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The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :)
    #14307056 - 04/17/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'll start!

SPIRITUAL PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF FUCKING MORONS. THEY HAVE THESE EXPERIENCES WHICH ARE NO DOUBT CAUSE BY TOO MANY ACIDS AND INSTEAD OF ANALYZING THEM IN SUPER XXHARCOREXXSCIENCE@@!XX MODE THEY JUST GO AROUND ENJOYING LIFE LIKE A BUNCH OF LOOOOOOSERS! UNDOUBTEDLY FOR THESE PEOPLE FANTASY AND REALITY HAS BECOMING INTERTWINED IN SUCH A WAY AS TO MAKE ****objective*****REALITY IMPOSSIBLE TO ARGUE ABOUT SO FUCK THEM ANYWAYS I'M GONNA GO MASTURBATE

moderators, please don't ban this as I think it has valuable philosophical content


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: g00ru]
    #14307066 - 04/17/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Someone's probably gonna delete it especially since you asked them not to :hehehe:


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: g00ru] * 1
    #14307068 - 04/17/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Are you trying to imply that looking at experiences with super hardcore science precludes going around and enjoying life?  You couldn't be more wrong.

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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: DieCommie]
    #14307073 - 04/17/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What makes someone a spiritual person?


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: NoOneImportant] * 1
    #14307084 - 04/17/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Why are you letting it get to you, guruu? Obviously you're inherently better and more enlightened than all us poor delusional saps. Our experiences can just be discounted off-hand, because you "can totally tell when someone 'gets it.'"


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: DieCommie]
    #14307105 - 04/17/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"I had rather believe all the legends in the Talmund, and the Alcoran, than that this universal Frame is without a mind. For it is a thousand times more credible that for mutable elements and one immutable first essence duly and eternally placed need no God than that an army of infinite small protions, or seeds unplaced, should have produced this order and beauty, without a divine Marshal. They that deny a God destroy mans nobility, for certainly man is of kin to the beasts by his body; and if he be not of kin to Bod by his spirit, he is a base and ignoble creature. Read not to contradict and confute, nor to believe and take for granted; nor to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider." -Sir Francis Bacon

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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: NoOneImportant]
    #14307314 - 04/17/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Loki570 said:
What makes someone a spiritual person?




It is someone unable or unwilling to answer a simple, direct question. Then they start a whiney thread because they are very reactionary. Eventually they migrate to the safe haven of M&P because of the courge their inner vision gives them.

Just sayin'... :shrug:


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: g00ru] * 2
    #14308217 - 04/17/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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SPIRITUAL PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF FUCKING MORONS.


QFT:stoned:


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: Greenvalley]
    #14309095 - 04/17/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

lol i was tripping too hard when i wrote this.

i'll try to bring it down to earth.

I notice on this forum that a disproportionate amount of the posts, often times amongst forum regulars (not looking at anybody in particular  :whistling:) are just back and forth banter making fun of spiritual people.  Seriously, it's not philosophical discussion.  And I think there is this entire character being created of the "true believer" or whatever the fuck that is intended entirely to devalue the quote unquote spiritual point of view.

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"I had rather believe all the legends in the Talmund, and the Alcoran, than that this universal Frame is without a mind. For it is a thousand times more credible that for mutable elements and one immutable first essence duly and eternally placed need no God than that an army of infinite small protions, or seeds unplaced, should have produced this order and beauty, without a divine Marshal. They that deny a God destroy mans nobility, for certainly man is of kin to the beasts by his body; and if he be not of kin to Bod by his spirit, he is a base and ignoble creature. Read not to contradict and confute, nor to believe and take for granted; nor to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider." -Sir Francis Bacon




Pretty dank quote that really says it all in many respects.  This is a philosophy forum, but we can't discuss spirit or God without being asked to prove it.  Spirit is the immutable first essence being described in that quote, and it's synonymous with being and with your own self.  Like, as in you. Yeah, you :awesome:. It's fucking crazy cause it defies all semantic logic entirely....you can't prove it with words! It's that which words appear in, which logic appears in.

Here's the thing: plenty of people, upon realizing that spirit, let go of the need to prove things in their head, to have a very finely detailed structure of concepts built up.  So, to the skeptic, this appears as them being "weak minded" or simple and using broad concepts when really much more specific concepts would be in order.  Personally, I don't think simplicity in thought is evidence of a weak mind, but that's besides the point.  What I'm really trying to say I guess is that this forum could actually be a way to develop rigorous models of our universe that are highly useful and progressive, but instead we're bogged down by a mindset that makes discussion of that level impossible, all because people think spirituality is bullshit, which is just such a misguided view of reality its not even funny.

All I ask is that you temporarily suspend your judgement of spirituality, stop pretending that you fully understand it, because you absolutely don't.  Is it really that impossible that I and others (on this very website, for the record) may have realized something that you have not?


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: g00ru] * 2
    #14309144 - 04/17/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That post wreaks to me of holier than though, snide bull.  Get off your high horse, your 'spiritual' ramblings are made fun of because they are crazy and filled with unjustified arrogance.

