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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14313484 - 04/18/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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millzy said:
anyone implying that they were armed in a threatening tone towards another student would get the cops on them quick and expelled. not cool, at all. refuting someone's position should never resort to violence, especially in a classroom setting.





yet the OP has expressed his hatred based on their political views as well as
their former careers and then some comment that seems way out of place in
response to his 'innocent' comment... I have great difficulty believing it
wasnt embellished


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can you? you seem to think gun toting americans are a good contribution to society?





in what way are then not a positive contribution to society?


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14313486 - 04/18/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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What a prick. :facepalm:


He'd feel very different about killing if he took psychedelics. :awehigh:





not necessarily.  psychedelics bring some people even further into their own heads and seem to reinforce and/or amplify their already fucked up beliefs.  don't get me wrong, i think psychedelics are an amazing tool for expanding horizons and spreading peaceful awareness.. but some people just want death and killing and destruction exponentially more when they're tripping.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14313500 - 04/18/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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you refuse to get my point...there is no hope in changing obtuse people. so i refuse to try anymore. i just hope to start fresh.:peace:





that's flaming, not to mention it goes along with what I've always saif about
the neo-hippies in the US, fascists in tie dyes, the open mind that says
agree with me or you're just too stupid to understand

great argument you have there


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14313501 - 04/18/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Gun toting law abiding citizens are a good contribution to society.  Gun toting criminals are not.  Most people are not criminals, ergo gun ownership is a net benefit to society.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14313559 - 04/18/11 07:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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as i read through this thread, one cliche came to mind, over and over. "only in america".

the highest official gun murder rates of any 1st world nation by far. I think i have an answer though. even though it contradicts what i believe.

anybody that owns and loves their gun(s) so much can make a devotion to their fellow american and sacrifice their self with it.

not only will you be making the world safer, you will be ending the painful fear filled lives you endure. maybe a little too ambitious, but hey, the wild west is over and if some people cant realize that and be pacified there is no help for them.  except to not exist anymore. :sad:




What exactly do you have against owning a gun for self defense, home safety, or hunting? 
Guns are just tools like any other weapon and can be put to constructive or destructive uses.
Do you think anyone who owns a knife for butchering or carving should kill themselves too?


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14313592 - 04/18/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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DarkMatterOfFact said:
you refuse to get my point...there is no hope in changing obtuse people. so i refuse to try anymore. i just hope to start fresh.:peace:





that's flaming, not to mention it goes along with what I've always saif about
the neo-hippies in the US, fascists in tie dyes, the open mind that says
agree with me or you're just too stupid to understand

great argument you have there


did we learn anything from the past? columbine, Vt shooting. Espescially when the NRA (the real fascists) is like a poster child for this sick gun toting society and they are indifferent to their violent little tools influence.

Yeah i could care less anymore(ill be indifferent too). ill use my fists if i have a problem or get shot. im not afraid to die for what i think is right. im afraid of people  that think they are justified by this acceptable lifestyle.

basically the future of this nation. just remember the world has a way of fixing itself. harshly and without justice and that was what i meant.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14313683 - 04/18/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Freedom is fascistic?  How many people would have been killed at Va Tech or Columbine if one of those "assholes" that OP despises were there with his own gun?


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14313883 - 04/18/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

freedom is a illusion, just like rights. so imo yeah it is, because it is a lie to subvert the population to this countries fallacies.

and as how many would die if a douchebag like op is referring to was involved?

ide guess logically more, with crossfire and all. IMO violence begets violence endlessly.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14313932 - 04/18/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Why are you ignoring my questions Darkmatteroffact?
:etbig:

Do you not recognize that taking guns away from people wont stop them from hurting others if they want to?
Should people be restricted from owning anything that could be dangerous even though they have contructive use?


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14313944 - 04/18/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Freedom is fascistic?  How many people would have been killed at Va Tech or Columbine if one of those "assholes" that OP despises were there with his own gun?



There's a higher probability that the kind of person the OP despises will kill an unarmed person on campus.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: donteatasians]
    #14313963 - 04/18/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Coaster said:
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zappaisgod said:
Freedom is fascistic?  How many people would have been killed at Va Tech or Columbine if one of those "assholes" that OP despises were there with his own gun?



There's a higher probability that the kind of person the OP despises will kill an unarmed person on campus.



It seems that it's anyone who owns a gun. :shrug:

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DarkMatterOfFact said:
anybody that owns and loves their gun(s) so much can make a devotion to their fellow american and sacrifice their self with it.

not only will you be making the world safer, you will be ending the painful fear filled lives you endure. maybe a little too ambitious, but hey, the wild west is over and if some people cant realize that and be pacified there is no help for them.  except to not exist anymore.






