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bryguy27007
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Try 2 and a half then. Looks like you have enough to tinker, experiment, and perfect the dose.
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drr

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Just don't underestimate. Say they're 10mg. Then two is 20 - fine. 3 would be 30...Which would probably be too much for most people. Shulgin lists the range as 10 mg to 25 mg.
Maybe they're 7 mg. In which case you could get away with three but four would be pushing it.
Or maybe they're closer to 15 mg each. In which case you would know that you can handle ~30mg or whatever pretty well, but how about 45? That would be way over the top. When you consider that 35 mg might feel twice as intense as 30 mg because of the extremely steep dose response - how do you think another ten mg on top of that would do. Just be smart about it, that is all I ask!
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BleakBeat
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Re: Sour Acid? [Re: drr]
#14677958 - 06/27/11 12:09 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Both of you guys make extremely valid points, and I'm glad you don't got a stick up your asses while you give the advice. I definitely will take the 2 1/2 hits into consideration. I just have this thing about drugs where I'm expecting a lot out of it and only get HALF of what I thought (and was expecting) to happen so I get super let down and upset. But there needs to be some sort of precautionary measure I suppose.
4th of July is next week so, if I do indeed get a hold of some more tabs I will report back to this thread with my experience. If I can remember enough I might write a trip report... but hahahaha I don't know if that's gonna happen.
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BleakBeat
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Soooo I had a bunch of bullshit happen to me getting more of these tabs... But I got them...
Met a new guy he's my friends source, I ask him about 2C-E tabs and he tells me "oh those are free" and he has some other tabs... Which happen to be Ganesh tabs!
So I end up buying 3 tabs of the ganesh and I got 5 tabs of 2c-e FO FREE... Man 4th of july is gonna be intense.
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healing
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BleakBeat said: Soooo I had a bunch of bullshit happen to me getting more of these tabs... But I got them...
Met a new guy he's my friends source, I ask him about 2C-E tabs and he tells me "oh those are free" and he has some other tabs... Which happen to be Ganesh tabs!
So I end up buying 3 tabs of the ganesh and I got 5 tabs of 2c-e FO FREE... Man 4th of july is gonna be intense.
Start slow on those 2C-E tabs. You can't be sure that they're 2C-E, so it wouldn't be wise to take more that just one hit of them for your first time.
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BleakBeat
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Re: Sour Acid? [Re: healing]
#14708484 - 07/02/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've taken these tabs 5 times already. 2 is a wild ride. Gonna take 2.5 on Monday :] While I'm not 100% sure they are 2C-E there are a few people that agree with this statement. It lasts around the same time 2C-E (or an average acid trip) does... so it MIGHT be safe to assume that it's 2C-E... tastes incredibly bitter which I've heard 2C-E is disgusting... so yeah. Gonna save the Ganesh tabs for another time! excited 
The guy I got them from is a pretty nice guy.. I mean come on he gave me 5 WoW tabs FOR FREE. He actually offered to give me 10! But I couldn't take advantage of that :/ Says his friend got the Ganesh's tested and that they're right about 80ug.. hmmm!
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Joolz


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The whole thing about 2c-e is that while 2 maybe a wild ride, 2.5 could be enough to overdose and have a bad time. Its active at such small levels. Be safe.
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Edited by Joolz (07/02/11 08:55 PM)
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BleakBeat
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Re: Sour Acid? [Re: Joolz]
#14708547 - 07/02/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Joolz said: The whole thing about 2c-e is that while 2 maybe a wild ride, 2.5 could be enough to overdose and have a bad time. Its active at such small levels, you don't want to overdo it when .05 of a gram could mean the difference between fun and freaking out. Be safe.
Thanks for this I definitely understand. That's why I'm only taking an extra half because I almost decided to take 3. While I am a little worried I think I'll be able to handle this. I will try my best to document the night so I can write a trip report later.
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ReoSpeedwagon153


