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Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical)
    #14303368 - 04/16/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Okay here is the scenario, I own a two bedroom condo with a spare room that I want to run a 220volt outlet to in order to supply several light fixtures, these light fixtures run at 5 amps a piece at 220volts and I would like to be able to run three of them. Now my breaker box doesn't allow me to add a new dedicated breaker because all the space is filled. What I was thinking of doing was removing the 30amp dedicated washer dryer breaker and the lines to the washer dryer and replacing the breaker with a 60 amp breaker running new 6 gauge wire rated for 60 amps to the washer and dryer and from there put a junction or whatever and run the 6 gauge romex wire back up into the attic and back down into the room where the new receptacle will be. Is this sound wiring ? The washer dryer only consume 21 amps together so adding another 15amps to this should still keep me below 75% of the 60amps. Is there something I am missing ? Any alternative suggestions? Please don't tell me to hire an electrician or that I will kill myself. I have enough sense not to get shocked/electrocuted. I some experience inside a breaker and place safety first.

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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #14304828 - 04/17/11 06:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I hope you're not my neighbor.

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I some experience inside a breaker and place safety first.




:rofl2:


It is not sound wiring and I hope you were under the influence of some type of chemical substance when you came up with this plan.


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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14304868 - 04/17/11 06:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

your just the type of poster i knew would respond. Your an asshole. You point out the typo I made and fail to respond with any constructive input.

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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #14305022 - 04/17/11 08:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Pris?

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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #14305619 - 04/17/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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your just the type of poster i knew would respond. Your an asshole. You point out the typo I made and fail to respond with any constructive input.




I actually didn't notice any typo. I am however convinced you know little about breakers and wiring... and safety.


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Please don't tell me to hire an electrician or that I will kill myself.




Note that I did not.


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I have enough sense not to get shocked/electrocuted.




Now that I don't believe.


If you don't grasp the stupidity of what you wish to do, at least electrocute yourself before burning down your neighbors home as well as your own.


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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14305630 - 04/17/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If I was stupid I would do it before asking. Since you have nothing to add or are unable to tell me why this is the incorrect way to go about what I want to achieve then I will assume you have little if any knowledge on the subject yourself.

I have already replaced the wiring for the stove with the approriate gauge romex during a home remodel job in which i took out the drop ceiling in the kitchen and had to run new wire. Its not to difficult to snap off the breaker take out the wiring and replace it. I know the basics of not touching hot wires etc you make it sound like you need to be an engineer or something to work on this stuff when its really comon sense. I admit to not knowing weather or not what I was to do is correct that's why Im asking in the forum. No need to be a pretentious ass.

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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #14305646 - 04/17/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This does sound like a bad idea...just saying. You may not believe that what i said is constructive since i didn't give you any ideas on how to do it, but it sounds like an all around bad idea to do it. Just really think about it before you get into it and i would also consider other options.

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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: puff4200]
    #14305655 - 04/17/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What other options? How is it a bad idea? The breaker and wiring for the appliances will be the appropriate gauges and I will not be over loading the circuit. Does anyone with real experience care to elaborate on this ?

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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #14305686 - 04/17/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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If I was stupid I would do it before asking. Since you have nothing to add or are unable to tell me why this is the incorrect way to go about what I want to achieve then I will assume you have little if any knowledge on the subject yourself.

I have already replaced the wiring for the stove with the approriate gauge romex during a home remodel job in which i took out the drop ceiling in the kitchen and had to run new wire. Its not to difficult to snap off the breaker take out the wiring and replace it. I know the basics of not touching hot wires etc you make it sound like you need to be an engineer or something to work on this stuff when its really comon sense. I admit to not knowing weather or not what I was to do is correct that's why Im asking in the forum. No need to be a pretentious ass.




This is why they have electrical codes.

Hopefully you'll harm yourself before you destroy your neighbors property.

The reason I'm not giving any advice is because your trying to do something that clearly demonstrates why you shouldn't be doing anything in an electrical box. Period.

You are a first class example of the saying... a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

What you wish to do is dangerous, stupid, moronic and life threatening. If it was just your life involved I may have encouraged you to go ahead so I could enjoy the inevitable... "oh noze, my house burnt down!" thread.

If you don't care about your safety and your home, at least have some compassion for the home and safety of your neighbors.