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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: g00ru]
    #14309198 - 04/17/11 09:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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This is a philosophy forum, but we can't discuss spirit or God without being asked to prove it.


It's a debate-oriented philosophy forum--if you don't like that, then why do you even post here?


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Spirit is the immutable first essence being described in that quote, and it's synonymous with being and with your own self.  Like, as in you. Yeah, you :awesome:. It's fucking crazy cause it defies all semantic logic entirely....you can't prove it with words! It's that which words appear in, which logic appears in.


What? :what:


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Here's the thing: plenty of people, upon realizing that spirit, let go of the need to prove things in their head, to have a very finely detailed structure of concepts built up.  So, to the skeptic, this appears as them being "weak minded" or simple and using broad concepts when really much more specific concepts would be in order.  Personally, I don't think simplicity in thought is evidence of a weak mind, but that's besides the point.  What I'm really trying to say I guess is that this forum could actually be a way to develop rigorous models of our universe that are highly useful and progressive, but instead we're bogged down by a mindset that makes discussion of that level impossible, all because people think spirituality is bullshit, which is just such a misguided view of reality its not even funny.


This forum is about discovering the truth IMO, and the best way to do that is to debate--if you don't like debate, then GTFO. :boot:


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All I ask is that you temporarily suspend your judgement of spirituality, stop pretending that you fully understand it, because you absolutely don't.


How would you know what we understand? Oh yeah, I forgot, you're psychic. :levitate:


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Is it really that impossible that I and others (on this very website, for the record) may have realized something that you have not?


No, but it seems to be impossible for you and your ilk to prove that they've realized anything of value. :lol:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Edited by Poid (04/17/11 09:48 PM)

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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: Poid] * 2
    #14309263 - 04/17/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I give you a hard time a lot just because of your attitude. I have no problem, really, with people who choose to call experience "spiritual." What I do have a problem with is those people thinking that they've penetrated closer to some ultimate Truth (which, if they really disbelieve in objective reality, shouldn't exist) and are therefore superior to everyone else.


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: DieCommie]
    #14309268 - 04/17/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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That post wreaks to me of holier than though, snide bull.  Get off your high horse, your 'spiritual' ramblings are made fun of because they are crazy and filled with unjustified arrogance.




nah man, i am up on my high horse and loving every minute of it. I'm sorry to come off as arrogant or as if I'm an authority or something, but I'm not lying to you, I did realize a truth, and I did it simply by focusing on the feeling of "I AM" that is present at all times. Try it and see, you really need to fully look at your own self.  Nothing anybody can say can get you to look, that's what's frustrating from my point of view.  I'm done beating around the bush. Everybody on this forum can wake up, there's no reason you can't.  Don't just read that and get pissed that I think I'm awakened and you're not.  It's not really like that; I have nothing but goodwill towards you weather or not you take my advice, and anyways I wouldn't call myself fully awake, I'm a fellow dreamer just like all you guys.

Here, this is a very appropriate mooji video, i challenge you to sit through all ten minutes of it and give it your full attention for those ten minutes. I guess this thread is really just me being on a soapbox preaching the good word, but sorry to say it really is the good word and i really am preaching it, so with that I bid this forum adieu for a time:



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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: g00ru]
    #14309331 - 04/17/11 10:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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...I did realize a truth...


Please elaborate.


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...and I did it simply by focusing on the feeling of "I AM" that is present at all times.


Did you ever stop to wonder that maybe some people don't feel this "I AM" nonsense?


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Try it and see, you really need to fully look at your own self.  Nothing anybody can say can get you to look, that's what's frustrating from my point of view.


So you're equating contemplation of oneself with focusing on "I AM"? Ever stop to think that people can contemplate on themselves fine without even thinking about "I AM"?


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...I'm a fellow dreamer just like all you guys.


No, your dreams are stupid (unlike mine), and they suck ass (unlike mine). :ass:


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Here, this is a very appropriate mooji video, i challenge you to sit through all ten minutes of it and give it your full attention for those ten minutes. I guess this thread is really just me being on a soapbox preaching the good word, but sorry to say it really is the good word and i really am preaching it, so with that I bid this forum adieu for a time:




Classic proselytizing. :popcorn:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: g00ru]
    #14309493 - 04/17/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If by spiritual people you mean people who have been successfully able to block their death anxiety with various beliefs, then I'm actually envious of these.  I know I'd definitely be a lot happier if I was convinced I would live forever.


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #14309518 - 04/17/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah me too. :frown:


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: Poid] * 1
    #14309536 - 04/17/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Non-existence is actually the least of my worries. After all, if I didn't exist, I literally couldn't give less of a fuck about anything ever, least of all my own non-existence.


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: NetDiver]
    #14309568 - 04/17/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Great shield. :satansmoking:


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: Poid]
    #14309573 - 04/17/11 11:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, I'm not still scared of the boogeyman. :smirk:


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Re: The Official "Make fun of spiritual people thread"!!! :) [Re: NetDiver] * 1
    #14310579 - 04/18/11 06:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I say that people who do not know ALL about science and believe in it, are dumb believers. Same shit, different name. Both sides even use same ignorance tactics when arguing. You are ALL stupid cunts!


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