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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14298730 - 04/15/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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If everyone did you know how many people would get shot in the cross fire.





far fewer than you might imagine, last person I'd want to fuck with is the one that has a gun




If everyone carried it wouldnt matter, I could see at least a extra person getting shot in the cross fire everytime someone snapped and started shooting people


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: propensity]
    #14298731 - 04/15/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I would of shown him some more respect than that. At least he realizes he's been through some fucked up shit and might be a little fucked up because of it. Last thing he needs is some bratty sarcastic response like you gave him. I'm surprised he didn't punch you in the face acting that disrespectful towards him. You're in college now it's time to grow up.





He realizes his morality/beliefs stem from 20 years of murder, and accepts and embraces that?

Deserves no respect.






respect is earned, you cant command it, it cant be demanded and no one
can take it for their own. I honor anyone's right to say what they wish
as long as the forum is appropriate.




Right. I can't tell if you're disagreeing with me or not :|





the answer to that is YES


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14298736 - 04/15/11 11:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Haha I like you Pris


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14298737 - 04/15/11 11:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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If everyone did you know how many people would get shot in the cross fire.





far fewer than you might imagine, last person I'd want to fuck with is the one that has a gun




If everyone carried it wouldnt matter, I could see at least a extra person getting shot in the cross fire everytime someone snapped and started shooting people



Would you open fire in a room full of shooters?  I wouldn't, I'd open fire in the "no guns allowed" areas if I wanted to go on a rampage.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Shroomism]
    #14298758 - 04/15/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The way that's worded is sarcastic and I'm sure the tone in which it was delivered was bratty as hell. If it wasn't then there's no need for it to be said in the first place because the dude already admitted that he's been through some fucked up shit and is fucked up because of it. Show some respect and don't act like a child is all I'm sayin.




"because I spent the last 20 years killing people for money"

"thats a ballsy thing to say to someone who is packing a pistol under their shirt"

That sounds like a psychopath bragging and demanding respect or else, not some humble dude admitting he's been through some tough times.
How about he show some respect and not threaten someone for an innocent comment




True, I'm not doubting that the dude is crazy as all hell but that doesn't mean that it's right to provoke him in front of a class of people. Of all places the classroom should be somewhere he doesn't have to deal with stupid little kids riling shit up for no reason.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14298769 - 04/15/11 11:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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If everyone did you know how many people would get shot in the cross fire.





far fewer than you might imagine, last person I'd want to fuck with is the one that has a gun




If everyone carried it wouldnt matter, I could see at least a extra person getting shot in the cross fire everytime someone snapped and started shooting people





you're assuming people would snap more so than they have, it's simple, in the US anyone that's legally eligible can own a gun, basically above 21years of age and no felonies or crazies. the us has a 90% firearms ownership rate and out of 300 million people 32k are killed by firearm each year, this includes police involved shootings, self defense and criminals... can you honestly see the other 10% of eligible people making that impact that much heavier?

maybe it would interest you to know that police shoot innocents twice as often as armed civilians do and even then the numbers are pretty low


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: propensity]
    #14298777 - 04/15/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Haha I like you Pris






there's probably a pill for that... consult your doctard


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #14298804 - 04/15/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The way that's worded is sarcastic and I'm sure the tone in which it was delivered was bratty as hell. If it wasn't then there's no need for it to be said in the first place because the dude already admitted that he's been through some fucked up shit and is fucked up because of it. Show some respect and don't act like a child is all I'm sayin.




"because I spent the last 20 years killing people for money"

"thats a ballsy thing to say to someone who is packing a pistol under their shirt"

That sounds like a psychopath bragging and demanding respect or else, not some humble dude admitting he's been through some tough times.
How about he show some respect and not threaten someone for an innocent comment



What's the context though? None of us except morrow was there. Maybe it was a bad joke, but since morrow seemingly has a problem with conservatives he could have taken it that he gets a kick out of killing the enemy. I don't know just from reading that post.


considering a good deal of America's sociopaths and killers come from or are enabled by the service its not unheard of.

although there are some people that have good qualities and are there to better themselves positively, still doesnt change the fact they signed their life over to kill people for lies and money and not honor. The real issue here is morals, and i see none when i look at the military. I do see a worldwide empire that can make a shitstorm of death though.