Even if it was just common sense, that is something you seem to be in short supply of.


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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14305695 - 04/17/11 11:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Your an idiot, get lost.

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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #14305703 - 04/17/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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What other options? How is it a bad idea? The breaker and wiring for the appliances will be the appropriate gauges and I will not be over loading the circuit. Does anyone with real experience care to elaborate on this ?




No Capn' Happy, the breaker for the washer/dryer will NOT be the appropriate size. Were that so, there would have been a different breaker there to begin with,.


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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #14305711 - 04/17/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Your an idiot, get lost.




Nope. The idiot is clearly the one who wants to DOUBLE the rating of the circuit breaker with no concern for his home... or more importantly, the home of his neighbor.

And for what??? So you can grow dope? You've clearly used too much already.


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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #14305714 - 04/17/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Okay here is the scenario, I own a two bedroom condo with a spare room that I want to run a 220volt outlet to in order to supply several light fixtures, these light fixtures run at 5 amps a piece at 220volts and I would like to be able to run three of them. Now my breaker box doesn't allow me to add a new dedicated breaker because all the space is filled. What I was thinking of doing was removing the 30amp dedicated washer dryer breaker and the lines to the washer dryer and replacing the breaker with a 60 amp breaker running new 6 gauge wire rated for 60 amps to the washer and dryer and from there put a junction or whatever and run the 6 gauge romex wire back up into the attic and back down into the room where the new receptacle will be. Is this sound wiring ? The washer dryer only consume 21 amps together so adding another 15amps to this should still keep me below 75% of the 60amps. Is there something I am missing ? Any alternative suggestions? Please don't tell me to hire an electrician or that I will kill myself. I have enough sense not to get shocked/electrocuted. I some experience inside a breaker and place safety first.




Quoted for posterity so that when you sober up and realize just what a stupid fucking idea this is, the world will still be able to see it.


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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14305724 - 04/17/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

dude if your doubling the capacity of the breaker your also replacing the wires to make them able to handle that load also. I don't see how this jeopardizes anything. Did you even read my post? I can see how it could be dangerous to change the breaker out to a higher rating and not replace the wiring.

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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14305738 - 04/17/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I do not use drugs or drink you douche. Do you really have nothing better to do then argue on the internet to make yourself feel superior?

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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #14305760 - 04/17/11 11:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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dude if your doubling the capacity of the breaker your also replacing the wires to make them able to handle that load also. I don't see how this jeopardizes anything. Did you even read my post? I can see how it could be dangerous to change the breaker out to a higher rating and not replace the wiring.




Because numb-nuts... the MANUFACTURER of the washer/dryer know what their equipment is rated for.

Because numb-nuts... the people that design electrical codes have a bit (huge bit) more knowledge that you do.



Hey I know... lets just run a single 500 amp circuit breaker and huge fucking cables to supply the outlets and equipment! Think of all the time and money we'df all save!

WOO-HOO!

:rofl2:


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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #14305769 - 04/17/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I do not use drugs or drink you douche.




Then there is clearly another problem.


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Do you really have nothing better to do then argue on the internet to make yourself feel superior?




I'm not arguing, merely paying the proper respect to one of the stupidest fucking questions I have seen on this site.


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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14305790 - 04/17/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The appliance should only draw as much current as it needs unless it becomes defective. The breaker is to protect the wiring in the home not the appliance and so long as the wiring is the appropriate gauge for the breaker I see know reason why this will not be safe. I single light bulb does not draw 15amps yet you can run multiple lights on a 15amp circuit and there is no problem. This logic could be flawed but I you have not stated why and this is why I am asking on the forums before doing something like this because I do value my home and the safety of my neighbors. I didn't come on here to argue guy I'm just looking for answers from someone who doesn't think their too elite to provide them to an "amateur" .

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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: QuantumMeltdown]
    #14305804 - 04/17/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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The appliance should only draw as much current as it needs unless it becomes defective.




There you go numb-nuts. You just hit upon the problem.

I knew (:rofl2:) you could do it.

Now, have pity on your neighbors, since you clearly don't give a shit about your safety.


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Re: Running Wire to the Breaker (Electrical) [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #14305836 - 04/17/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Im getting some help from a real DIY form where the folks don't insult one another and aren't to elite to answer questions. I apologize for the names I have called you I think I am done here unless you or anyone else cares to go more in depth.

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