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my xbox360 lasted four years.
#14304674 - 04/17/11 04:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i got an E73 error message today on my xbox that i've had for over four years. i think i got a pretty good run as others i know have had many problems with theirs and much worse problems. i'm looking at xbox forums now too see if i can fix it myself or if i need to get someone who knows something about electronics to fix it.
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you need professional help. having it reballed is the only real fix, anything else will fail and possible damage it further. there is a guy greg the boxxdr in canada, google around for him, he is the guy to send it to.
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: iateshaggy]
#14305965 - 04/17/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i have read about all the quick fixes, but most people i know that have them done end up having it break within the next few months anyway. depending on the price to fix it, it may be better to just look into one of the newer ones.
i guess i have been lucky. the only problem i ever had was my dvd drive quit working after 1 year and 9 days. talk about PISSED. finally i just got pissed and sent it in saying it had RRoD and they sent me a perfectly good working console. im sorry, but i wasnt paying 130 bucks to have something fixed that broke 9 days after warranty
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: grimm_reefer]
#14306998 - 04/17/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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my best advise for you is to see if you can find a used or refurbed jasper model, they sell for ~100 at gamestop etc (console, all cables and controller) and you might find one used for less, just make sure it is a jasper, u can tell by the plug in in the back of the console. notice the split tab above the power leads.
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: iateshaggy]
#14307990 - 04/17/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Same mine lasted for about the same amount of time and crapped out although it did get the red ring of death thing but i fixed it by gluing pennies on these black things inside the xbox... then it eventually got the E74 error thing and i said fudge it and bought a new xbox slim...
Also instead of just throwing it out, put it on kijiji or ebay for 20 bucks and people are happy to take it off your hands
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: Pareidolia]
#14309484 - 04/17/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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shit, offer me any hardware off of it, i might toss you an offer.
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: iateshaggy]
#14310742 - 04/18/11 07:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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nice at least it lasted you a decent amount of time. i went through 2 or 3 shitty xbox 360s in that amount of time before i got my ps3
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I bought my xbox 360 around 3 or 4 years ago, it has never red ringed and is still working perfectly. I do have it sitting on a unit that gives it good ventilation though, so that might have something to do with it.
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: Jufin]
#14322193 - 04/20/11 09:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i wonder. it used to be on a desk getting all the ventilation it could. i put it in a semi enclosed cabinet about 3 months ago.
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no, your problem is the result of tin based solder binding the gpu to the mobo as opposed to lead based solder. while ventilation is important, it is not the cause of your problems.
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: iateshaggy]
#14323987 - 04/20/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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iateshaggy said: you need professional help. having it reballed is the only real fix, anything else will fail and possible damage it further. there is a guy greg the boxxdr in canada, google around for him, he is the guy to send it to.
you know you can reball it yourself, but if you haven't done it before at least one time i wouldn't recommend it. they had a whole thread on this in the science and technology forum.
apparently someone made a tech to this online, and was telling everyone to overheat the gpu. it was totally bunk apparently.
i know for sure there are more ways it can break than just the cpu. i guess that is like 85% of all the issues, but make sure you look up the error message in case it's something else.
i have no problem with paying to get mine fixed if/when it does eventually break. i just wish there was a store i could bring it to without having it expedited.
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: iateshaggy]
#14324003 - 04/20/11 04:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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iateshaggy said: no, your problem is the result of tin based solder binding the gpu to the mobo as opposed to lead based solder. while ventilation is important, it is not the cause of your problems.
where do you figure that unproper ventilation won't cause this? it's an overheating issue that does what you are describing, or it'd just happen by itself without you turning it on.
ventilation is very important. with a 360, you'll notice that the plug charger gets very hot, and not the console itself. while this is true, it is because of a big fan and very proper ventilation. if you leave your 360 on all day it'll start to get hot.
i've heard ps3 doesn't really have this problem. but ehh... i went with a 360. w/e
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: imachavel]
#14324615 - 04/20/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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imachavel said: i've heard ps3 doesn't really have this problem. but ehh... i went with a 360. w/e
thats because your a smart man.
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honestly man i think quality control on xbox production is a little fucked...
because ive seen xbox's red ring after less than a year, and some last 3+ years.
but one thing i realized is that they all break...sometime sooner than youd want it too. I would be surpirsed to find somebody who actually games and still has a 360 from around 05'....they just don't last idk..
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: shroomiin]
#14328527 - 04/21/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ps3 suffers the same hardware failure on its older units. once again, this is not a ventalation, quality control, board warping or any other theory people like to concoct, these hardware failures are a result of cracked solder joints under the gpu which are a result of using brittle tin based solder instead of lead based solder. there is no home reballing or reflowing, both require hundreds, even thousands of dollars of equipment and reballing takes lots of practice before a tech can actually do it right. 99% of non disk drive harware failures w/ the 360 are gpu solder failures.
hope i answered all misinformation and myths for yall. this isn't knowledge i got from reading stupid shit on the net, i actually ran a console repair shop for a while.
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: iateshaggy]
#14328792 - 04/21/11 05:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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iateshaggy said: no, your problem is the result of tin based solder binding the gpu to the mobo as opposed to lead based solder. while ventilation is important, it is not the cause of your problems.
E73: I/O Hardware Error - Couldn't calibrate HSIO Bus from edram: this error is likely caused by a problem with the Ethernet port or supporting control devices
Doesnt sound like a solder/xclamp error. Those display a red ring error for General Hardware Failure and xclamps can be fixed with $6 of hardware from Home Depot. Not hard at all.
I did this repair for both me and my brother over a year ago and theyre still running strong.
But iateshaggy sounds like he has more experience. Just adding my 2c.
