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palestine vs isreal
    #1431334 - 04/05/03 02:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i was just wondering what people think about whats going on in isreal and palestine




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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1431555 - 04/05/03 04:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

This might be better in the political discussion forum...

And although I have a hard time coming up with an answer to that problem, I will say I think the U.S. government should quit blindly supporting Israel and condemning the Palestinians when they are both equally guilty of killing many innocent people. I wonder what ever happened to the peace process. Did it just die off with the Clinton administration?


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1431563 - 04/05/03 04:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah this is a political thread..moved


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1431607 - 04/05/03 04:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ya i guess they will never get anywhere


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: adrug]
    #1431713 - 04/05/03 06:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Are there any innocent colonists? When colonists invade the land of a native group and foribly displace them how can you call them innocent. By this measure every Israeli is guilty, man, woman, and child. Aren?t they are all a colonial threat to the existance of native palistinians?



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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1431769 - 04/05/03 06:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

They need to kill Arafat then less bombings will occur.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1431771 - 04/05/03 06:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

lot of palestinians would kill themselves for their country i really dont blame them for what they do. if you think about what would you do if your country was being invaded



ive seeen what the isreales do on tv
when the isreales do kill people its never adults usually kids past two years 3200 palestinian kids have died all under the age of 16


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1431787 - 04/05/03 06:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

arafat has nothing to do with it
if i was there and my country was being invaded i would pull a suicde boming mission




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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1431828 - 04/05/03 07:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

their country isn't being invaded. Are you referring to Israelis invading and making Israel? There's been documented proof when the Israelis captured Arafat's HQ when he went into hiding that he was paying families of suicide bombers.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1431841 - 04/05/03 07:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I tell part of the reason Israelis don't like Palestinians.

[No posting of offensive images such as scat, bukkake, decomposing, or disfigured bodies.]

So next time you ask yourself "Why are the Jews so cruel to the Palestinians" think about this.


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Edited by 3DSHROOM (04/07/03 07:47 PM)


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1431961 - 04/05/03 08:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Holy shit man, you showed a couple of pictures of dead Israelis. BFD at least they had weapons. Think about all the Palestineans that are killed because they threw rocks, fucking rocks man.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Skikid16]
    #1431981 - 04/05/03 08:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Those graphic images show dead colonists that want to forcibly relocate another culture. Looks like they got what they deserve. Show some dead NAZIs next, they get what they deserve too.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1432006 - 04/05/03 08:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

They need to kill Arafat then less bombings will occur.

if they killed arafat, that region would explode.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1432019 - 04/05/03 08:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

and maybe it would do you good to have a look at the statistics here... soooo many more palestinians have been killed by isrealis than israelis by palestinians.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1432023 - 04/05/03 08:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I think the media has washed your brain.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1432042 - 04/05/03 08:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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and maybe it would do you good to have a look at the statistics here... soooo many more palestinians have been killed by isrealis than israelis by palestinians.




And the reason? statistics as in reported deaths?

I read in a paper once "ISRAELI SOLDIERS KILL 7 PALESTINIANS" Then I hit up the Israeli paper and see that those 7 palestinians were involved in an attack and were killed in self defense but the media dare not say how many Israelis were killed, that'd make the muslims look like the bad guys.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1432098 - 04/05/03 08:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

the israelis kill far more palestinians than palestinians kill israelis.

and of course, both of them think it's justified every time.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1432119 - 04/05/03 08:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The Israeli military occupies the native peoples land to demolish their homes so colonists can build bread and butter 2 stories and live in peace. What part do you disagree with?


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1432121 - 04/05/03 08:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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So next time you ask yourself "Why are the Jews so cruel to the Palestinians" think about this.




you are really... nm.

You have absolutely no clue what the neo-nazi's, i.e., Israeli government, do to civilians. The pics you posted are quite mild really (oh, and the pics appear to be of IDF soldiers, not civilians). Try posting some of children blown to bits...


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: grib]
    #1432182 - 04/05/03 09:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

man isrealies are cruel i could post pictures of
palestinians with organs missing
how low can they get steling palestinian organs

you know what the soldiers do to people the find in the street they make pull out of a hat their punishment .
break their hand loose a leg kick their ass


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1432195 - 04/05/03 09:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Just wanted to let you know that Israel never exsisted until the British Mandate created it. Please get your facts right and remember that the Jews suffered from the Holocaust. We are reminded about it EVERY DAY in the media indirectly. But what have the Jews learnt from it? It seems to me that they've learnt nothing. They are just taking it out on innocent Palestinian civilians. They are practicing first degree Terrorism. Palestinians hate oppression and terrorism. Jews know what it's like to be terrorised and humiliated from the Holocaust, so why are they doing it to the Palestinians? It's crazy! It's sick. It's barbaric


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1432216 - 04/05/03 09:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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They need to kill Arafat then less bombings will occur.



