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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact] * 2
    #14314888 - 04/18/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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DarkMatterOfFact said:
romanticizing over warfare eh?:lol: you know im a pacifist right? actually im done because this topic makes me sick and its a tiresome. i hate guns and the people who respect or love them. sorry you and the rest of the world love violence so much. really i am.




you're the pacifist that advocated bringing back the weapons of brutality and admitted you'd attack someone... Hmmmm

DarkMatterOfFact said:
Yeah i could care less anymore(ill be indifferent too). ill use my fists if i have a problem or get shot. im not afraid to die for what i think is right. im afraid of people  that think they are justified by this acceptable lifestyle.




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not everyone is so lucky. whatever, your not the norm. i wasnt saying you even were.





to the contrary, I am the norm, I worked for what I've got in order to
live my life on my terms.

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its quite a complicated quagmire to survive and even be middle class these days. which i hope one day this regime we call the usa is reformed across the board. if it take sacrifice...well so be it.





lol... please, how is it so complicated, go to work, earn a wage, file
your taxes, pay your bills, after everything is paid what's left is yours
to piss away in any way you wish


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14315481 - 04/19/11 02:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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DarkMatterOfFact said:
romanticizing over warfare eh?:lol: you know im a pacifist right? actually im done because this topic makes me sick and its a tiresome. i hate guns and the people who respect or love them. sorry you and the rest of the world love violence so much. really i am.




you're the pacifist that advocated bringing back the weapons of brutality and admitted you'd attack someone... Hmmmm

DarkMatterOfFact said:
Yeah i could care less anymore(ill be indifferent too). ill use my fists if i have a problem or get shot. im not afraid to die for what i think is right. im afraid of people  that think they are justified by this acceptable lifestyle.




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not everyone is so lucky. whatever, your not the norm. i wasnt saying you even were.





[bto the contrary, I am the norm, I worked for what I've got in order to
live my life on my terms.

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its quite a complicated quagmire to survive and even be middle class these days. which i hope one day this regime we call the usa is reformed across the board. if it take sacrifice...well so be it.





lol... please, how is it so complicated, go to work, earn a wage, file
your taxes, pay your bills, after everything is paid what's left is yours
to piss away in any way you wish


:crankey: i said i was done on this issue, o well since you must criticize me further i will defend.

1st thing, theres a difference between violently killing someone with your precious gun and defending yourself without deadly weapons.I dont look for fights and ive been in maybe 5 fights in 29 years of my life.

And i wasnt advocating using any weapon. Its pretty obvious what i was saying that firearms are a big catalyst to deadlier warfare since they were created and are a dehumanizing aspect created by us.

All you halfto do to see that is see the persecution of america's natives and slavery in africa or south america etc etc. The larger scale wars since introduced. The higher death tolls.


and 2nd, you are not the norm, most people dont farm their food or cant because they live in the city. Or live in cheap slums where buses run, subway trains because they cant afford 5 vehicles.

also im not saying that anything is wrong with owning more then is neccesary if you earned it. What is wrong is that attitude of bigotry your pulling.

alot are actually suffering because they are stuck with broken dreams or jobs that have got reduced hours and are forced to work 2 jobs to survive.

thats not complicated when the future of the people you care about is so uncertain?

so you have been fortunate, you said so with your commendation war efforts. All im saying is there are others who are not and to say oh its your choice is idiotic. Man is a nature of his environment and sometimes that nature must be changed before he or she will.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14315536 - 04/19/11 03:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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1st thing, theres a difference between violently killing someone with your precious gun and defending yourself without deadly weapons.I dont look for fights and ive been in maybe 5 fights in 29 years of my life.




so you believe in self defense only if it's a fist fight but if some woman
is being attacked by an armed intruder that has the intent to rape and
kill her she should just let it happen? or are you saying that some poor
woman should defend herself against this armed assailant by fist fighting




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and 2nd, you are not the norm, most people dont farm their food or cant because they live in the city. Or live in cheap slums where buses run, subway trains because they cant afford 5 vehicles.




I guess you've never heard of urban farming or the middle class, the
majority of america doesnt live in the slums and those busses are pretty
cheap, you can travel across town on a couple bucks where as in my truck
it would cost about $8 just look at how cheap city living is on the
transportation end

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also im not saying that anything is wrong with owning more then is neccesary if you earned it. What is wrong is that attitude of bigotry your pulling.




I'm not advocating the hate of people that own guns based on the simple
fact they're different in some way, that would be bigotry


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: morrowasted]
    #14315666 - 04/19/11 04:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
have the class again tomorrow morning. should be fun :strokebeard:





cool, let us know how it goes and tell us what led up to the statement by the
conservative ex-military douchebag, because this isnt a statement someone
just blurts out in the middle of class for no reason especially given the way
you've phrased it... it was a response to something, provocation maybe?

one guy during class today actually said "I guess I just am how I am because I spent the last 20 years killing people for money"


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14315686 - 04/19/11 04:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Guns are fucking awesome you're crazy, period.  Have you ever shot a gun? Explosion in your hand that lets you throw lead fast as shit at stuff.  How is that a fail?  It's a safe hobby that is FUN.  I'm getting a conceal carry permit, I hope I never have to actually use it against someone, I don't want to be in that life or death situation but gtfo of here I'll kill someone to walk another day, there are crazy sons of bitches out there and I am not one of them.

