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A question for long time hunters
    #14300537 - 04/16/11 11:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Specifically I'm wondering about Ovoideocystidiata, but I'm sure most woodlovers would be close enough to answer this.

How long does a patch last? I realize it will be different for different habitats etc. (alot of variables) but how many seasons does a patch keep flushing?

More specifically still, I mean a patch in a natural setting (forest), So the patch is getting new nutrients every year from fallen branches/trees/dead knotweed and from flooding. I'm assuming it won't last forever. It seems the grand total of weight from this place keeps getting smaller.

And more out of curiousity, how long does a woodchip bed of any woodlover (say cyans) last if one doesn't add new chips every year?


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Re: A question for long time hunters [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #14300547 - 04/16/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i would add wood chips to your wild spots if your worried about it. the more fresh substrate the longer it will live .


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Re: A question for long time hunters [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #14300558 - 04/16/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've hunted the same native forest / bushland areas in Australia for the last six years and they have constantly produced the same if not more number of fruits year after year. Yet to notice any slow down in number of specimens, but I try to expand the areas I search every year as much as possible just in case. I have seen quite a few woodchip patches disappear over the year, either because of overpicking or lack of nutrients / fresh wood debris.


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Re: A question for long time hunters [Re: msanchez420]
    #14300593 - 04/16/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah - I would say with the proper nutrients/harvesting techniques a patch should be able to thrive more or less forever. Certainly you must take care of the mycelium, and not rip the mushrooms out of the ground. I am fairly certain that picking from a patch will even make it a stronger patch with proper picking methods. But as Symon mentioned, you have got to have enough substrate. P. cyanescens for instance eat up their substrate rather quickly. The main patch I was picking from last fall was a prolific producer, however it ate up about 50% of the chips that were available. I unfortunately can't bring in more woodchips to this location as it is some random person's front yard...  I don't imagine it will last more than a year or two.. Of course, I am spreading spores around basically everywhere I go, and have personally started 3 other beds and have plans for many more. So it will "live on" even if in other spots...

Anyway, just my $.02 :cheers:


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Re: A question for long time hunters [Re: Oreganic]
    #14300664 - 04/16/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

One of my ovoid patches has been around since the 80s at least,that is what im told from a few local older hunters,and i believe them :smile: And to think i thought i was special!:lol:


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Re: A question for long time hunters [Re: avidpicker]
    #14301393 - 04/16/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ive been picking from the same patch the last 3 seasons in malibu... Other patches of mine disappeared after 6 months.. they were the smaller ones though.

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Re: A question for long time hunters [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #14302311 - 04/16/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:popcorn: Was going to chip in with my thoughts but seems they have already been covered. Those being fresh substrate 'food' for the patch and also proper picking techniques.


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Re: A question for long time hunters [Re: UK Explorer]
    #14304725 - 04/17/11 05:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I usually use scissors to cut them low to the ground and try to only pick more mature specimens that seem to have dropped some spores. Also I try to avoid stepping/kneeling in areas where I suspect mycelium might be housed. Is this basically it? Are there more measures I can take as far as picking technique is concerned?


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Re: A question for long time hunters [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #14306766 - 04/17/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hope you don't mind Roge

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RogerRabbit said:
If you want a patch to produce long-term, it's important to not only add fresh substrate every year, but to never pick more than half the mushrooms.  They need the spores from those mushrooms to add fresh genetics to the patch or it will die out.  Overpicking, not running out of food is the main reason PNW cyanescens patches shit the bed after a year or two, usually the next year after you show some 'tard your patch.
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