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OfflineOneU

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Question on consolidation
    #14311801 - 04/18/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So I read that I can consolidate for 3 days - 1 week. I also read that over-vegetation is possible if I let it sit for too long. I have a question as it was not answered in any of the 10x threads I read.

If cakes from the same inoculation time don't finish together (one is way ahead, really cool because the others are 40%+ behind) do I just allow them to consolidate separately, dunk and roll separately?

This comes in the way of my original plan (of course..) which was to birth them all together and drop the temps when I see pinning to allow them to take their time but this way I will either delay colonization of my future ones and these ones by a lot or I don't know.

If anyone can shine some light on this matter I would appreciate it.

The strain right now is GT and I'm colonizing half pints, the next strain is EQ.


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Re: Question on consolidation [Re: OneU]
    #14311842 - 04/18/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I usually just wait till all the jars are 100% colonized before birthing them. 
By the time I birth them some of the jars have been at 100% for two weeks and some for only five days. 
They might fruit at different times but that doesn't bother me.


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Re: Question on consolidation [Re: OneU]
    #14311857 - 04/18/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You can probably let the first one sit for a little while (it's normally 1 week consolidation for cakes) and let the others catch up, it shouldn't hurt anything really.  Or else you can birth it first if you're feeling impatient.  :shrug:


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Re: Question on consolidation [Re: OneU]
    #14311909 - 04/18/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

cubensis will fruit in 100 degrees doesn't matter ... its more a concern over breeding contaminate spores in your fc why you want to keep it to around 70/75 degrees ... just stick that sucker in a makeshift fc or the one you had planned already and fruit them as they come ... some now some later , no diff ... they can all go in the same bag when done anyway !


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Re: Question on consolidation [Re: Complexicated]
    #14311944 - 04/18/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Complexicated said:
I usually just wait till all the jars are 100% colonized before birthing them. 
By the time I birth them some of the jars have been at 100% for two weeks and some for only five days. 
They might fruit at different times but that doesn't bother me.




this is pretty much how i do it as well. another thing is that the humidity will be slightly higher with more cakes in the fc (assuming you are using a sgfc).


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Re: Question on consolidation [Re: awakendone]
    #14312083 - 04/18/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's not the impatience I kind of think the SGFC is a bit big for just one cake at the same time I don't know when the over vegetation overlay occurs.

What temp did you let them sit for the 2 weeks complexicated?


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Re: Question on consolidation [Re: OneU]
    #14312100 - 04/18/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

there is no such thing as a SGFC that is too big ... if its correct then its correct ... if anything it will have more FAE wich is the biggest pinning trigger of them all ...


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Re: Question on consolidation [Re: OneU]
    #14312102 - 04/18/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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OneU said:
So I read that I can consolidate for 3 days - 1 week. I also read that over-vegetation is possible if I let it sit for too long. I have a question as it was not answered in any of the 10x threads I read.

If cakes from the same inoculation time don't finish together (one is way ahead, really cool because the others are 40%+ behind) do I just allow them to consolidate separately, dunk and roll separately?

This comes in the way of my original plan (of course..) which was to birth them all together and drop the temps when I see pinning to allow them to take their time but this way I will either delay colonization of my future ones and these ones by a lot or I don't know.

If anyone can shine some light on this matter I would appreciate it.

The strain right now is GT and I'm colonizing half pints, the next strain is EQ.




Normal Consolidation is about 1 week.  Also cold shock or temp drop isn't really necessary to induce pinning when it comes to cubes, they are a sub tropic species.  Also you can either wait for them to all consolidate or do them individually, the choice is yours but if you see your cakes starting to pin in the jar then introduce fruiting conditions ASAP.


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Re: Question on consolidation [Re: Damion5050]
    #14312143 - 04/18/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ok thank you guys so much. I really have some Love for you all helping me. Have a blessed day and thanks again.

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Re: Question on consolidation [Re: OneU]
    #14312190 - 04/18/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't know when the over vegetation overlay occurs.





Never, that's a myth. 

I've left jars, as well as bulk substrates for months and then fruited with excellent performance. If you wait too long, they'll start fruiting right in the jar.

Consolidate at least a week, but two or three or four, etc., is fine too.  Birth your jars all at once or one at a time, your choice.

Colonize and fruit at normal room temperature.  Dropping temperature with tropical species such as cubes is not a pinning trigger, and in fact will delay fruiting.  Colonizing above normal room temperature will result in a higher rate of contamination.
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Re: Question on consolidation [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14312316 - 04/18/11 02:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sweeeeeeeeet. Thank you rogger rabbit.

That is most comforting. Hopefully this thread will help someone in the future.


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Re: Question on consolidation [Re: OneU]
    #14312701 - 04/18/11 03:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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OneU said:
I don't know when the over vegetation overlay occurs.




It doesn't, there is no such thing.


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Re: Question on consolidation [Re: anonjon]
    #14318657 - 04/19/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Great thread answered my question perfectly :]


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