Saying that a responsible law abiding citizen shouldn't have a gun is preposterous, I'm not the type to rob a bank/hold up someone in an alley way because I'm not a pussy.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Coaster]
    #14317856 - 04/19/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Freedom is fascistic?  How many people would have been killed at Va Tech or Columbine if one of those "assholes" that OP despises were there with his own gun?



There's a higher probability that the kind of person the OP despises will kill an unarmed person on campus.



No there isn't and that is slanderous.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: morrowasted]
    #14318046 - 04/19/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i didnt say that though. what i said was "yeah, that might have something to do with it". he comes back with, "thats a ballsy thing to say to someone who is packing a pistol under their shirt."

i turned around, looked him square in the face, put my arms up in surrended, and said "go ahead and shoot me."

anyway. he shut up and did not say anything for the rest of class. end of story





hahahah thats funny as hell. prolly the best way to handle it imo. cheers to that


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14318179 - 04/19/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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yet the OP has expressed his hatred based on their political views as well as
their former careers and then some comment that seems way out of place in
response to his 'innocent' comment... I have great difficulty believing it
wasnt embellished




be that as it may, that still doesn't make the other guy right. and as i mentioned before, i would tend to think that threatening violence involving guns on a school campus would tend to garner some serious legal ramifications.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: millzy]
    #14320013 - 04/19/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't hate the guys. I also don't necessarily have a problem with carrying a weapon. I do think they are relatively ignorant and moronic, based on my experiences listening to them for the last several months, and I do think it was inappropriate for him to allude to an item he supposedly carries for personal protection as if my spoken remark were a personal attack on him that required self-defense.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: morrowasted]
    #14320074 - 04/19/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
I don't hate the guys. I also don't necessarily have a problem with carrying a weapon. I do think they are relatively ignorant and moronic, based on my experiences listening to them for the last several months, and I do think it was inappropriate for him to allude to an item he supposedly carries for personal protection as if my spoken remark were a personal attack on him that required self-defense.




THIS. Thats like exactly my views on the subject.


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and thereby finds himself first;
holds himself outside,
and thereby remains at the center;
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and is thereby fulfilled


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: millzy]
    #14322119 - 04/20/11 09:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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millzy said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
yet the OP has expressed his hatred based on their political views as well as
their former careers and then some comment that seems way out of place in
response to his 'innocent' comment... I have great difficulty believing it
wasnt embellished




be that as it may, that still doesn't make the other guy right. and as i mentioned before, i would tend to think that threatening violence involving guns on a school campus would tend to garner some serious legal ramifications.






except we're being led to believe something right from the start,
morrowwasted stated his disdain for these conservative military types and
then goes on the report something that was obviously a response to
something else, possibly several statements, maybe form morrow, maybe from
another classmate but certainly something well out of place... this is
what I like to refer to as 'fabrication of events'

what would lead a 20yr veteran of the armed services to just blurt out in
class this statement "I guess I just am how I am because I spent the
last 20 years killing people for money"
, what's morrow not telling us,
what has morrow embellished in his story, is it possible that since he's
withheld the reason for the 'first' response by this former soldier that
the latter response was fabricated in order to make his story interesting

I'm inclined to believe so because some crucial parts are left out, could
the secondary response from the veteran be in response to something morrow
said along the lines of "you baby killers should all be murdered in a slow
and painful manner", based on his initial comments about his obvious
hatred for the military and conservatives it certainly doesnt seem
unreasonable especially given his 'thoughts' "yeah no shit you fucking
scumbag". what exactly is being omitted?


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: morrowasted]
    #14322135 - 04/20/11 09:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
I don't hate the guys. I also don't necessarily have a problem with carrying a weapon. I do think they are relatively ignorant and moronic, based on my experiences listening to them for the last several months, and I do think it was inappropriate for him to allude to an item he supposedly carries for personal protection as if my spoken remark were a personal attack on him that required self-defense.





once more... what are you leaving out in this story, why would this 'ignorant

and moronic scumbag' just blurt out "I guess I just am how I am because I
spent the last 20 years killing people for money"? what was your actual
comment that garnered the comment you claim he's made about the gun. both are
things very out of character for a 20yr veteran of the armed services and for
someone that is carrying a concealed weapon, the last thing I know of a CCW
holder to do is to advertise the fact to a large group of people and I've
never known a soldier that didnt like the element of surprise, something
your claim certainly eliminates


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