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600x Salvia? Salvia Plants?
    #14307349 - 04/17/11 06:16 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

So I have two questions. My friends and I want to try Salvia, but its a lot cheaper to each pitch on a bag of 600x rather then getting our own bags of smaller potency. So do you think it would be safe if we pitched on the 600x bag and then divided it up amongst us and each only smoked a small amount? Or would we end up ridiculously fried??

Also, I wanted to buy a Salvia plant and grow it, but I heard that this isn't particularly useful. Apparently it would take way to long to get enough material to smoke, assuming I could smoke it all so quickly and actually trip like I want to. So is it worth getting a plant?

Thanks for any answers I get!


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #14307371 - 04/17/11 06:21 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

holy hell, 600x?
ive never heard of that.

i used to go to smoke shops and buy 80x for 60$ a gram.
if u didnt smoke it out a bong or a bubbler your throat would die and it wouldnt work very well.
Also a gram would last almost 20 hits.
Take one hit, set the piece down so u dont break it
and i really couldnt remember the rest.
It had my friend rocking back and forth yelling stop what are you doing and no one was ding anything but sitting there quiet.
no one could remember it very well, felt like pins and needles everywhere and u were getting sucked into a chair then blacked out.


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #14307382 - 04/17/11 06:23 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

600x is way too much and is likely a marketing ploy

i doubt it is worth your money.

i'd recommend some 20X, get a little container of it for like 15 bucks or something.



and as for the plants...  i prefer smoking plain, dried salvia leaf more than extract.

it is a different high, and i wouldn't say its very trippy, but it's calming and gets you in a nice mindset. 

respect the plant. it is rare, beautiful, divine, and easy to grow.


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #14307391 - 04/17/11 06:24 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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bag of 600x




60x you mean?

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Or would we end up ridiculously fried??




You have much to learn my friend, start small, for 60x could be way too powerful for you.

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it is a different high, and i wouldn't say its very trippy, but it's calming and gets you in a nice mindset. 





The hardest I have ever tripped in my life was from Salvia, and it was far faaaar from calming for me.


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #14307415 - 04/17/11 06:27 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

Buy the 600x if it is actually REALLY 600x and infuse it onto dried Parsley or another smoking medium to cut it down.   

1gram of 600x could fuel up 30 grams of 20x which is HELLA potent enough.

600x though; Is that even possible really?  What point would it have to be pure Salvinorin?


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: Dickhead]
    #14307453 - 04/17/11 06:32 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

the way salvia works is, 20x would be 20 grams of standard plant alcohol extracted into 1 gram of standard. Usually thats how it works.
so 600 grams extracted into 1 gram just doesnt seem possible. wouldnt there be more than a gram of just pure tripping dust.

and like someone said, 80x was WAY MORE than calming. if anyting your gonna have a nightmare.

my first time was 40x, and i thought that was almost too much and i love tripping and hallucinogens.


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: Squiddie]
    #14307483 - 04/17/11 06:36 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

Yeah man, for me Salvia had the ego death of other psychedelics, except with Salvia it was like I was picked up, had my ego ripped from me instantly, and obliterated into millions of little pieces. There was no time to ease into it like with magic mushrooms for example, everything was instant.


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: Squiddie]
    #14307496 - 04/17/11 06:39 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

I know how it works...  Which is why I doubt it.

I had only ever weighed my dry leaf and final product. 

Someone here would know how much salvinorin you could get from 600grams of leaf, likely.  More than a gram, then no..  It isn't really possible.


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: Zalnar]
    #14307501 - 04/17/11 06:40 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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60x you mean?





No, bag definitely said 600x. But now that everyone mentions it, that does sound ridiculously potent.

I think we will just each buy a bag of 20x or 40x.  Although the guy at the smoke shop said to go for at least 100x, does that just mean that the brand they sell is crap and I should go for a different brand at a different shop?


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #14307522 - 04/17/11 06:45 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

Was the "600x" the "Purple sticky" brand perhaps? I know with the purple sticky brand they put 20 on the front when it's really 5x


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: Zalnar]
    #14307535 - 04/17/11 06:47 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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Was the "600x" the "Purple sticky" brand perhaps? I know with the purple sticky brand they put 20 on the front when it's really 5x




No it wasn't purple sticky. What's funny is that purple sticky and this brand(I can't remember what its called) are the only two in my town. So I guess I just gotta take my chances on one of them.


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: jingus]
    #14307593 - 04/17/11 06:59 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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and as for the plants...  i prefer smoking plain, dried salvia leaf more than extract.

it is a different high, and i wouldn't say its very trippy, but it's calming and gets you in a nice mindset. 







but then again, i smoke a full waterfall bowl of 20X  and get nowhere near obliterated.  I definitely get high and enjoy it, but i guess different people react differently to salvia.


when i smoke the dried leaf i was referring to, i don't smoke it to get fucked up, but just take a hit here and there.  I've done this twice now while playing chess, and it's real mellow and enjoyable

i wasn't referring to the extracts



ALSO, i think the main problem with getting too strong of an extract would be getting fucked up to the point of amnesia.  If you're sensitive, it could make a huge difference.  go with your experience and intuition on this one.  more importantly, go into it with the mindset of trying to learn and experience the plant.  don't try to push your agendas of what you expect to get out of a trip


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: jingus]
    #14307611 - 04/17/11 07:02 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

600 FX is what you mean... New product scheme. Means about 60x.


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: HeiligBoomerz]
    #14307635 - 04/17/11 07:07 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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600 FX is what you mean... New product scheme. Means about 60x.





Thanks, that makes sense. So if I bought this brand I should buy somewhere around 200-400 FX then and that would be the same as 20-40x?


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    #14307669 - 04/17/11 07:13 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

400x would be pure extract. 600x isn't even possible and this fx shit just sounds weird. Like wtf does that even mean?
And you don't want anything really crazy strong, salvia is the most serious trip imo.
and yeah 20-40x may be good, everytime you smoke it though it will be stronger.


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #14307680 - 04/17/11 07:15 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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Quote:

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600 FX is what you mean... New product scheme. Means about 60x.





Thanks, that makes sense. So if I bought this brand I should buy somewhere around 200-400 FX then and that would be the same as 20-40x?




Correct.

A personal friend of mine makes S. divinorum extract, hes tested over 10 brands for different potencies and says they are all way under.

One package said 40x, but only tested for 25x.

So buying 400fx will probably get you around 30x.


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: Dickhead]
    #14308254 - 04/17/11 09:01 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

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Buy the 600x if it is actually REALLY 600x and infuse it onto dried Parsley or another smoking medium to cut it down.   

1gram of 600x could fuel up 30 grams of 20x which is HELLA potent enough.

600x though; Is that even possible really?  What point would it have to be pure Salvinorin?




from my understanding pure Salvinorin A would be 400x so no I doubt they sell 600x

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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: jingus]
    #14308505 - 04/17/11 09:56 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

No possible number of 400X or 600X or 1000X would be pure salvinorin a.


to make the extracts, they infuse leaf materials with different potency extracts, and even those are crude extracts


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Re: 600x Salvia? Salvia Plants? [Re: jingus]
    #14308559 - 04/17/11 10:08 PM (10 years, 28 days ago)

I doubt even salvinorium alpha (extract from salvia extract) is as potent as your package claims. Salvia Alpha is as big as a grain of salt anyways and near impossible to obtain.


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