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Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn?
    #14309070 - 04/17/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm looking to do a load of Shiitake logs and one of the people I'm doing them for happens to be Vegan. Do any of you have suggestions for sealing my plugs so that I'm not using Bee's wax or Cheese wax?


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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: utini]
    #14309098 - 04/17/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You want something natural but durable. Beeswax really is ideal.
Local beekeepers will be able to provide beeswax that did not involve harming the bees.

Or let your friends go harvest their own. :lol:


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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: utini]
    #14309139 - 04/17/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: PsillySighBen]
    #14309296 - 04/17/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Paraffin is made from oil.


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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: Doc_T]
    #14309344 - 04/17/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What about cork?


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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: yessir] * 1
    #14309355 - 04/17/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You want to seal plug spawn with cork?
Wouldn't that be like making a dog's leash out of sausages?


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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: Doc_T]
    #14309376 - 04/17/11 10:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Grifterofease said:
Try "paraffin" wax.

http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/productdetails.aspx?sku=62307&source=GoogleBase



I think we have a winner!  I'll try that.

Doct_T, petroleum is still vegan in the same sense that soil is vegan despite being a whole mess of animal "product."  If it were whale oil, no go.  Unless I'm too liberal with the Vegan thing that's my understanding of it.


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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: utini]
    #14310682 - 04/18/11 07:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I am vegan and view Paraffin as being such, all google searches concerning the topic argue the same. I'm looking into bulk shiitake & oyster and have also stumbled across the bee's/cheese wax problem.

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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: PsillySighBen]
    #14310693 - 04/18/11 07:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Vegan = no animals used. With beeswax especially, the bees are not harmed, just annoyed.

Yet you want to use a product that involves the worldwide murder of humans.

Vegans, go figure. :shrug:


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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: Doc_T]
    #14310736 - 04/18/11 07:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What good have humans ever done for the planet? In the truest sense, petroleum isn't vegan because its a fossil fuel, but what can ya do - one step at a time - we'd be better off if we left the animals out of this mess.

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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: Doc_T]
    #14311587 - 04/18/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
Vegan = no animals used. With beeswax especially, the bees are not harmed, just annoyed.

Yet you want to use a product that involves the worldwide murder of humans.

Vegans, go figure. :shrug:





lol... I have to agree, no bees are harmed when robbing honey or wax and to
be honest, they really dont get that annoyed, I've frequently checked hives
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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14316047 - 04/19/11 08:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

For me it doesn't matter whether or not they were harmed, its that the bees aren't willingly providing us with resources. I don't wear wool either. No one, animal or human kind (is there even a difference?) is coming up to me and shaving my back or skinning my hide for warmth. I'm very much comfortable in my own skin and would like to keep it that way. Milking a cow relieves ole' Bessy's utters sure, probs alleviating some discomfort - but no cow has ever come to a female human with hopes of milking her breasts to feed her children, hooking her tits up to machines and pumps and selling her milk for their profit.  Vegans are weird, and most of them are conceited or ignorant - especially those in college towns - possessing completely different conceptions of "nature", "food", and their identity as a "vegan" . I'm only speaking from my own perspective, acting from within my own relationship to Family and Earth, and I don't steal from family.


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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: utini]
    #14320204 - 04/19/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Cheese wax is typically derived from petroleum/mineral oils so it should be vegan. I don't know which coloring they use, but an inquiry to the manufacturer should clear up the composition.


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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: utini]
    #14320222 - 04/19/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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utini said:
I'm looking to do a load of Shiitake logs and one of the people I'm doing them for happens to be Vegan. Do any of you have suggestions for sealing my plugs so that I'm not using Bee's wax or Cheese wax?




Hahahah...oh man, vegans are hilarious. I wouldn't even mention what went into the production. They'll find a problem with it somewhere, at the molecular level if need be. :smbfacepalm:

Best thing to feed a vegan? The history of the human race's culinary habits.


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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: afrosheen]
    #14320251 - 04/19/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:lmao: I have to agree...I am reminded of George Carlin,
announcing that saliva causes cancer....but only if taken
in small amounts, over a long period of time.

God love 'em, but they usually look so hungry.

(vegans: feel free to read that as "not fat" ;0)

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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: Javadog]
    #14320268 - 04/19/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: Javadog]
    #14320284 - 04/19/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I was going to keep my big mouth shut but seeing as there are others
on this board who share my opinion I thought I would post an interesting
article I found earlier today for everyone:

http://letthemeatmeat.com/post/441289060/interview-with-an-ex-vegan-kaleigh-mason

I mean no dis-respect, to each their own but every story has two sides.


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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14320379 - 04/19/11 10:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I was going to keep my big mouth shut but seeing as there are others
on this board who share my opinion I thought I would post an interesting
article I found earlier today for everyone:

http://letthemeatmeat.com/post/441289060/interview-with-an-ex-vegan-kaleigh-mason

I mean no dis-respect, to each their own but every story has two sides.




That article is typical of people who decide to go on a food crusade without all the info (I'm looking at young people, girls in particular). A real, practicing vegan should NEVER have a deficiency in those vitamins. Broccoli is extremely high in b12, carrots for retinol, the list goes on. She should have done her research before jumping on the bandwagon.


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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #14320423 - 04/19/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

To me it is just not a healthy way of life. Everything in moderation.

Think of all the habitats, animals and insects harmed, endangered, or re-located
because of farming the vegetables vegans eat. Is an ant, butterfly,
mite, grub or beetle any less precious then animals with faces?

This is just my opinion and I reserve the right to have it. I will not
get into any further debate, and to the OP and others looking for alternatives
for sealing plug spawn, good luck and keep on keeping on.

No hard feelings.

P.S I think Larry might be onto something with using tree saps.


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Re: Vegan Product for Sealing Plug Spawn? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14320437 - 04/19/11 10:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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For me it doesn't matter whether or not they were harmed, its that the bees aren't willingly providing us with resources. I don't wear wool either. No one, animal or human kind (is there even a difference?) is coming up to me and shaving my back or skinning my hide for warmth.




Interesting philosophy.  I take it you don't have a job?  Because if you do, your boss is skinning your hide and giving you a penance to keep you alive to come back to work tomorrow.  I treat my bees better than that.

For the record, the hive is benefited from taking some of the honey and wax out.  I don't use 'standard' frames any more, where you extract the honey and put the frame with comb back in for them to refill.  Doing so leads to colony collapse disorder and other problems because the comb absorbs toxins which slowly build up and kill the bees.  When you let them build their own comb on wires, you remove it when you harvest the honey, preventing that buildup.

I'm assuming you don't eat fruits and vegetables either?  If you do, please consider the trauma caused to microbes in the soil when their home is destroyed by picking the crops. Think of the poor birds and worms who won't get to munch those strawberries if you eat them instead. If you think shaving wool is bad for the sheep, imagine what ripping a carrot out of the ground does to the poor grub worms who are just as much a part of nature as humans and cows. :shrug:
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