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BleakBeat said: While I'm not 100% sure they are 2C-E there are a few people that agree with this statement. It lasts around the same time 2C-E (or an average acid trip) does... so it MIGHT be safe to assume that it's 2C-E... tastes incredibly bitter which I've heard 2C-E is disgusting... so yeah.
So we have:
1. Lasts around the same time as 2c-e 2. Extremely bitter 3. Some people say they're 2c-e
Dude, you can't even be 25% sure those are 2c-e from that data...
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BleakBeat
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ReoSpeedwagon153 said:
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BleakBeat said: While I'm not 100% sure they are 2C-E there are a few people that agree with this statement. It lasts around the same time 2C-E (or an average acid trip) does... so it MIGHT be safe to assume that it's 2C-E... tastes incredibly bitter which I've heard 2C-E is disgusting... so yeah.
So we have:
1. Lasts around the same time as 2c-e 2. Extremely bitter 3. Some people say they're 2c-e
Dude, you can't even be 25% sure those are 2c-e from that data...
I know man, I know. But what can I do? They're badass, such profound trips man. They're coming in from California so who knows man. It's not like I'm gonna go crazy and take like 5 or 6 hits. That's too too much haha. A friend of ours has already taken 3 tabs and she doesn't even trip... like ever. She had a real good time. So ... 
I mean all in all, what else could it be? What could they be putting on this blotter that's gonna cause me to be tastes bitter, and only lasts about 8-12 hours? And I've gotten nausea from these tabs before as well which I heard is a common problem with the 2C's... so idk.
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ReoSpeedwagon153


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They can put any of like 300 compounds on blotter, a few of which might be hard to tell from acid..... I don't know, I've only ever tried 2ci + 2cb, both of which would be impossible to mistake for acid.
It's generally not encouraged to push the dose up on an unknown compound, as many in this thread have already told you. There could be a VERY steep dose response curve that you have no idea about. An extra 5mg and you are puking your guts out and crying for it to be over.... who knows?
You could narrow the number of possible substances down a fair degree with a marquis reagent - commonly known as an 'ecstacy test kit.' The marquis reagent can help tell you whether it is a phenethylamine psychedelic or a tryptamine. Any common psychedelic phenethylamine will turn the reagent a bright color like green or orange, whereas LSD will turn black. MDA and MDMA will also turn black, and there are many other exceptions as well.
These are easily available online for pretty cheap.
Just saying dude, be careful. Lots of people on this thread have warned you about pushing the dose with an unknown compound - hopefully you won't have to learn that lesson the hard way.
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BleakBeat
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ReoSpeedwagon153 said: They can put any of like 300 compounds on blotter, a few of which might be hard to tell from acid..... I don't know, I've only ever tried 2ci + 2cb, both of which would be impossible to mistake for acid.
It's generally not encouraged to push the dose up on an unknown compound, as many in this thread have already told you. There could be a VERY steep dose response curve that you have no idea about. An extra 5mg and you are puking your guts out and crying for it to be over.... who knows?
You could narrow the number of possible substances down a fair degree with a marquis reagent - commonly known as an 'ecstacy test kit.' The marquis reagent can help tell you whether it is a phenethylamine psychedelic or a tryptamine. Any common psychedelic phenethylamine will turn the reagent a bright color like green or orange, whereas LSD will turn black. MDA and MDMA will also turn black, and there are many other exceptions as well.
These are easily available online for pretty cheap.
Just saying dude, be careful. Lots of people on this thread have warned you about pushing the dose with an unknown compound - hopefully you won't have to learn that lesson the hard way.
I'm gonna look into getting a marquis test, I've wanted one since I was heavily into rolls. A lot of people are telling me to ease into it, which is what I've been doing. I'm only upping the dose by half a tab. I've heard a lot of things about these tabs from people I know, all positive except for one girl who was throwing up off two. but when I took two I felt badass! No nausea or nothing, just pure trip.
So I understand the cautions and I appreciate them from everyone, but I don't plan on losing my self control, I'm too afraid of what could happen.
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