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Seroquel that bad of thing?
    #14300614 - 04/16/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So I went to a doctor in town who is a big benzo pusher, went to him coming down off LSD lol. He is a psych and I told him everything he needed to hear for me to be perscribed valium. Big win, i got my valium. But he gave me free seroquel samples and said I need to be on seroquel XR because im manic. I don't know why he he

but anyway I don't need seroquel to be who I want to be but I took the samples and told him everything he needed to hear because I wanted my damn valium. Now one night I actually tried taking my seroquel because I have a really hard time sleeping and it actually works for me pretty well.

So i have been taking it every night for about a week now, I take about 75mgs to sleep but the doctor wants me on 150. I don't know why I wasn't more catious of this crazy medication that is way over perscribed.

Now I am worried because I remember that it is not just a sleeping pill. So I think I should stop taking it shoudn't I?

Anyway that is not my question, my question is does seroqel have really bad reactions with psychedelics? I have done some research but can't find any solid facts. I bet if you were tripping and took seroquel it would kill ur trip a bit but what about if you just take it to sleep? Can I still trip if I just dont take my seroqel till after my trip?

If seroqel really fucks up tripping for me i need to get off it ASAP because I am not giving up the psychedelic experience for some over perscribed medication like seroqel XR.

And please dont say anything like, "well if you are perscribed seroqel you don't need to be tripping". Because that is simply not true. This medication is OVER PERSCRIBED like crazy. Try and kill yourself one time and you are put on seroqel and labed Bi-polar. ha just kidding around but seriously it is way over perscribed. The doctor i am seeing is just pushed by company that makes these damn seroqel XR to hand out samples and get as many people on seroqel.

So does seroqel have really bad reactions with psychedelics? Mainy tryptamines as they are my favorite but. If this medication is a big no no to mix with LSD psilocybin or DMT then please link me to some sites and show me.

I am assuming no one really knows the answer to this question and the only answers on based on personal experience. In this case I am going to attempt taking a low dose of LSD after not taking my seroqel for 24 hours.

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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: clemens]
    #14300673 - 04/16/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i took seroquel for a few weeks and noticed i was having trouble swallowing. stayed that way for years and came back again when i tried suboxone. i stay the fuck away from prescription pills these days.

from what i understand, seroquel is comparable to thorazine so i would think using it while tripping wouldn't be much fun.


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: clemens]
    #14300718 - 04/16/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It depends on the dose, and the preparation.  Seroquel only has a 6 hour half life, so if you take 25mg IR before bed, you should be fine to trip the next night.  But if you take 150mg XR, there's no chance in hell you're tripping.

It's a potent 5-HT2A antagonist.  That means it directly prevents the exact action on the brain that causes tripping.

You should also be careful.  I was on 300mg IR for about a year, and I developed permanent damage from it.  I get violent shakes when I take any kind of stimulant, get in an argument, or even play a PVP video game.


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: BothHands]
    #14300774 - 04/16/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well I didn't even take my seroqel last night cause I thought about how it may effect tripping and I slept fine. Possibly I am just not going to take it ever again cause I don't want to risk it deminishing my trip.

still researching

you say "It's a potent 5-HT2A antagonist.  That means it directly prevents the exact action on the brain that causes tripping." but some people say they notice no deminshed effects from LSD or mushrooms.

I honestly can't imagine it could completely kill a trip unless you take 1600mgs and are nocked out for a few days. I mean IME nothing ever stops a trip but I don't know about seroqel. Does this mean seroqel is the cure? It can completely stop you from tripping? An antidote for the common psychedelic?


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: clemens]
    #14300810 - 04/16/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, pretty much.  It'll also put you to sleep though.  But yeah, it has a 38nM affinity for the receptor, and it's metabolite, which is also an antagonist, has a 2.9nM affinity.  Keep in mind the lower the ki, the stonger the binding.  LSD has an even stronger affinity than 2.9, so it might still work, but there's no chance in hell mushrooms will still be active.

I can't seem to find a half life for the metabolite though.

Seroquel should elminate a trip, but benzos turn a bad trip into a good trip.  So I very much prefer to use them if things go wrong.

The people who say they notice no diminished effects are probably taking 25mg something like 18 hours before the dose.


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: BothHands]
    #14301073 - 04/16/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yea well i only take 75mgs and Im thinking of taking 25mgs to sleep tonight and then not taking any. I know coming off seroqel can be tricky so I dont want to have any big problems.

I didn't take my seroqel last night tho and I already notice my suboxone working a lot better. I was taking 16mgs at once every day before and today I took 8mgs at once and I can feel it way more then when Im on seroqel. I do still feel it on seroqel but not as much.

kinda crazy tho, I kinda wish I had taken only 4mgs of suboxone tho cause I am feeling 8mgs a little to much.


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: clemens]
    #14301104 - 04/16/11 01:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

anti-psychotics are evil. Unless you like being a soul-less zombie that is.


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: clemens]
    #14301291 - 04/16/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm, that's strange.  I wonder if seroquel is an enzyme inducer.


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: BothHands]
    #14315840 - 04/19/11 06:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Reporting back

Took a low dose of LSD, half a blotter and i normally take two, and i still tripped. In fact i tripped harder then i thought i would ha!

I took my seroquel two nights before and i still tripped just like normal.

Planning to go trip again tonight for the simple fact i love everyone and everything


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: clemens]
    #14316234 - 04/19/11 09:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, seroquel only has a 6 hour half life.  SSRI's have a 24+ hour half life, and they downregulate the receptors.  If anything, seroquel will actually upregulate the receptors.  As long as you come for for a day or two, you should trip fine.


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: Dawks]
    #14316325 - 04/19/11 09:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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anti-psychotics are evil. Unless you like being a soul-less zombie that is.




yeah man... I was prescribed a pretty hefty daily dose of seroquil years ago, I hated it... the side effects are fucked

I did use it for sleep occasionally for awhile though, in low doses... nothing higher than 50 mgs

having to take that shit during the day, then still having to function like a normal human being was impossible... work?... yeah right, not on 300 mgs spread throughout the day.

it made me fat, lazy and stupid... also had no desire to hang out with friends or anything.

I remember I still tripped though, even off mushrooms :shrug:

although I might not have been taking it regularly by that point... can't remember, it was a long time ago.

but that is one drug I will never put into my body ever again.... nasty shit

I used to watch dudes snort it in jail :lol: :nonono:


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: LuSiD9]
    #14317672 - 04/19/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That shit smashes ya!


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: microdotty]
    #14324595 - 04/20/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Certainly seroquel didnt damper my bicycle day. Took 5 hits of wow and damn i tripped faced. Some of the amazing visuals on LSD i have ever had.

And i took a half a hit the day before


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: clemens]
    #27534618 - 11/08/21 08:14 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

My psychiatrist who believes a trip will give me relief. He is very forward thinking. And has done his research psychedelics. He said that I should not be on Seroquel for at least two weeks before. They say it could cause death is you are on any anti anxiety or anti psychotics. I hope that is helpful.


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: DebraG]
    #27536245 - 11/09/21 08:43 AM (2 years, 2 months ago)

DebraG this thread is 10.5 years and OP has not been seen in over 6 years.
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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: CHUCK.HNTR] * 2
    #27536559 - 11/09/21 01:16 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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DebraG this thread is 10.5 years and OP has not been seen in over 6 years.
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She just posted about a psychiatrist that encouraged her to use psychedelics! That's worthy of a necro-post!


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Re: Seroquel that bad of thing? [Re: Kalendula]
    #27536668 - 11/09/21 03:31 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

:pink:  psychiatrists have become so progressive


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