Arafat is not the guy behind the suicide bombings. He may be a little more complicit about them than he should be but Hammass(sp?) is the group mainly responsible for the bombings.

Frankly, if they killed Arafat, Hammass would completely take over, and then suicide bombings would increase.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1432239 - 04/05/03 09:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

dont kill arafat
kill sharon


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1432257 - 04/05/03 09:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If one of them must be killed, I agree it should be Sharon. I was much more sympathetic towards Israel when Barak was prime minister, but Sharon is dangerous.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1432358 - 04/05/03 10:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Remember this, all political leaders are dangerous.

The more power they have the more dangerous they are.


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    #1432362 - 04/05/03 10:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

And Arafat isn't very powerful.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1432663 - 04/06/03 01:04 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

dont kill arafat
kill sharon




naaq just Arafat, he's the shithead


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1433094 - 04/06/03 10:11 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

both would be better
but sharon fires missiles at them Barak never did that


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1433697 - 04/06/03 05:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Barak? The Barak who wanted to give land to the Palestinians? The land that would split Israel into two halves? yea that's a valuble piece of land religiously pshh yea try militarily. And Clinton would get the Peace Prize? Barak is a dipshit. Appeasement isn't the way to go. Palestine is big enough.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1433778 - 04/06/03 06:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Killing Arafat is a bad idea. In Palestine, he is a major figure. Whoever said the region wold explode is right. At that, how can Arafat stop any given militant from strapping a bomb to himself, sneaking inside Israel and blowing himself up on a bus?

And do you want me to post pictures of dead Palestinian children and say "Now you know why some young arabs become terrorists"? Btw, the pictures you showed were of soldiers, which to me is fair game.

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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1434009 - 04/06/03 08:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Barak was the first guy since Rabin to be willing to listen to the pleas of the Palestinian people. He knew that reaching a compromise was better than slaughtering Palestinians and breeding more hate.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1434193 - 04/06/03 09:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Wait until Iraq is gone, it is gonna be open season on Palestine, lol, load up your m16s and take aim.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: downforpot]
    #1434213 - 04/06/03 09:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

iraq is going to be split up into to three


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1434226 - 04/06/03 10:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

kurds, iraqis that hate america, iraqis that suppport america.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: downforpot]
    #1434249 - 04/06/03 10:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

kurds, shiit , siine


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: downforpot]
    #1434250 - 04/06/03 10:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i think the only reason you support palistine is because u are muslim, and they are jewish. It is always like this. here is an example it happend yesterday to me. I was working with this turkish guy and we where getting along until he found out i was jewish than suddenly things change. You fuckin desert rats hate simply because of religion, and support only because of religion. And that shit about rocks, rocks can kill u too, and they are not doing it to get your attention, they are doing it to hurt u, if it was me , i would shoot them right in the face, i have no respect for idiots.

btw, i know muslims that are normal and base thing on knowledge not religion, and i am friends with them, but for u desert rats out there, i hope the next time u try to blow your worthless selves up, in a crowded shoping mall filled with kids, you get shot, and your house and family be dealt with in the same manner that you saw as acceptable for others


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1434258 - 04/06/03 10:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

no its not because i am muslim
they are blowing there worthless selves for their country
you cant blame them for what they do


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1434270 - 04/06/03 10:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I know a muslim, she the shit, she doesnt even give a shit about the war or any of the Jihad bs, its thoes religious faggots that run around towns with c4 strapped to their chests screamin jihad.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: downforpot]
    #1434295 - 04/06/03 10:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

thats what i am saying, i have no problem with muslims, but when u try and blow a bunch of kids up in a mall, or are stupid enough to throw a roock at a armed soldier i have a problem


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    #1434300 - 04/06/03 10:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, no wonder 16 year old palestine kids are dying, they need to stop playing with fire and stay out of the way, rather than run head on into israeli tanks with rocks.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: downforpot]
    #1434310 - 04/06/03 10:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

blame it all on the palestinians



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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1434314 - 04/06/03 10:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, thats what I am saying.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: downforpot]
    #1434317 - 04/06/03 10:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

its the isrealis who are tering their houses down


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1434321 - 04/06/03 10:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i agree with you they shouldn't be doing suicide bombing antherax is the way


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1434322 - 04/06/03 10:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, palestine gave them their land and asked syria and egypt to destroy Israel, too bad they lost.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1434323 - 04/06/03 10:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

thats what happens when u blow up kids, your hous goes down, good trade, i think not, i think the families should be blown up too in the house


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    #1434325 - 04/06/03 10:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

the only reason u guys are with the isrealis because u guys are both
jews


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1434326 - 04/06/03 10:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

actually i am christian, but I do have jewish blood, now let me say this again: Palestine abandons their land, goes to egypt and syria, ask for help to destroy Israel and have all the land, Syria and Egypt get their asses shot off, Israel takes abandoned land.


