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P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully
    #14313390 - 04/18/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Psylocibe Australiana? or Psilocybe Subaeruginosa?

Habitat:
Found in A.C.T in my backyard in the compost heap.

Gills:
off white/ brown colour
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2 - 6 cm long, white, hollow.

Cap:
dark brown to light brown convex gills .

Spore print color:
taking spore prints now

Bruising:
a few of them have bruised blue, and the mycelium underneath the bark where they were growing was blue

Other information:
smells like subs Ive picked before but just don't quite look the same,
and were found where i normally discard them after making tea's.


Pictures; not the best quality because its foggy outside and had to take them inside, but someone else pick them and kept ripping out the mycelium so i took a photo of the one that had blueish mycelium,
as the day starts to look better i will upload pictures of the pins, if anyone wants to see them, they look just like P. Subs



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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14313589 - 04/18/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It actually looks a little like P. cubensis, but more pictures would help, especially of the stem and underside of the mushroom.

They are probably P. subaeruginosa and definitely an active Psilocybe.


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #14313948 - 04/18/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



Few more pictures, im still letting the caps sit on some paper to get some more distinct spore prints, but spores are definitely a light purple/ light brown colour

But those few pics, are of close ups of the stems, and a picture of a pin just to show the blue bruising, and where they are growing, do cubensis grow on wood-chips? because i thought they liked to fecal matter...


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14313982 - 04/18/11 09:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I say subs =D

Wash all that composty material off before you put it in your gob :P


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14314070 - 04/18/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well i have now 100g wet, if i leave pins there will they keep growing? or is that just wishful thinking :p

and there is alot of wood-chip with obvious mycelium growth on it, if i put that in a fish tank with some moist wood-chips do you think that will sprout?

more pictures of the stem, i just thought it would be way to early for subs to be growing in Canberra....



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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14314084 - 04/18/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They're subs for sure. Pins will keep growing if you leave them.


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: user1837483975]
    #14314103 - 04/18/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

damn that's lucky, kinda funny though because i went up to the mountains last weekend and found about 20g, and alot of allready picked stems, i think i will have to find a new place to go looking.


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14314159 - 04/18/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I saw quite a few kids out in the brindies on sunday most likely hunting for shrooms - I think I'm going to go further up next time.


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: user1837483975]
    #14314336 - 04/18/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i know that alot of Amanita Muscaria are out in Canberra, but it seems im the only one out of my group of friends that enjoys there effects


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14315114 - 04/19/11 12:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

is there anything i can do with the spore prints other than look at them under a microscope? apparently these woodloving types are hard to cultivate.


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14315243 - 04/19/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

doesn't look like subbs to me. I think Alan's ID-estimate is more likely


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: davide]
    #14315248 - 04/19/11 01:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

but wouldnt it be too cold for Cubes in canberra? thats whi i thought maybe P. Australiana because they are very similar to subs...


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14315252 - 04/19/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

oops disregard my post subbs means something else up here :smile:


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: davide]
    #14315271 - 04/19/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You can start patches with prints :smile:
Just test this: mix some with water and spray in likly places, allthough they won't grow to net season if at all :/


Or you can send me one.... :laugh: I'm in Aus too :laugh: would be great :thumbup:


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: Locky]
    #14315273 - 04/19/11 01:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Not cubes, awesome sub's :thumbup:


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: Locky]
    #14315308 - 04/19/11 01:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

how would i send it to you? just in the mail?

and it is just on a brown paper bag, i was thinking i could just bury the bag under some woodchips somewhere and hope for the best.


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14315324 - 04/19/11 01:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No no no dont bury it probably won't work..
You could follow one of many woodlover teks you can find here at the shroomery..


Sending is no prob :smile:. Spores are 100% legal here in aus, it's great! :smile:
Next time take the spores on foil or paper, it's easier to see colour. Easier to id...


I will pm you if you want to send :smile:


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14315687 - 04/19/11 04:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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but wouldnt it be too cold for Cubes in canberra? thats whi i thought maybe P. Australiana because they are very similar to subs...





