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8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think?
    #14307023 - 04/17/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have three different strains growing in my Shotgun FC.  They were all birthed, dunked and rolled 8 days ago.  The humidity is at around 90-95% the temp is averaging 70. It looks like there is white spiky mycelia growing around some of the cakes., But no pins. 

Is my temp to low?  I am misting and fanning 5 to 6 times a day, and all in all the Fc looks and smells good. I have the FC in a room that gets lots of indirect sunlight, and my FC is a foot or so off the ground. When can I hope to see pins?


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: afrogus]
    #14307034 - 04/17/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You will see pins in the next few days.


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: afrogus]
    #14307037 - 04/17/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Patience grasshopper the myc is called aerial myc and will start knotting soon which will then turn to pins


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14307051 - 04/17/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You're fine :smile: maybe a week tops


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: BargainBab]
    #14307439 - 04/17/11 04:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Should I raise my temps?


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: afrogus]
    #14307529 - 04/17/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I feel like 70 is a little low. Maybe a little higher imo, like 75-80.


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: afrogus]
    #14307530 - 04/17/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nope, temps are great. I have a tiny fan that I keep on my SGFC a few feet away for some air circulation. i let it run just a few hours a day


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: velvetmagician]
    #14307569 - 04/17/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

this is happening to my Tak Mountain cakes, and I wasn't worried, then I was, and on and off, the pins are coming in now, i'm glad i saw this thread tho, I was still a little worried. thanks afrogus! :mushroom2:


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: velvetmagician]
    #14307572 - 04/17/11 04:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hey jus wondering if somone could help me identify this....im talking about the little black spot at the top of the jar im hoping the picture uploads if not ill try again


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307590 - 04/17/11 04:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Hey jus wondering if somone could help me identify this....im talking about the little black spot at the top of the jar im hoping the picture uploads if not ill try again



It could b black mold.  Thats my fucking nemisis.  Look at it and if its mold you will see speckles of black all bside each other


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307595 - 04/17/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ok maybe now....



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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307601 - 04/17/11 05:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The pic is bad but I dont think its black mold but I think its a contam of some sort


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307603 - 04/17/11 05:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

its kinda a bad pic... also its been the same size for like 3 days now and the rest looks like healthy myc


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307613 - 04/17/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

tru ok maybe i could cut that peice off?.... or if its a contam should i just toss it ?


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307616 - 04/17/11 05:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You could cut it and segragate it in a pop bottle fc and see what happens, but I wouldnt leave that close to any projects I had hope for.


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14307626 - 04/17/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah its been quarantined since ive  noticed the hellish abomination.. im just thinkin that some of the contams ive seen on the web are alot worse and progress at a quicker rate


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307630 - 04/17/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Id bet its a contam. You mayb lucky to be able to get one flush from it tho


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307657 - 04/17/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

its  like 90  colonized and i want to tAke a better pic being it when the cake is out of the jar but i want it to finish colonizing... i think im gonna wait it out a few days and if its grows ill toss it out
and also is 90% rH ok?


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14307673 - 04/17/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

is that a jar of water in your fc?


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307719 - 04/17/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

and i got another question.... if you pour water into the perlite will that increase rH?


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307727 - 04/17/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i have no jars of water in my fc just perlite and cakes and a hydrometer which reads 90 and temp 76 if you were asking me


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307730 - 04/17/11 05:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No what causes the right amount of RH is the holes in your FC flowing over the water saturated perlite and evaping it into humidity.  The perlite needs to be damp, but adding water isnt going to increase your RH unless there is no water.  If you follow the directions and build a SGFC the right way RH isnt an issue


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14307761 - 04/17/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ok i followed it and my rH is 90+.. so i hope ill be ok... i put a gt cake in right after full colinizing and 3 i have at full colonizination but im keeping them in the jars for a week..is this a good idea b/c the jars look really wet inside but maybe thats a good things and advice would be obliged.


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307783 - 04/17/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wait the week in the jar or your just gonna wait the week in your FC instead of the jar.  Have you calibrated your hygrometer?  That could be the reason your RH is only showing 90%.  Even if it's 90% there shouldnt be any problems with RH


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14307806 - 04/17/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i dont even know where i put the packaging so i didnt calibrate it... it looks like a thermometer with the humidity part at the bottom.. is there like a generic way these things calibrate or do i need the packaging


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307820 - 04/17/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

btw as far as the post topic my cake in my fc has a lkittle of that spiky myc thing going on too...its been in the fc for 3 maybe 4 days


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307830 - 04/17/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i dont even know where i put the packaging so i didnt calibrate it... it looks like a thermometer with the humidity part at the bottom.. is there like a generic way these things calibrate or do i need the packaging



There should be a dial somewhere on it and what you do is wrap the hygrometer in a wet towel and set that as 100%

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btw as far as the post topic my cake in my fc has a lkittle of that spiky myc thing going on too...its been in the fc for 3 maybe 4 days



Like I said earlier its called aerial mycellium and its right before you see knotting so your fine


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14307853 - 04/17/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

very nice... thanks for the help dude


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14307855 - 04/17/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14307970 - 04/17/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I though i saw a jar in the background, seemed random.
7 days is the minimum for pins to show. give it a couple more days. as far as i know u probably didnt consolidate. which would mean you would just have to wait longer.
besideds that, if i were u, i would fan more and cut off the extra plastic around the holes on the tub with a knife, it will help let air pass through. it will also help with pinning. Also maybe instead of having squares under your cakes, make them into circles with the circumference of the cake. it will allow more water to evaporate overall in the fc.FAE is where its at.
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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14308114 - 04/17/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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and i got another question.... if you pour water into the perlite will that increase rH?




It will actually decrease humidity if you do that and increase the risk of contams from sitting water


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14308218 - 04/17/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have a jar of water in my fc to try and keep it more humid.  Why?  Is this a bad idea?


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: afrogus]
    #14308237 - 04/17/11 06:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I have a jar of water in my fc to try and keep it more humid.  Why?  Is this a bad idea?



standing water attracts contams so its not a good idea


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14308262 - 04/17/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If your pH meter is reading 90 it could be maxed out. Has it read any higher? You can wrap it in a wet cloth or towel or even a paper towel for 20-30 mins and see if it gets any higher than 90. Whatever it reads will be the max. My best one which a cheap $8 from Home Depot reads 97 as it's max and a more expensive one from Petco reads 87 as it's max.


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: OneU]
    #14308322 - 04/17/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

if you want a proper hydrometer stay away from digital and get one you can calibrate


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14308334 - 04/17/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Digital is useless in an FC it will burn out so fast


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14318090 - 04/19/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i got a pic of something can someone help me
identify what it is?


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14318101 - 04/19/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thanks for the water comment too, i didnt put water in my fc

i wanna fruit this cake but i wanna make sure its not a contam


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: mulner420]
    #14318528 - 04/19/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Can't see it that well but it looks like pins to me but don't trust my eyes lol


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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14318552 - 04/19/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Can't see it that well but it looks like pins to me but don't trust my eyes lol



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Re: 8 days no pins, white spiky mycelia? What do you think? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14318630 - 04/19/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

usually, but you can hope.  time will tell.


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    #14318844 - 04/19/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Can't see it that well but it looks like pins to me but don't trust my eyes lol



pins are usually white not brownish




Hyphal Knots are white Primordia or "pins" have started to get color thats why i suggested they might be pins but in the pic its hard to tell because all i see is blurry dark round spots


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usually, but you can hope.  time will tell.




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