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    #1434328 - 04/06/03 10:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

its all sharons falt


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    #1434339 - 04/06/03 10:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i am not supporting them because i am jewish, i actually though they where both wrong before, but then i went to isrial and saw some kids get blown up, you ever see that? after that i think ever one of those jihad desert rats should be hunted down and shot dead. the religion of islam is peacfull, they are murderers of younge children that had nothing to do with the war and should be treated as such


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    #1434341 - 04/06/03 10:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

you guys murder more of us then we kill you


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    #1434349 - 04/06/03 10:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i think that for every kid that gets killed thousands of those idiots should be killed. those kids where not throwing rocks, they where not soldiers, they were in a mall having fun being kids and then some idiot killed them. I think there is nothing that can be done to make that right, but destroying idiots that claim to have done this and are proud of it is a good start. btw where do u live, have u actually seen what happens down there or are you just listening to your parents?


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    #1434362 - 04/06/03 10:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

so its right to kill kids throwing rocks
isreal is the biggest terrorist


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    #1434363 - 04/06/03 10:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It is warning shots first, then the kids pick up their ak47


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    #1434365 - 04/06/03 10:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I am an palestinian, but i have never seen my country!!However i can proudly say thatmy ancestotrs fought to preserve a world which has now disppeared. Arab muslims protected jews and Christians under the old nation and for centuries we all practised our religions in peace. We ruled for centuries peacefully and poltically whilst the rest of the world lived in the middle ages. whilst arabs had abondoned slavery and made women equals, the Europeans did not know the world was round. we invented maths and literature!!!we pioneered chemistry. now i get israelis telling me they are Israel, i want peace, but when you get a nation thats oly been around for 50 years thinking they're an empire something must be said.let democracy and the intelligent rule again and us Arabs will show you what is Israel and what is Arabia!!!My ancestors gave their blood fighting in thee name of freedom (includin that of the jews)but i will not protect those who don't understand justice


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1434368 - 04/06/03 10:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

As soon as American realises that Israel is one of its biggest liabilities in the Middle East region the sooner it will stop supplying it unconditional economic and military support and the sooner the Arab's can finish off what they started in 1948.


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    #1434372 - 04/06/03 10:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

you eve3r get hit with a rock, they throw those rocks to kill the soldiers, not to play, if someone throws a rock at me i will do something, rocks hurt. So do bullets, and i am more than 100% sure that if those kids had guns they would use those instead of rocks. so don't use that excuss they were only throwing rocks. it was rocks because they are too stupid to realize that they could do something with their lives instead of trying to kill others


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1434376 - 04/06/03 10:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Actually Jews and Christians were looked down uppon by Arabs and Muslims, less rights, less respect, you need to get your history straight.


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    #1434378 - 04/06/03 10:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i dont think
rocks are going to kill the soldiers. when they are sitting in f*** tanks


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1434383 - 04/06/03 10:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

prove it


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1434384 - 04/06/03 10:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It's like playing with fire, you fuck with it and dont expect to die.


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    #1434385 - 04/06/03 10:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

btw, if it wasn't for the us, isreal would have kiill ed ever arab in isreal by now, and the past is gone, muslims where on top back then, but now they are not times change, and sharon is just waiting for idiots to do something big so he has a reason to kill every arab in isreal, and he will have no trouble doing it.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1434388 - 04/06/03 10:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

prove it? I learned this for 2 years in history class, jews looked down uppon, even NON arab muslims were looked down uppon.


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    #1434394 - 04/06/03 10:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

why the fuck would you throw a rock at someone with a gun. does being palistenian lower your iq or something. Rocks heart, when your in pain you get rid of what caused the pain, in this case a desert rat. btw a rock can hit you in your face and kill you dumbass


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: downforpot]
    #1434397 - 04/06/03 10:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

at least we didn't kill you for being of different religion
unlike the europeans


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    #1434400 - 04/06/03 10:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

what are u doing now, think before u type


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    #1434405 - 04/06/03 10:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

A lot of arabs want Israel gone.


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    #1434407 - 04/06/03 11:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

arabmonster, how old are you man?


