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The chance of life arising on earth is...
#14305297 - 04/17/11 09:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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100%.
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MutantBonobo
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Chance of intelligent life arising on earth is... 0.001%.
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Re: The chance of life arising on earth is... [Re: MutantBonobo]
#14305399 - 04/17/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The chance of you banging Shakira is 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%.
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MutantBonobo
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In other words, it's worth a try.
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We don't have any particular evidence that life "arose" here vs (for example) being seeded.
Do we?
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The chance of you having already made a thread like this before: 100%
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Re: The chance of life arising on earth is... [Re: Poid]
#14305425 - 04/17/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Seeing as how I have covered nearly every possible topic, there are bound to be repeats. That - and senior dementia.
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OrgoneConclusion said: That - and senior dementia. 
That's what I was thinking.
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Re: The chance of life arising on earth is... [Re: MutantBonobo]
#14305429 - 04/17/11 10:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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MutantBonobo said: In other words, it's worth a try.
The poster boy for optimism.
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Re: The chance of life arising on earth is... [Re: Poid]
#14305431 - 04/17/11 10:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Poid said:
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OrgoneConclusion said: That - and senior dementia. 
That's what I was thinking. 
My ESP still works, sonny.
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Extra Special Penis? 
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Re: The chance of life arising on earth is... [Re: Poid]
#14305459 - 04/17/11 10:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You are so stuck in your third chakra.
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At least I don't take it up the third chakra! 
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Re: The chance of life arising on earth is... [Re: Poid]
#14305499 - 04/17/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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A slender, young man cruising the streets of San Francisco? Um, OK...
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I don't live in SF, I live in the Silicon Valley!
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No shit
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meatcakeman
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actually, new scientific evidence shows a high probability of life being seeded here, rather than conceived here. many microbial unicellular organisms that live in harsh/strange conditions often times have very few genetic links to the common prokaryotic cells we are familiar with. some even further conclude that all life on earth may not have had the same common ancestry leading back to one form of unicellular life; rather, a hodgepodge of differing cells from differing origins could have caused such a unique diversity/variance in our many distinct biomes.
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Re: The chance of life arising on earth is... [Re: meatcakeman]
#14307431 - 04/17/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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meatcakeman said: actually, new scientific evidence shows a high probability of life being seeded here, rather than conceived here. many microbial unicellular organisms that live in harsh/strange conditions often times have very few genetic links to the common prokaryotic cells we are familiar with. some even further conclude that all life on earth may not have had the same common ancestry leading back to one form of unicellular life; rather, a hodgepodge of differing cells from differing origins could have caused such a unique diversity/variance in our many distinct biomes.
What new scientific evidence exactly? Got a link?
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meatcakeman
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Re: The chance of life arising on earth is... [Re: Satyapriya]
#14307440 - 04/17/11 04:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i actually have many links, but you'd need a University of California NetID and Passcode to view any of them...
if you'd like, i could quote a few, even though that'd technically be illegal.
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Re: The chance of life arising on earth is... [Re: meatcakeman]
#14307469 - 04/17/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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if you'd like, i could quote a few, even though that'd technically be illegal
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Re: The chance of life arising on earth is... [Re: meatcakeman]
#14307472 - 04/17/11 04:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, please do!
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Re: The chance of life arising on earth is... [Re: Satyapriya]
#14307479 - 04/17/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Seems we have many spiritual outlaws among us.
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meatcakeman
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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if you'd like, i could quote a few, even though that'd technically be illegal
It's OK. You are already going to hell. 
ah, but aren't we all?
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Re: The chance of life arising on earth is... [Re: meatcakeman]
#14307566 - 04/17/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shrooomtastic said: Yes, please do!
ok.
