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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1439288 - 04/08/03 02:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Did you really just say that?  :confused:

:grin:

There are some conflicts that never end.

But there are some that do.  To know when to fight is wisdom.

Peace


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1439301 - 04/08/03 02:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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To know when to fight is wisdom. 




Actually its knowing when not to fight. :smirk:
Many can "know" what thier doing is nescessary, even though it isn't.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1439325 - 04/08/03 02:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Think.

To know when to fight includes knowing when not to fight. I could have just as easily said the one as the other.

If a person only fights when they know they can win they are a coward and a bully.

Cheers,


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1439330 - 04/08/03 02:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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If a person only fights when they know they can win they are a coward and a bully. 




I thought you were more patriotic? :smirk:

Fighting is only nescessary in true self defense.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1439356 - 04/08/03 02:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Don't misjudge me. I am loyal to ideals, not a country that says it has the ideals I believe in but really doesn't.

Fighting is only nescessary in true self defense.

YES!


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1439402 - 04/08/03 03:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Don't misjudge me.  I am loyal to ideals, not a country that says it has the ideals I believe in but really doesn't.

Fighting is only nescessary in true self defense.

YES! 




:grin:

Oh come now...i've read your other posts, and you say to support your troops no matter what, even if you dont agree.  That is patriotism at its worst! and it is not an ideal, cus if it was youd support every military, which is not the case...only "your" military.
You also said something along the lines of "if america is hit harder than 9/11 nuclear retaliation will be dealt out.  Now i know you didn't say  "you think america should...." but thats why i get confused about you sometimes.  Still with your ideals, how support your country at a time like this?


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1439452 - 04/08/03 03:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i guess both side are to blame
not just one


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1440055 - 04/08/03 06:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I am sorry for being so complex. I never really said exactly what I think and feel for fear of hurting someone's feelings or causing people to think less of the Shroomery because of me.

But since you brought this up I'll try to explain a little bit about what I think/feel about these issues.

Do I support our troops? Well, what do you mean by support? Do I support them in the bloody carnage they are involved in presently in Iraq? No if support means I agree with what they are doing. But yes if support means I think having a military is a good idea. Every country needs to be able to defend itself against foreign invaders.

Do I support what my country is doing in this war? No, if support means agreeing that this was the only way to handle Saddam. But yes if support means I think he should be gotten rid of. I would never have started this war. I would never start any war unless we were attacked.

Obviously this means I support a war against Osama Bin Laden and his group.

I hope that clears it up a little.

Cheers,


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1440114 - 04/08/03 07:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

>>>Fighting is only nescessary in true self defense.<<<

Or in defense of another. (When genuine)


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1440132 - 04/08/03 07:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks BH. I missed that proviso.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1441013 - 04/09/03 12:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Howcome all the major conflicts are going on in middle east and/or in muslim lands?


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: downforpot]
    #1441083 - 04/09/03 12:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Muslims are being oppressed.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Zahid]
    #1441089 - 04/09/03 12:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

.....by Saddam.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: Murex]
    #1441091 - 04/09/03 12:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

...and Bush


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1441096 - 04/09/03 12:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

...and Sharon


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1442265 - 04/09/03 10:38 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

silver soul you are pretty nieve, and one sided, you don't seem to be receptive at all. if u knew of the conditions in isrial you would not have such an opinion. And sharon is like that because like most ppeople he has sufford a lose, his brother. guess how.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1442272 - 04/09/03 10:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

its cuz muslims are violent motherfuckers.

you dont see any christian terrorist organizations...

damn bloodthirsty muslims.


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1442277 - 04/09/03 10:46 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

that is what i am saying. usually the people that support these people are either niave and never seen what they do or are a part of the problem


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: ]
    #1442301 - 04/09/03 10:57 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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silver soul you are pretty nieve, and one sided, you don't seem to be receptive at all.



Why? Because I disagree with you?

Quote:

if u knew of the conditions in isrial you would not have such an opinion.



And how do you know? Are you aware of the fact that there are actually people in Israel who think Sharon is a monster? They may not be the majority, but there are several of them.

This is what shows me that you are the naive and one-sided one: the "if you knew what I know you'd agree with me" argument. It simply doesn't hold up.

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And sharon is like that because like most ppeople he has sufford a lose, his brother. guess how.



And so he continues the cycle of violence to avenge his brother's death. Violence begets violence.


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Edited by silversoul7 (04/09/03 11:01 AM)


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Re: palestine vs isreal [Re: silversoul7]
    #1442314 - 04/09/03 11:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

and pacifism ends up with dead iraqi children. those suicide bombers dont fuck around.

funny how we fight a war on terror, but we let shit like that happen to our allies. not that id approve if we stepped in.. thats a damn hornets nest of religious bullshit..

and i just realized how the worlds going to end. we're going to go over there and start busting up shit like we did in iraq and shits gonna hit the fan.

we're all fucking screwed.


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