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    #1434412 - 04/06/03 11:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

how old r u first


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    #1434416 - 04/06/03 11:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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    #1434422 - 04/06/03 11:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

17 also
what does age have to do with it
thats typical isrealies thinking ur smarter then arabs


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    #1434427 - 04/06/03 11:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i think anyone that throws a rock at a armed soldier that u know will shoot back is stupid and if you think different u are also stupid, simple logic tell u the outcome


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    #1434428 - 04/06/03 11:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

just wondering how much history you have went through. Cause some things that I know I learned from school, we spent a really long time talking about Islam history last year, my teacher just spent hours talking.


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    #1434429 - 04/06/03 11:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i am not isrealie


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    #1434432 - 04/06/03 11:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

of course you americans hate muslims and blame us for everything
you guys just wanted to get back at us so you went after iraq


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    #1434436 - 04/06/03 11:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

im not american...


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    #1434438 - 04/06/03 11:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

its history reapting itself you guys are the biggest nazis
like how the Nazis made you wher dog tags
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    #1434444 - 04/06/03 11:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

the only reason isreal is powerful because you guys run the whitehouse


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    #1434445 - 04/06/03 11:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

By the way, every1 blames everything on jews, the 911 is blamed on jews by some muslims, the plague in europe was blamed on jews, world war 2 was blamed on jews, everything is blamed on jews.


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    #1434448 - 04/06/03 11:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

listen any palistinian in isreal can put down the fucken c4 and live a normal life, they choose to live like that, too live a good life all you gota do is not try and kill others, for some reason they can't get that too the peanut they call a brain


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    #1434449 - 04/06/03 11:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

they should blame it on you guys


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    #1434452 - 04/06/03 11:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

that and the fact that there is more tanks than land


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    #1434454 - 04/06/03 11:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i am also not american


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    #1434456 - 04/06/03 11:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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    #1434464 - 04/06/03 11:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, i proved my point, muslims said that 4000 jews were not in the WTC on the day of the 911 attacks, they all said that Osama Bin Laden had nothin to do with 911. The attacks on the American embassy was caused by a leader speaking to a crowd of muslims saying that an army of israelis and americans was heading torward the holy city of whatever.



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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: downforpot]
    #1434521 - 04/06/03 11:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

This thread made my IQ drop by 10 points.  Now I feel like watching Fox News.  :tongue:


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    #1434549 - 04/06/03 11:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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He knew that reaching a compromise was better than slaughtering Palestinians and breeding more hate.



Peace for a week, Clinton get peace prize, then attacks would continue. The Palestinians wanted land that would just about divide Israel in 2 and leave it much weaker.



As you can see, Silversoul6, the Israelis voted Barak out for a pretty good reason. No matter how much land they give, it?ll never bring peace.

After War of 1967 The Golan Heights were taken from Syria, b/c Syria was bombing Israel from the Golan Heights prior to the war. After Syria was defeated, Israel had no reason to give back this land.

According to UN Resolution 181, Palestine was partitioned into two states, one Jewish and one Arab. The Jewish community of Palestine accepted partition despite the small size and strategic vulnerability of the proposed state. Palestine had Gaza, West Bank, Jerusalem, most of the Galilee in the North, and parts of the Negev desert in the South. Yet Israel was attacked on all sides in 1967, and the loser lost land as a result.

According to Barak?s proposal, the width of Israel would be divided in two. And it?d be impossible for Israel to defend itself against Palestinian extremists. Including splitting Jerusalem in half, this would be like Berlin.

Sharon?s approach is more realistic. He has found that Arafat has been supporting terrorist activities in Israel, so a new Palestinian authority has to be established and Arafat gone. And Sharon would like to return 43% of the land.

I believe this whole situation can be significantly improved if the terrorist activity was removed. One of the problems for the last eight years was Clinton giving credibility to a terrorist leader. Now with a new Palestinian authority coming to be, Arafat doesn?t have as much authority and perhaps there?ll be more progress toward a resolution. 10 years ago, I?d agree, all hell would break loose if Arafat was killed but now he?s just dust in the wind.

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    #1435693 - 04/07/03 11:37 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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    #1436615 - 04/07/03 05:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

As long as there aren't dumbasses like Rabin and Barak in power, leaders like Sharon will worry bout their well-being and bitch slap any muslim bullshit.


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Quote:

As long as there aren't dumbasses like Rabin and Barak in power, leaders like Sharon will worry bout their well-being and bitch slap any muslim bullshit.



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    #1436755 - 04/07/03 06:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

silversoul7
you are the only person who seems to undersatnd anything
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    #1436775 - 04/07/03 06:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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    #1436822 - 04/07/03 06:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

too late...I wonder who the lucky winner will be that get's the honor of being the first person I ban after they've been warned?