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In this paper, we demonstrate that the hypersonic aerothermodynamics plays an important role in the field of "Astrobiology". When an extraterrestrial object enters the early earth's atmosphere, the ablation at the surface due to the aerodynamic heating causes various chemical reactions in the high temperature shock layer and the significant change in its shape and aerodynamic characteristics during the atmospheric flight. The viscous shock-layer analysis with the ablation injection shows that prebiotic molecules can be formed around an entry object made from ice in the early atmosphere composed of CO<sub>2</sub> and N<sub>2</sub>. In the hypersonic wind tunnel experiments using a spherical icy model at Mach number 7, it is found that not only the recession in the stagnation region but also the growth of icy columns in the shoulder region occur on the surface. The maximum diameter of the body increases and the forebody shape becomes flat. Hence the drag force significantly increases in the hypersonic flow. The temporal variation of the drag force and the mass loss rate is quantitatively described in terms of the change in the volume. The effects of the freestream conditions and the properties of the icy body are experimentally investigated.
couldn't copy anything from the actual article so i had to copy-pasta the abstract. but the article pretty much states that some of the components to life could have arisen from different extraterrestrial objects entering the earth's atmosphere. that means earth had some of the goodies and space had the other goodies. combine the goodies in the perfect environment and you'll get different kinds of microbial life scattered around earth. btw, this particular article is from University of Tokyo.
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Microorganisms isolated from subsurface environments and their importance for astrobiology and theoretical biology. Objective: the article is a review of the very controversial microbial life in subsurface environments like caves, rocks, mines, deep subsurface water and springs, in very special extreme environments. Material and Methods: the methods of isolation of the bacteria and archaea from subsurface environments are discussed too and analysed. Results: the results of years of investigations showed the possiblilities of adaptation to extreme environments and survival on very long periods of times, even geological eras, of some microorganisms. The inner biochemical, physical, biological and energetic mechanisms are still not elucidated, even some features were discovered. Conclusion: an extensive and intensive work of cooperation in this field of activity is required to discover the mechanisms of long term survival in extreme conditions of the subsurface microorganisms.
also, couldn't copy any of the actual article, just the abstract. but this article, originally in Romanian, tries to discern the possibility of astrobiology by researching the genetic characteristics of certain microbial life found in harsh subsurface environments. not as interesting as the previous article, but still pretty interesting.
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Abstract: In January 2004, the Stardust spacecraft flew through the dust of comet 81P/Wild 2 and captured specks of the cometary dust. On analysis of the comet 81P/Wild 2 samples it was found that they contain materials formed in the coldest and hottest regions of the early solar nebula, strongly suggesting 'mixing' on the grandest scale. Here, it is suggested that if microorganisms were present in the early solar nebula, as required by the hypothesis of cometary panspermia, then in the light of the Stardust findings, life was already present in the very material that formed planetary bodies.
some study that gives strong evidence of cometary panspermia.
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Abstract: onomically, there are viable mechanisms for distributing organic material throughout the Milky Way. Biologically, the destructive effects of ultraviolet light and cosmic rays means that the majority of organisms arrive broken and dead on a new world. The likelihood of conventional forms of panspermia must therefore be considered low. However, the information content of damaged biological molecules might serve to seed new life (necropanspermia).
a study postulating the possibility of life being seeded on earth by dead unicellular life from outer space.
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Abstract: Fred Hoyle's involvement in panspermia, recasting an ancient idea in a modern scientific framework marks an important turning point in the fortunes of this theory. Panspermia is discussed nowadays as a serious alternative to a purely terrestrial origin of life.
an older article from 2003
there are quite a few other articles, but i'm busy doing something else so i'm kinda over searching for the good ones.. if you'd like to read some more, i could post some later on today.
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Re: The chance of life arising on earth is... [Re: meatcakeman]
#14307774 - 04/17/11 05:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sweet, thanks man! Some interesting theories and research projects indeed.. never thought about dead cells entering the atmosphere and somehow spawning life by itself.. makes sense if you believe life originated from inanimate elements within the Earth over millions of years of evolution, which I do. I believe there is something quintessential within light or energy itself that causes matter to evolve into life and consciousness.
Reminds me of that Matisyahu song "On Nature."...
"Just sand, just rock, dry land, fast and silent. Only bein', only breathin'. Were just children of believers."
Thanks! good vibes
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