Edited by strangetimez (04/21/11 05:05 PM)
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: strangetimez]
#14330005 - 04/21/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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if you "fixed" it by replacing the xclamp with screws, then your problem was cracked bga under the gpu and your "fix" is only setting you up for a much worse unrepairable hardware failure in the future when the fractured bga breaks and i really don't believe it has lasted for a year as these screw based "fixes" usually only last a day or two at best. like i said, this is what i have found with my own two eyes actually running a repair shop.
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: iateshaggy]
#14331249 - 04/22/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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My girlfriend bought me a refurbished 360 from gamestop for my birthday. Went to play it for the first time and it had red ring. Tried to return it but they refused without the receipt that we couldnt find. She was upset at herself so I figured i would try to fix it myself. Opened it up and remember there being space between the heatsink and the chip? Also the paste on chip was crusty. Was a while ago, memory is fuzzy, dont really recall exactly the picture of the situation but im sure you have some idea of what im describing. Went online, found some guide that seemed would work and replaced clamp with screws and its been working since. Its been over a year. Did the same thing to my brothers 360 that had the same red ring error although it didnt appear to have been in the same state as mine as far as space above the chip.
Like I said, thats all the experience ive had, might have been a stroke of luck, but whether you believe me or not, theyve both been working since. Mine since 3/2/2010 and my brothers for around 10 months. Wouldnt bother with describing the problem to someone whos more knowledgeable then me, at the risk of sounding stupid if it wasnt what really happened.
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: strangetimez]
#14332364 - 04/22/11 09:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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oh i wouldnt doubt it, ive fixed 2 of mine similarly...which is why i feel as though quality control in the manufacturing phase of these things is beaaaat.
edit- just read the post about tin based soder compared to lead, even if this is true, thats no excuse! why would you fuck up something so miniscule as the type of soder on a 300$ unit?
sorry microsoft...no excuse! thats not acceptable!
andyou would think they would realize this problem and fix it..
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: iateshaggy]
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iateshaggy said: ps3 suffers the same hardware failure on its older units. once again, this is not a ventalation, quality control, board warping or any other theory people like to concoct, these hardware failures are a result of cracked solder joints under the gpu which are a result of using brittle tin based solder instead of lead based solder. there is no home reballing or reflowing, both require hundreds, even thousands of dollars of equipment and reballing takes lots of practice before a tech can actually do it right. 99% of non disk drive harware failures w/ the 360 are gpu solder failures.
hope i answered all misinformation and myths for yall. this isn't knowledge i got from reading stupid shit on the net, i actually ran a console repair shop for a while.
thats cool man, i don't doubt what you say..
but you cant tell me that (in your console repair shop) you see as many broken ps3's as you do xbox's...
i mean im sure ps3's run into issues and break too...but of the people i know ive never witnessed a broken ps3, but many many fucked 360's..
maybe its just me
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: shroomiin]
#14332411 - 04/22/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i never even advertised that i did repair ps3's and still got as many calls about ylod as rrod. it seems that the bad ps3's do last longer, but fail just as much. on a side note, hp laptops also seem to frequently die from the exact same problem. the other big issue w/ ps3's is the cost to replace a blue ray laser compared to a dvd laser ($80 vs $10).
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: iateshaggy]
#14332744 - 04/22/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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true,
im just wondering why a company as big as microsoft would use shitty soder on their products...they know they will sell a ton ofem and they arn't lacking the money...
hell, they probably know the tin sucks and its just a scam to get people to keep buying them...fuckin' microsoft
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: shroomiin]
#14332767 - 04/22/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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that is the truly funny part of the situation. they were mandated to use tin based solder so if little kids ate their 360's/ps3's they won't get lead poisoning. read up on rohs compliance for more info.
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: iateshaggy]
#14335689 - 04/22/11 10:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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yep, another example of government regulation fucking up accomplishing the opposite of what they want: now the xbox's have created a whole lot more waste then if they had just made sturdy ones in the first place
The thing is that the consumers in north america got screwed due to the EU's ridiculous rules. They had debates for years about this stuff and the politicians all assured everyone that the rules gave technology plenty of time to adjust and that those applications that couldn't would be exempted.
Then, when the actual rules were written and implemented, there was no time for sufficient testing, and you couldn't get exemptions in almost all cases, so the manufacturers just found something that worked in their tests the best they could for cheap and shipped it out. Then after the solder fails, they come back.
Guess who pays for that? The politicians who lied? Nope...
Another example of government incompetence.
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: johnm214]
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My N64 has lasted 14 years... And counting.
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: The_Aviator]
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N64 is the shit
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: shroomiin]
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i miss the no loading time that the n64 had
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I got my PS3 when MGS4 was released. I only played it for several months, shoved the console into the closet and I went back to my PC, then I decided I felt like playing it again for another game (was this "hardcore" RPG style game, Demon Hunter or something?) then I got Black Ops, a month or so of playing that.... BANG! It crashed during a game, I turned it off and turned it back on and the disk drive stopped working Refused to pay to get it fixed so I took a sledgehammer to it... felt good man. Then, half a year later I get a Xbox 360 slim, play it for a few months and get bored.
Moral of the story? Consoles are shit.
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Re: my xbox360 lasted four years. [Re: daz01]
#14407718 - 05/05/11 09:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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daz01 said:
Moral of the story? Consoles are shit.
Thats not true man, console and pc gaming both have their benefits and downfalls. You can only play so many styles of games with a keyboard and a mouse, plus you cant play with your buddies in the same room on the same screen.
The skate series is a prime example of a kick-ass game that would suck dick if you tried to play it with a keyboard and a mouse.
plus, consoles dont get obsolete as fast as pc.
you could go on and on about why either one sucks..
moral of the story? get a sick gaming pc and a console. I love my ps3 because i can stream all of my content from my pc right to my tv through my gaming device. pretty convenient.
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