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    #1436907 - 04/07/03 07:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

peace talking times have long past. palistenians had a chance for peace, that time is over. I find it ironic how even the arab countries don't want the palistenians. they just would rather have muslims in control of isreal and that is it. Even muslims arn't too fond of those crazy ass suicide bombers. Maybe when they evolve and learn the wonders of logic.

oh, and i hope that someone like u does go into power in palistine, you know y?
because that will give reason enough to take action against all of palistine and expand isreal. Oh and there is no chance of palistine winning as is evident from other wars.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1436936 - 04/07/03 07:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Quote:

As long as there aren't dumbasses like Rabin and Barak in power, leaders like Sharon will worry bout their well-being and bitch slap any muslim bullshit.



Rabin was the only real hope for peace in that region.




YOU SEEM ILL INFORMED. DID YOU READ ANYTHING I POSTED ABOVE. IT WOULD'NT BRING PEACE!. THERE WILL NEVER BE PEACE BETWEEN THE PALESTINIANS AND ISRAELIS. Israel has their land and already gave back some of the West Bank, but PALESTINE'S VIEW IS THAT ALL ISRAEL BELONGS TO THEM!! SO PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES, YOU'RE NOT JEWISH, YOU'RE NOT ARAB. YOU'RE A PEACENIK AND IF YOU WERE THE LEADER OF ISRAEL THEN THEY'D BE SURE TO FALL AND YOUR REDICULOUS PEACENIK ATTITUDE WOULD'VE OBLITERATED ISRAEL OFF THE MAP.

There was a reason Rabin was assassinated and it was for being the dumbshit that he is by giving away land in a hope toward winning the peace prize(he was the cowinner) But then he wouldn't given more land and then Arafat is laughing at him all the way.


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and even cleanses those places
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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Rono]
    #1436938 - 04/07/03 07:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Flames flames!

The forums goink down dee drains!

I goes to fetch wada.

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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1436942 - 04/07/03 07:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

all the muslims love uss
just wait until you guys arent running america.'
we will take over and
you guys will be doing the suicide bombings


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Re: palestine vs isreal *DELETED* [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1436946 - 04/07/03 07:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1436953 - 04/07/03 07:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

if they love u so much how come jordan killed every palistenian that crosses the border? you've never been to the region have u?


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1436957 - 04/07/03 07:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

before sharon came along
the arabs and the isreales where getting together

th civil war started again beacause as soon as sharon got in power again he took about 2000 men and went into the mosque
even though people where telling him not to


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1436959 - 04/07/03 07:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

how is that flaming i see it as an opinion, just as arabmobster, everyone should have a say, even if their say is offensive. Everyone that enters this thread knows that it will be a heated topic.

but that is just my opinion


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1436965 - 04/07/03 07:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Explain why Serbia's dictator would kill the muslims coming in until Clinton bombed em.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1436967 - 04/07/03 07:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

jordan can lick my nuts

like i said i am going to be the next dictator in the middle east and i will bring justice to that country
sha ALLAH


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1436968 - 04/07/03 07:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

you did not answer, have u ever even been to the region?

and the civil war never ended there, palistinians even said it will never end until there is no isreal.

If isreal was not giving peace a chance palistinians would all be killed. Because that stament in itself is a threat and a decleration of war


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1436971 - 04/07/03 07:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Not my call Bro.

Just seemed like the screaming and name calling were too much.

We wait and see.

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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1436977 - 04/07/03 07:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

just like suddam is crushing the evil americans right, allah is with you. all the way to hell.

isn't being muslim about peace. Where the fuck do u get off killing people and calling yourselves ritous.



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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1436979 - 04/07/03 07:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

you jews dont want peace
as i see it you want get peace with sharon around ]
sooner or later he should die of a heart attack


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1436980 - 04/07/03 07:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

prolly b/c sharon wanted to hunt out all the terrorist hideouts. You know, one of the terrorist hideouts/places to make bombs was next door to a refugee camp.

You say one side of the story BUT I'M SURE Sharon had a good reason to go into those Mosques.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1436988 - 04/07/03 07:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

the mosque we built
that the chretiens find so preciuos to them
and the jew

its not a muslim war against jews
the chretiens have their own terrorist groups they hate you guys more then we do
they support us
they live with us we share the land jesus was born on


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1436989 - 04/07/03 07:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

why are u avoiding my ?



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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1436994 - 04/07/03 07:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ur what


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1436999 - 04/07/03 07:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

you jews dont want peace
as i see it you want get peace with sharon around ]
sooner or later he should die of a heart attack




d00d, I'm not Jewish. I only like their food.

