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Re: Could the whole psychedelic state be bullshit? [Re: Subconscious]
    #14330211 - 04/21/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Is it possible? You guys ever think.... that maybe....

this whole discussion....

IS BORING AS SHIT???



Let's get back to talking about the aliens some of us see on mushrooms... I mean, as long as everything is bullshit right?


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Re: Could the whole psychedelic state be bullshit? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #14330285 - 04/21/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I remember on my first high dose of 2c-e my friend and I laughed for almost an hour at the world, life, possessions, ego, everything about life. Its like the world was one big joke and we has just figured out the pun. I came down quicker than him as this happened towards the tail end of me being awake but he continued to cry/laugh for another hour after I did. Life would be boring if it wasnt for all that bullshit, thats why people have created it. Its like psychedelics are the forbidden fruit and after youve tasted it you cant unlive the experience (becoming "enlightened"). This whole explanation is bullshit because really we know nothing, we just know how to interpret and perceive what our senses tell us.

Thats not entirely how I think but when I trip thats the mindset I end up getting.


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Re: Could the whole psychedelic state be bullshit? [Re: thissongis]
    #14330503 - 04/21/11 10:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

At the core of this discussion is the timeless question "What is the meaning of life?" Is there any meaning to life, or do we just live and die...nothing else?

I believe that a better question to ask is "what effect has the psychedelic experience had upon your life?"

I must say that I've been exploring the whole "psychedelic experience" question lately. My answer is likely to change as I continue this exploration. I like many of you have not arrived at any definite conclusions.


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Re: Could the whole psychedelic state be bullshit? [Re: FleshCap]
    #14331373 - 04/22/11 01:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I find happiness in psychedelics, and even a little bit of bullshit I'd call spirituality. I'm not gonna say anything is definite or that I'm correct, but its working for me. Just find happiness. That's literally the answer to life. To live and be happy. So find your own happiness.


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Re: Could the whole psychedelic state be bullshit? [Re: Joolz]
    #14331416 - 04/22/11 01:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

An important aspect of psychedelics that should be taken into account is the power they behold to unlock memories deep in your subconscious. As many have already written, it's your own interpretation of these psychedelic experiences that will determine their validity. if psychedelics are used for medical purposes, ie: unlocking memories or past events in order to help one move on, then in that sense, these drugs are not bullshit and should be taken with the utter most respect.
~Tizzy


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Re: Could the whole psychedelic state be bullshit? [Re: FleshCap]
    #14331774 - 04/22/11 05:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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FleshCap said:
I like many of you have not arrived at any definite conclusions.




QFT

...and I don't trust anyone who has!


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Re: Could the whole psychedelic state be bullshit? [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #14331993 - 04/22/11 07:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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FleshCap said:
I like many of you have not arrived at any definite conclusions.




QFT

...and I don't trust anyone who has!




I have come to the conclusion that my schizophrenic next door neighbor who claimed the president was putting secret cameras in his shower head is delusional.  "Yeah, maaaan, but that's your opinion you arrogant fuck."  No, that's the truth, a definite conclusion.  See, so there can be an answer. 


My epiphanies and insights derived from the psychedelic experience were also delusional, kinda like my schizo neighbor.  Most of the insights and epiphanies I read on shroomery are varying levels of "Hey, you needed drugs for that insight? That was obvious" to "That's delusional."  I can accurately call my neighbor delusional based on his insane claims, and smell the same bullshit all day long on certain parts of the internet.  These claims are rationalizations and excuses to continue taking these drugs.  Hey, its like medicine.  It's good for me! 

Everything is not relative, despite how forcefully these drugs push your mind in that direction.  That's actually an interesting observation about the effects of these drugs, they expand your mind so much that your Bullshit filters get all clogged up.


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Re: Could the whole psychedelic state be bullshit? [Re: joemolloy]
    #14332069 - 04/22/11 07:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Everything is not relative, despite how forcefully these drugs push your mind in that direction.  That's actually an interesting observation about the effects of these drugs, they expand your mind so much that your Bullshit filters get all clogged up.




Everything is relative to the individual, and these drugs merely give the individual an altered perspective of reality. It's still relative to the individual, and they take from that what ever they wish from the experiences... I think many people do take away delusions.

I think it's not necessarily the drugs, but the way people are conditioned to think. Everyone wants to be special and be a part of something bigger than themselves so man has always been inventing all kind of crazy scenarios about his relationship to the universe. I think many people just want to believe in bullshit, psychedelics intensify your emotions and alter your thought patterns which makes this very easy to do. Even so, millions of people who have never done psychedelics are filled with delusions...


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Re: Could the whole psychedelic state be bullshit? [Re: joemolloy]
    #14332099 - 04/22/11 07:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I dont think all my trips are bull shit, although I definately have had a few retarded trips that made me doubt it all.

In the right set, setting, and dose I do always reach a head-space of "clarity" where all of lifes puzzles just seem to solve themselves. I guess thats why I read other peoples experiences here


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Re: Could the whole psychedelic state be bullshit? [Re: phxBoomer]
    #14332335 - 04/22/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Everything is bullshit at some point or another. but if psychedelics helps you make something meaningful or just provides you w/the escape (meaninful for some)AINT THAT WHAT COUNTS (to each person, individually)!


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