right
Too many rights
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DesignatedTripper
Drop Lsd, Set your mind free.


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I agree that all this "another dimension" talk is bullshit, because it is just our brain chemistry changing making us feel like we are in another dimension, and makes us look more into our subconscious. However, I also think that the experiences we go through while on these drugs can be of value to us, as they can bring to the surface problems we did not know existed. They aren't to be used as a tool to look at other dimensions, they should be used as a way of looking at ourselves through a new point of view.
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Led Zeppelin
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DesignatedTripper said: I agree that all this "another dimension" talk is bullshit, because it is just our brain chemistry changing making us feel like we are in another dimension, and makes us look more into our subconscious. However, I also think that the experiences we go through while on these drugs can be of value to us, as they can bring to the surface problems we did not know existed. They aren't to be used as a tool to look at other dimensions, they should be used as a way of looking at ourselves through a new point of view.
best fucking quote from a noob on the forums
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bholzer
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Led Zeppelin said:
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DesignatedTripper said: I agree that all this "another dimension" talk is bullshit, because it is just our brain chemistry changing making us feel like we are in another dimension, and makes us look more into our subconscious. However, I also think that the experiences we go through while on these drugs can be of value to us, as they can bring to the surface problems we did not know existed. They aren't to be used as a tool to look at other dimensions, they should be used as a way of looking at ourselves through a new point of view.
best fucking quote from a noob on the forums
Seriously. Certainly not bad for a 14th post.
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DesignatedTripper
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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: bholzer]
#14313820 - 04/18/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Led Zeppelin said:
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DesignatedTripper said: I agree that all this "another dimension" talk is bullshit, because it is just our brain chemistry changing making us feel like we are in another dimension, and makes us look more into our subconscious. However, I also think that the experiences we go through while on these drugs can be of value to us, as they can bring to the surface problems we did not know existed. They aren't to be used as a tool to look at other dimensions, they should be used as a way of looking at ourselves through a new point of view.
best fucking quote from a noob on the forums
Seriously. Certainly not bad for a 14th post.
Thanks guys, I have been reading a lot about LSD and mushrooms on these forums and other ones before even posting here, I mean you can't just go into using any substance without research first, right? After my first couple experiences I decided to add to the community! Happy tripping.
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OP fuck you for this thread. Fuck the joe cult. Fuck the people who don't think for them selves. Fuck everyone who believes in the mysticism too much and fuck the plain out skeptics like joe. Your all fucking wrong for choosing a side. Like knowing the truth is that simple.
I sit in the middle. Its for people with common sense. Humble your self and admit that you don't know what's tangible in this reality to the one in fucking hyperspace because you don't. You think. Joe thinks. The batshit loopy suburban shaman thinks. We all think and lately our thoughts have turned this fourm into bullshit.
The middle is wonderment. A place where you understand shits so far beyond human comprehension its silly to try and put your finger on what life really is. Quit trying to fucking state and proclaim you know anything. None of you do. I like to enjoy the mystery, if someone believes something. Good for them, but the behavior over opinions in this fourm has escalated into bulllllllllshiiiiiittttttttt.
"Imagination is more important then knoweldge" - Einstein.
I wonder why he thought that.
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grizzlynick said: If I believed 2+2=5 it does not mean im right
2 + 2 = 5. In terms of philosophy, what does that mean? In your own mind, anything could be the truth to yourself. Yes, people will reject it and call you wrong. But if you truly believe something will all of your heart, then it IS a truth to you.
Just think about Santa. I believed in Santa hardcore for a while. It was the reality in my mind. And although people later told me I was wrong, it was still a truth in my mind.
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bholzer
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DesignatedTripper said: Thanks guys, I have been reading a lot about LSD and mushrooms on these forums and other ones before even posting here, I mean you can't just go into using any substance without research first, right? After my first couple experiences I decided to add to the community! Happy tripping.
Sounds like you're going about it exactly as you should. Always do your research.
And I can tell you the shroomery is one of the best places to do that research.
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DesignatedTripper
Drop Lsd, Set your mind free.


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AbstraKt_I_Am said: OP fuck you for this thread. Fuck the joe cult. Fuck the people who don't think for them selves. Fuck everyone who believes in the mysticism too much and fuck the plain out skeptics like joe. Your all fucking wrong for choosing a side. Like knowing the truth is that simple.
I sit in the middle. Its for people with common sense. Humble your self and admit that you don't know what's tangible in this reality to the one in fucking hyperspace because you don't. You think. Joe thinks. The batshit loopy suburban shaman thinks. We all think and lately our thoughts have turned this fourm into bullshit.
The middle is wonderment. A place where you understand shits so far beyond human comprehension its silly to try and put your finger on what life really is. Quit trying to fucking state and proclaim you know anything. None of you do. I like to enjoy the mystery, if someone believes something. Good for them, but the behavior over opinions in this fourm has escalated into bulllllllllshiiiiiittttttttt.
"Imagination is more important then knoweldge" - Einstein.
I wonder why he thought that.
Dude, you're being just as bad as them, you just got to chill out and state your opinion but don't be so intrusive of others, they can believe what they want, as long as it isn't affecting you, why get mad?
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Led Zeppelin
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joe rogan vs joe molloy
lets do it
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DesignatedTripper
Drop Lsd, Set your mind free.


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Led Zeppelin said: joe rogan vs joe molloy
lets do it
Agreed.
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AbstraKt_I_Am


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DesignatedTripper said:
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bholzer said:
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DesignatedTripper said: I agree that all this "another dimension" talk is bullshit, because it is just our brain chemistry changing making us feel like we are in another dimension, and makes us look more into our subconscious. However, I also think that the experiences we go through while on these drugs can be of value to us, as they can bring to the surface problems we did not know existed. They aren't to be used as a tool to look at other dimensions, they should be used as a way of looking at ourselves through a new point of view.
best fucking quote from a noob on the forums
Seriously. Certainly not bad for a 14th post.
Thanks guys, I have been reading a lot about LSD and mushrooms on these forums and other ones before even posting here, I mean you can't just go into using any substance without research first, right? After my first couple experiences I decided to add to the community! Happy tripping.
First couple experiences and you found the real deal. Joe found it. Me the more I trip I realise the less I know. I guess that's what happens when you don't try to give an answer for the experience. Because you can't. You could right me a 10000 page summary on what life is. Terence mckenna could do the same for the tripping perspective... but when I read it and others do. They'd realise any mere humans interepration on both is crockshit. Because its too big for you to understand. Soberly think about what words are what they do.. read some physics books and you'd know if our bodys vibrated fast enough we could pass through solids like brick walls... but noooo that's gotta be Impossible.. yet you do it on psychs.
Steven hawking said something along the lines.. as far was we can fathom the univesre could lay on an upside down tortoise. Damn that's a rashional humble input. Something I have seen much on here. Just shit flinging rhetoric opinons like a 13 year old debate club.
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