Honest.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1437002 - 04/07/03 07:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

wow, your pretty stupid since a few years back chretians where walking the streets appoligizing to every jew they saw on the streets.

learn your facts. i bet u are just some kid in the states that knows nothing of what happens there, all your info probably comes from the extremist sites. and you would probably shit yourself if u saw a dead body


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1437003 - 04/07/03 07:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

you jews want it all for yourselfs
since you guys are such a democratic country
why do the cops put the people in jail who stand up against isreal and say what you guys are doing is wrong

and dont say that never happens


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1437005 - 04/07/03 07:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

have u ever been to the region


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1437010 - 04/07/03 07:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yes i have


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1437012 - 04/07/03 07:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

it does happen, but what you don't mention is that those people also make threats. in isreal children are very precious it is not rare for people to just give kids candy on the streets. when u kill a kid in isreal, even one that makes u unhuman and you will be treated as such


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1437017 - 04/07/03 07:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

where?


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1437026 - 04/07/03 07:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

so its right to kill all those precious palestinian kids

all most every single person you guys killed since last year was under the age of 17

dont say they only kill people who are outside throwing rocks i lost relatives who where sitting at home


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1437028 - 04/07/03 07:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

thrats are taken very seriosly in isreal, and palistinians know this. If you know what is going to happen then y would you do it and be surprised when something happens


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1437036 - 04/07/03 07:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

those protestors didnt threaten nobody


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1437037 - 04/07/03 07:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

where your relative related to a bomber, judging from your attitude i think so. Isreal also says, that if you bomb your house is gone and so is your family. that is the way it is


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1437046 - 04/07/03 07:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

so all the houses they are destroying is from bombers
they destroy more then a 100 houses a day
you guy walk into houses and shoot people
i lost a cousin who was 5 months shot through the back i guess he threw a rock at one of the soldiers


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1437056 - 04/07/03 08:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

shit happens, people have ties. and when almost everyone is isreal has lost someone close because of a bomber revenge feels sweet.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1437059 - 04/07/03 08:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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so its right to kill all those precious palestinian kids

all most every single person you guys killed since last year was under the age of 17

dont say they only kill people who are outside throwing rocks i lost relatives who where sitting at home 




I am so terribly sorry to hear this. :frown:

Both sides should stop.

When will we ever learn.  :frown:


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1437065 - 04/07/03 08:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

see ur addmitting to it most of the people you kill have nothing to do with suicide bombings


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1437074 - 04/07/03 08:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i think u missed the point. if there where no bombing there are no killings. but that is over now, peace talks are done, and the isreali people are tired of living in fear of someone blowing themselves up. the scares go too deep and there is only one solution now and that is for one party to be non-existent. guess which one the palistenians are


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1437075 - 04/07/03 08:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i dont hate jews
are religion is so alike
even though we hate ur kind we consider u guys like cousins


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1437086 - 04/07/03 08:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i will avenge my country ang get my grandparents homes back

as soon as i am 50 and i had the satisfation of life i am going down their to keep up the tradition


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1437096 - 04/07/03 08:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

same with the jews we are the same relion almost. I find the fact that most muslims are taught to hate jews from birth by their parents to be half of the reason for the current situation, the other half is that jews are taught the same so until people stop passing ignorance on to their children this will never end until one or both peoples are destroyed


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1437106 - 04/07/03 08:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

wow, thats stupid off u, but good luck dieing, because that is what will happen. even with the help of other muslim countries u lost, i guess you guys don't give up until your dead. luckly i know plenty of people that are willing to help u die, have fun


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1437333 - 04/07/03 09:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not even going to dignify that idiotic post with a response.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1437394 - 04/07/03 09:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i see it as honour
and i am willing to die for my country and for its people


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1437403 - 04/07/03 10:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

I'm not even going to dignify that idiotic post with a response


No need to, CrackaX has been dealt with accordingly since he has been warned once already.

On the same note, please refrain from referring to someones post as "idiotic" Everyone believes what they do for a reason...


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Rono]
    #1437419 - 04/07/03 10:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

take that fucking picture off


Edited by arabmobster (04/07/03 11:09 PM)


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Rono]
    #1437548 - 04/07/03 10:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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too late...I wonder who the lucky winner will be that get's the honor of being the first person I ban after they've been warned? 

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rono, your a powertrippin tyrant. j/k :smirk:


But on another note. The blind hatred i see exchanged between arabmobster, and....[the other guy]....seems very illogical.  I mean i understand you've both suffered horribly, because of the conflict but it can't end with parents raising children not to hate.....it has to start with you.



