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The Whale

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The Shroomery is Not a Democracy
#14306312 - 04/17/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm not trolling, I just want to promote discussion on why it is such a BAT SHIT CRAZY idea for members to hold majority votes on the way the Shroomery functions as a website and as a community: things like website features, moderator selection, rules, etc.
The majority of all the content, if not all of it, is user generated or user submitted - so why can't we manage ourselves? Installing a voting system would be ridiculously easy from a programming perspective.
It just appears to me to be hypocritical and slightly ironic that a drug forum which emphasizes the importance and autonomy of the individual still submits it to a hierarchy of control for no apparent reason. So, what gives?
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: The Whale] 2
#14306325 - 04/17/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: The Whale] 10
#14306335 - 04/17/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Because giving the control to a bunch of drugged up teens sounds like a good idea
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: Led Zeppelin] 12
#14306336 - 04/17/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you want to see how anonymous internet users manage themselves, go check out OTD or 4chan.
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: 4runner]
#14306346 - 04/17/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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if you were around on april 1st, you would know what happens when the "shitty way the website is run" is taken down.
it goes to shit REALLY QUICK.
scat porn, rebecca black, and general chaos would reign supreme
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: fiddle]
#14306350 - 04/17/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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maddlevi said: If you want to see how anonymous internet users manage themselves, go check out OTD or 4chan.
QTF
As much as it goes against my philosophical principles, you have to have some responsible people in control on the internet. People don't give a shit about the consequences of their actions on the interbuttz so forums without moderation very soon become shitholes.
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: 4runner] 2
#14306351 - 04/17/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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anunnakian said: Because giving the control to a bunch of drugged up teens sounds like a good idea 
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: fiddle] 2
#14306355 - 04/17/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im for it 
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anunnakian said: Because giving the control to a bunch of drugged up teens sounds like a good idea 
lol, its an internet drug forum who cares?? Who do you think is moderating anyways?? Valedictorians and Ivy league graduates

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maddlevi said: If you want to see how anonymous internet users manage themselves, go check out OTD or 4chan.
How do they manage themselves??
They dont. I dont know what ur talking about.
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Learyfan
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: The Whale] 1
#14306372 - 04/17/11 01:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Imagine you throw a party at your house and then people start complaining that they can't make their own rules. Then you'll understand.
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: Learyfan]
#14306375 - 04/17/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Learyfan said: Imagine you throw a party at your house and then people start complaining that they can't make their own rules. Then you'll understand.

but thats just dumb
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: Learyfan]
#14306382 - 04/17/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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otd anyone?
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athedrivein61
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JesusGoneRogue said: otd anyone?
There is an OTD for a reason. Giving people choice does not lead to OTD. Unless the trolls outnumber the rest.
Oh wait...
Ya never mind this idea.
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: athedrivein61]
#14306413 - 04/17/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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athedrivein61 said: but thats just dumb 
So if you're throwing a party and people want to fuck shit up, you'll let them.
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athedrivein61 said: lol, its an internet drug forum who cares?? Who do you think is moderating anyways?? Valedictorians and Ivy league graduates
Well the difference is that "admins" are going to think about discussions before changes are made based on previous experience and what is best for the community as whole. Some regular user will just vote for what sounds best at that particular moment with out giving it a second thought or any thoughts of why it might not work.
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: athedrivein61] 2
#14306419 - 04/17/11 01:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's nobody's house and it's nobody's party. The internet is a platform for sharing, not an opportunity to plant another flag or property sign.
The voting system on individual posts could easily hide and/or remove offensive or inappropriate content. The Reddit system of posting comments works this way, where offensive posts are individually buried according to down votes by the users - moderators are rarely needed. Besides, we would STILL HAVE RULES, they would just be democratically selected. It isn't a far-fetched idea.
And as another member pointed out, there are already tons of pics of weed nugs, tits and ass, Obama giving high fives, crack heads and meth heads, spoofs, jokes, etc. What are you afraid of? I personally believe it's the idea of authority we are addicted to, whereby control is mis-attributed. Things would look basically the same - there won't be an influx of "SHROOMERY DESTROYERS" [If we won't protect America, the terrorists will destroy us... sound familiar?].
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: The Whale] 7
#14306428 - 04/17/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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the shroomery is just fine the way it is.
cry more.
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: The Whale] 2
#14306429 - 04/17/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Whale said: It's nobody's house and it's nobody's party.
Wrong. It's Ythan and the Admins house and party. If you don't like this house and this party, go to another house and party.
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: The Whale]
#14306441 - 04/17/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Whale said: It's nobody's house and it's nobody's party. The internet is a platform for sharing, not an opportunity to plant another flag or property sign.
The voting system on individual posts could easily hide and/or remove offensive or inappropriate content. The Reddit system of posting comments works this way, where offensive posts are individually buried according to down votes by the users - moderators are rarely needed. Besides, we would STILL HAVE RULES, they would just be democratically selected. It isn't a far-fetched idea.
And as another member pointed out, there are already tons of pics of weed nugs, tits and ass, Obama giving high fives, crack heads and meth heads, spoofs, jokes, etc. What are you afraid of? I personally believe it's the idea of authority we are addicted to, whereby control is mis-attributed. Things would look basically the same - there won't be an influx of "SHROOMERY DESTROYERS" [If we won't protect America, the terrorists will destroy us... sound familiar?].
“Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.” Albert Einstein
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: The Whale] 1
#14306444 - 04/17/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Whale said: It's nobody's house
Ythan might think differently.
Seems like someone thinks they deserve a piece of everything. If you don't like you are free to go elsewhere and troll.
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Re: The Shroomery is Not a Democracy [Re: 4runner]
#14306449 - 04/17/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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anunnakian said:
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The Whale said: It's nobody's house
Ythan might think differently.
Seems like someone thinks they deserve a piece of everything. If you don't like you are free to go elsewhere and troll.
Ythan himself said he pretty much doesnt care about this place like he used to.
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