P. australiana and P.subaeruginosa are one and the same species.

P. australiana and P. eucalypta are depreciated synonyms, meaning the names aren't considered valid anymore.

You're mushrooms are Psilocybe subaeruginosa


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: karode13]
    #14315733 - 04/19/11 05:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

haha oh ok, thanks for that bit of useful knowledge, I'm going to try put some of the mycelium in a container and keep it moist and round 15 degrees and see if i can get any luck, or maybe I'm just pushing the luck haha


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    #14315735 - 04/19/11 05:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think you should make some colonized woodshaving spawn and make some wicked patches :thumbup:


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: Locky]
    #14315746 - 04/19/11 05:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah then spread the joy,

I'm going up to the mountains this weekend. So I guess if I find nothing I can drop some off there and hope for the best haha


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    #14315756 - 04/19/11 05:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah :smile:

But I'm sure you'll find heaps :laugh:


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    #14315809 - 04/19/11 06:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yummy :laugh:


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    #14320810 - 04/20/11 12:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Boil up some hardwood chips to hydrate, cool, leech, chuck in stem butts, wait. Add more chips/bury with more chips. Wait till next season.:thumbup:


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    #14321459 - 04/20/11 03:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

cheers for the advice man, would growing the be similar to cyans? because they look alike and grow in same environments and I think they are closely related species.


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14321569 - 04/20/11 04:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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cheers for the advice man, would growing the be similar to cyans? because they look alike and grow in same environments and I think they are closely related species.




Exactly the same mate :mushroom2:


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14321583 - 04/20/11 04:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Use the woodlovers smoothie tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7478182#Post7478182

Go for a walk and spread that around.. Sure the get a few nice patches in a year or so


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    #14392737 - 05/03/11 02:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)




I picked all the mature ones about a week ago, checked em again and theres alot more popping up and more pins everywhere

the ones in the very last picture had a nice bron colour but ater a day o rain they chaned to that creamy brown colour, crazy what they can do overnight.


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Re: P. Sub or P. Austr. hopefully [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14392744 - 05/03/11 02:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I picked all the mature ones about a week ago, checked em again and theres alot more popping up and more pins everywhere

the ones in the very last picture had a nice bron colour but ater a day o rain they chaned to that creamy brown colour, crazy what they can do overnight.




Looks like some little critters had a bit of a nibble on your lovely Subs :P


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    #14392765 - 05/03/11 02:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

haha yeah but i dont mind sharing with them, :p

and you can see in the second picture I have a few more pins coming up haha, if they all open up n dont abort again i should get another 100g fresh outta there

what's the chances of the patch fruiting again next year? will it pretty much fruit every time it gets the right climate? or can the mycelium die off eventually?


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    #14392896 - 05/03/11 04:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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what's the chances of the patch fruiting again next year?




86.4%

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will it pretty much fruit every time it gets the right climate?




Yes, until the substrate is expended.

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or can the mycelium die off eventually?




If you don't feed it new wood chips.


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    #14392902 - 05/03/11 04:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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what's the chances of the patch fruiting again next year?




86.4%




I love the preciseness of this response :tongue2:


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    #14392947 - 05/03/11 05:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah nice haha how'd u get 86.4 percent?


how can you tell if a substrate is expended?

and when feeding it new wood-chip im assuming I dont throw fresh chip on,  in case its treated?


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    #14392954 - 05/03/11 05:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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yeah nice haha how'd u get 86.4 percent?




I estimated the chance that they would return next year, based on the health of your patch and past experience.

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how can you tell if a substrate is expended?




If it already ate all the wood chips and is turning into dirt.

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and when feeding it new wood-chip im assuming I dont throw fresh chip on,  in case its treated?




No not treated, just fresh.


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    #14393004 - 05/03/11 05:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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yeah nice haha how'd u get 86.4 percent?




I estimated the chance that they would return next year, based on the health of your patch and past experience.




haha that was great.


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