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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1438675 - 04/08/03 10:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Ah but Azmo, that is so easier said than done.  The whole thing just makes me sad. :frown:


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: arabmobster]
    #1439028 - 04/08/03 01:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

>i see it as honour
>and i am willing to die for my country and for its people


Wow, might as well just strap a bomb to ALL the people living in palestine!
(wouldnt that solve all of their problems?)


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1439042 - 04/08/03 01:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Ah but Azmo, that is so easier said than done.  The whole thing just makes me sad. :frown: 




With trenches of hatred so deep they are not filled easily...
I know very little about  the specifics of this whole conflict, but putting aside ones preconceptions, one must see the utter futility of continuing the violence? 


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1439288 - 04/08/03 02:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Did you really just say that?  :confused:

:grin:

There are some conflicts that never end.

But there are some that do.  To know when to fight is wisdom.

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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1439301 - 04/08/03 02:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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To know when to fight is wisdom. 




Actually its knowing when not to fight. :smirk:
Many can "know" what thier doing is nescessary, even though it isn't.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1439325 - 04/08/03 02:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Think.

To know when to fight includes knowing when not to fight. I could have just as easily said the one as the other.

If a person only fights when they know they can win they are a coward and a bully.

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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1439330 - 04/08/03 02:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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If a person only fights when they know they can win they are a coward and a bully. 




I thought you were more patriotic? :smirk:

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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1439356 - 04/08/03 02:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Don't misjudge me. I am loyal to ideals, not a country that says it has the ideals I believe in but really doesn't.

Fighting is only nescessary in true self defense.

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    #1439402 - 04/08/03 03:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Don't misjudge me.  I am loyal to ideals, not a country that says it has the ideals I believe in but really doesn't.

Fighting is only nescessary in true self defense.

YES! 




:grin:

Oh come now...i've read your other posts, and you say to support your troops no matter what, even if you dont agree.  That is patriotism at its worst! and it is not an ideal, cus if it was youd support every military, which is not the case...only "your" military.
You also said something along the lines of "if america is hit harder than 9/11 nuclear retaliation will be dealt out.  Now i know you didn't say  "you think america should...." but thats why i get confused about you sometimes.  Still with your ideals, how support your country at a time like this?


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1439452 - 04/08/03 03:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i guess both side are to blame
not just one


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1440055 - 04/08/03 06:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I am sorry for being so complex. I never really said exactly what I think and feel for fear of hurting someone's feelings or causing people to think less of the Shroomery because of me.

But since you brought this up I'll try to explain a little bit about what I think/feel about these issues.

Do I support our troops? Well, what do you mean by support? Do I support them in the bloody carnage they are involved in presently in Iraq? No if support means I agree with what they are doing. But yes if support means I think having a military is a good idea. Every country needs to be able to defend itself against foreign invaders.

Do I support what my country is doing in this war? No, if support means agreeing that this was the only way to handle Saddam. But yes if support means I think he should be gotten rid of. I would never have started this war. I would never start any war unless we were attacked.

Obviously this means I support a war against Osama Bin Laden and his group.

I hope that clears it up a little.

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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1440114 - 04/08/03 07:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

>>>Fighting is only nescessary in true self defense.<<<

Or in defense of another. (When genuine)


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1440132 - 04/08/03 07:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks BH. I missed that proviso.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1441013 - 04/09/03 12:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Howcome all the major conflicts are going on in middle east and/or in muslim lands?


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: downforpot]
    #1441083 - 04/09/03 12:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Muslims are being oppressed.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Zahid]
    #1441089 - 04/09/03 12:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

.....by Saddam.


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What if all the world you think you know,
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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Murex]
    #1441091 - 04/09/03 12:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

...and Bush


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1441096 - 04/09/03 12:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

...and Sharon


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1442265 - 04/09/03 10:38 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

silver soul you are pretty nieve, and one sided, you don't seem to be receptive at all. if u knew of the conditions in isrial you would not have such an opinion. And sharon is like that because like most ppeople he has sufford a lose, his brother. guess how.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1442272 - 04/09/03 10:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

its cuz muslims are violent motherfuckers.

you dont see any christian terrorist organizations...

damn bloodthirsty muslims.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1442277 - 04/09/03 10:46 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

that is what i am saying. usually the people that support these people are either niave and never seen what they do or are a part of the problem


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1442301 - 04/09/03 10:57 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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silver soul you are pretty nieve, and one sided, you don't seem to be receptive at all.



Why? Because I disagree with you?

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if u knew of the conditions in isrial you would not have such an opinion.



And how do you know? Are you aware of the fact that there are actually people in Israel who think Sharon is a monster? They may not be the majority, but there are several of them.