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Which secretly stands for Demonizing Everyone by Allegations.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14298831 - 04/15/11 11:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The only person I can think of is Tim McVeigh and Lee Harvey Oswald, enlighten me on who else.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: PreparationH]
    #14298846 - 04/15/11 11:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The guy who assassinated Dimebag darrell.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14298863 - 04/16/11 12:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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considering a good deal of America's sociopaths and killers come from or are enabled by the service its not unheard of.

although there are some people that have good qualities and are there to better themselves positively, still doesnt change the fact they signed their life over to kill people for lies and money and not honor. The real issue here is morals, and i see none when i look at the military. I do see a worldwide empire that can make a shitstorm of death though.




and you served for how long?

maybe you just arent fully aware of what the job entails, you only view what you're told it's about


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Shroomism]
    #14298862 - 04/16/11 12:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The guy who assassinated Dimebag darrell.



You blame the military for it?  I love Pantera, I don't blame the armed forces.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14298865 - 04/16/11 12:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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although there are some people that have good qualities and are there to better themselves positively, still doesnt change the fact they signed their life over to kill people for lies and money and not honor. The real issue here is morals, and i see none when i look at the military. I do see a worldwide empire that can make a shitstorm of death though.




It's not that simple. Not everyone sees as much of the conflict as you might, man. To many people, being a soldier is serving one's country, which brings up fighting the nazis or imperial japan.

You have to ask where the fault lies: is it the kid who joins to get money for college and job skills, and to take part in a proud tradition? Or is it the fucking awful leaders who waste those people's lives who are at fault?

You can't say their motives are evil.

At worst their motives are stupid.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Shroomism]
    #14298872 - 04/16/11 12:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The guy who assassinated Dimebag darrell.





yeah... maybe you should read a little deeper

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Gale


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #14298874 - 04/16/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'll say this though, I don't think you should be able to enlist in the military at 18.  Either the age of drinking drops to 18 or the age of enlistment rises to 21 years old.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: PreparationH]
    #14298953 - 04/16/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

why should those two things coincide?


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Coaster]
    #14298960 - 04/16/11 12:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Seems kinda arbitrary that you're old enough to murder people when you're 18 but you somehow haven't developed enough to use alcohol

Edit: Not that I expect any kind of logic or sanity from the govt anymore


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Edited by propensity (04/16/11 12:20 AM)


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: propensity]
    #14298963 - 04/16/11 12:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

its unhealthy to drink < 21

and if u increase recruitment age u lose soldiers.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14298969 - 04/16/11 12:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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considering a good deal of America's sociopaths and killers come from or are enabled by the service its not unheard of.

although there are some people that have good qualities and are there to better themselves positively, still doesnt change the fact they signed their life over to kill people for lies and money and not honor. The real issue here is morals, and i see none when i look at the military. I do see a worldwide empire that can make a shitstorm of death though.




and you served for how long?

maybe you just arent fully aware of what the job entails, you only view what you're told it's about


what in your right mind gave u that idea that i was so hypocritical.Ill post this article sense it sums it up best.


The general theory of social learning, as formulated by Burgess and Akers
(1966), was applied to show how the military provided a social group through
which potential or future serial killers learn the skills and neutralization techniques
of killing. Grossman’s (1996) research in the military on the psychology of
killing supports the idea that murder, like other forms of crime and deviant behavior,
can be learned. Although researchers have used social learning theory to support
crime and deviant behavior, Hale (1993) was the first scholar who attempted
to apply learning theory to serial murder.


Like other variables previously considered in the study of serial murder, military
experience is not present in all cases. Therefore, the military may be just one
social group that provides the serial killer with the associations and reinforcements
necessary to learn how to kill. However, future serial killers may be
attracted to military service for this reason. As the study of serial murder remains a
new area of research, future studies might examine this relationship further.


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Nixon was a asshole. Just look at his biggest creation. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the DEA.

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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Coaster]
    #14298976 - 04/16/11 12:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No,I would squeeze off a couple blanks then fall over dramatically and im
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its unhealthy to drink < 21

and if u increase recruitment age u lose soldiers.




Its unhealthy to drink, period.


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