This is what shows me that you are the naive and one-sided one: the "if you knew what I know you'd agree with me" argument. It simply doesn't hold up.

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And sharon is like that because like most ppeople he has sufford a lose, his brother. guess how.



And so he continues the cycle of violence to avenge his brother's death. Violence begets violence.


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Edited by silversoul7 (04/09/03 11:01 AM)


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1442314 - 04/09/03 11:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

and pacifism ends up with dead iraqi children. those suicide bombers dont fuck around.

funny how we fight a war on terror, but we let shit like that happen to our allies. not that id approve if we stepped in.. thats a damn hornets nest of religious bullshit..

and i just realized how the worlds going to end. we're going to go over there and start busting up shit like we did in iraq and shits gonna hit the fan.

we're all fucking screwed.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1442324 - 04/09/03 11:07 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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and pacifism ends up with dead iraqi children. those suicide bombers dont fuck around.



Compromise is the key. Rabin could have brought peace to that region if he had lived long enough. He was the first guy to actually have the guts to negotiate with Arafat. He was going to give back land that rightfully belonged to the Palestinians. This would have given Palestinians less reason to be angry, so the violence would have been reduced. Of course it wouldn't stop--it never stops--but it would make life easier to live in that region.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1442346 - 04/09/03 11:14 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

both sides want the same thing, though. how can you compromise when two groups of people feel that the same land is theirs by right of GOD?

it doesnt work.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1442358 - 04/09/03 11:17 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Good point. The religious issue is tough to work around on both sides.

For Palestinians, tho, it's not really so much that they think the land was given to them by God as much as the fact that it was TAKEN from them by Israel. People forget that Israel was formed after WW2 on land that had once belonged to Palestine. Many Zionists used terrorist tactics(I bet you guys thought only Muslims did that) to force the Palestinians off their land. Many moved to Jordan, but some had no choice but to stay behind. The taking of that country by force is the main reason why certain Muslim groups want Israel destroyed. And one reason for a lot of Anti-American sentiment in the world is the fact that we fund and arm Israel, to the extent that it probably wouldn't exist without our protection.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1442390 - 04/09/03 11:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah. thats why its so fucked up.

i think it was.. jon stewart from the daily show, of all people.. that made a really good point about that... he said places like that should be controlled by the UN, or some neutral party, and each religion could have equal access to it.

good idea in theory, but the jews and muslims both would die before they let it happen.

fucking religious nutjobs, fuckin up my damn planet.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1442394 - 04/09/03 11:26 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Ya. I'm not trying to say there's an easy solution, cuz there isn't one. But I definitely know that slaughtering Palestians is just gonna piss them off even more.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1442714 - 04/09/03 01:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

there is no solution other than one of them being non esistent, all the jews will die or all the palistenians. that is the only way violence will stop


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1442716 - 04/09/03 01:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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there is no solution other than one of them being non esistent, all the jews will die or all the palistenians. that is the only way violence will stop



Damn, I thought that 6 million of your people dying in the Holocaust would teach you that genocide is not the answer, but I guess I was wrong.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1442798 - 04/09/03 01:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well, when almost every palistenian in palistine says they won't stop until they kill every jew in isrial shit changes. and that is the general consesis you can't change fact


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1443212 - 04/09/03 03:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I hope that clears it up a little.




...yeah, a little... :wink:

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How equal are the two sides?  If your attitude is "there can be only one" how much of one will there be left by the time the other is gone?  Is this a victory?...would this solve the problem?....mabye short term, but its not a solution.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1443347 - 04/09/03 04:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

we wont give up until we get our land back
and its the isreales who will lose


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: downforpot]
    #1443496 - 04/09/03 04:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Howcome all the major conflicts are going on in middle east and/or in muslim lands?




This has been going on for thousands of years. Some say it is fate.

It will not end.


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    #1443545 - 04/09/03 05:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

see what i mean


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1443551 - 04/09/03 05:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

everybody wants our land
we fought for it four thousand of years
nobody will erver take it away from us


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1444044 - 04/09/03 08:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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its cuz muslims are violent motherfuckers.

you dont see any christian terrorist organizations...

damn bloodthirsty muslims.




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and i just realized how the worlds going to end. we're going to go over there and start busting up shit like we did in iraq and shits gonna hit the fan.




You're not very bright, are you.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1444083 - 04/09/03 08:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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its cuz muslims are violent motherfuckers.

you dont see any christian terrorist organizations...

damn bloodthirsty muslims.



Posse Comitatus
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Just because they are small scale does not make them less of a terrorist. Oh and Timothy McVeigh was not Muslim was he?


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