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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact] * 1
    #14314005 - 04/18/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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DarkMatterOfFact said:
you refuse to get my point...there is no hope in changing obtuse people. so i refuse to try anymore. i just hope to start fresh.:peace:





that's flaming, not to mention it goes along with what I've always saif about
the neo-hippies in the US, fascists in tie dyes, the open mind that says
agree with me or you're just too stupid to understand

great argument you have there


did we learn anything from the past? columbine, Vt shooting. Espescially when the NRA (the real fascists) is like a poster child for this sick gun toting society and they are indifferent to their violent little tools influence.




yes, we've learned that a disarmed populace are subjects, not free men,
that they will more often be victims of crime and persecution, that they
quickly become the victims of extermination as can be evidenced by the
holocaust, the armenian genocide, the genocide of the muslims in central
europe in the 90s

yes, we've certainly learned a great deal from the past

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ill use my fists if i have a problem or get shot. im not afraid to die for what i think is right. im afraid of people  that think they are justified by this acceptable lifestyle.




that's the difference between us, I'll use my head if I have a problem, if
I feel my life is in danger then I'll use a weapon but only as a last
resort, it's not my intention to take a life but it is my intention to
live. you choose to use violence before attempting to elude, I choose to
stay away from the situation altogether but if I cannot, I prefer to
escape, and only if cornered shall I resort to violence because at that
point, my options for survival have greatly slimmed and not by my own choosing


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact] * 2
    #14314046 - 04/18/11 09:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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DarkMatterOfFact said:
freedom is a illusion, just like rights.





seems you have the slave mentality and as such have made yourself a slave



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and as how many would die if a douchebag like op is referring to was involved?

ide guess logically more, with crossfire and all. IMO violence begets violence endlessly.




you're mistaken, it takes several minutes for the cops to arrive, in that
time an armed criminal can potentially kill hundreds, one single armed
civilian that's already on the scene can kill the shooter and prevent
those hundreds of deaths

while you probably prefer to believe you're right, it's shown by the FBIs
shooting statistics that cops, trained law enforcement personnel shoot
innocent people twice as often as armed civilians, and another statistic
they show is that while there's 30,000 deaths caused by firearms each year
in this country, armed civilians used firearms in self defense or the
defense of the lives of others more than 1 million times each year

sorry brother but give me 1 armed civilian over a dozen armed cops anyday


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Coaster]
    #14314049 - 04/18/11 09:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Freedom is fascistic?  How many people would have been killed at Va Tech or Columbine if one of those "assholes" that OP despises were there with his own gun?



There's a higher probability that the kind of person the OP despises will kill an unarmed person on campus.





care to show the proof or is this just talk


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: donteatasians]
    #14314057 - 04/18/11 09:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

wasnt ignoring you. just its obvious the death rate would be less, its a cowards tool and it requires a lot less of someone to kill.

you dont even need to look someone in the eye to use it. its a honor less weapon. just another failed invention in my eyes.


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Which secretly stands for Demonizing Everyone by Allegations.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14314107 - 04/18/11 09:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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wasnt ignoring you. just its obvious the death rate would be less, its a cowards tool and it requires a lot less of someone to kill.






untrue, statistics show that violent crime and murder increase when guns
are banned, chicago is a prime example, make the comparison to kennesaw Ga
where gun ownership is mandatory and you'll see that their crime rate
hasnt changed in 25 years despite the fact that their population has grown
5x the size it was at the time that law was institutes, it's well below
the national average and neighboring cities like alpharetta are riddled
with crime and gang activity

would you attack someone that you knew may be armed?

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you dont even need to look someone in the eye to use it. its a honor less weapon. just another failed invention in my eyes.




sure.. a sword is so noble but if I have a gun I'll live in a battle
against the sword weilding attacker because I dont have to rely on who has
more skills, no need to worry about spending weeks in the hospital or
bleeding out on the sidewalk because I just wasnt as good as the criminal

yup... swords are so noble that only honorable people carry them :rolleyes:




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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14314111 - 04/18/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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wasnt ignoring you. just its obvious the death rate would be less, its a cowards tool and it requires a lot less of someone to kill.

you dont even need to look someone in the eye to use it. its a honor less weapon. just another failed invention in my eyes.







You don't need to look someone in the eyes to kill them with a knife. Should we out-law those?

When used responsibly a gun can save lives by stopping a single home intruder who had the intention of killing your whole family.
Guns helped people hunt more efficiently leading to better survival and health overall.
Guns are not inherently with or without honor, like with anything it's who uses it and how.
This doesn't seem like a failed invention to me.


Do you think that anything with the potential to be used destructively, cars for example, should be prohibited?


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: donteatasians]
    #14314133 - 04/18/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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You don't need to look someone in the eyes to kill them with a knife. Should we out-law those?





the UK outlawed guns, violent crime increased, stabbings were more frequent
and guns are still on the streets but not in the hands of law abiding
citizens, the UK has outlawed knives, violent crimes still increased and
citizens have no means of self preservation yet knives and guns are still on
the streets in the hands of criminals

since when have we known criminals to obey the laws?


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14314144 - 04/18/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

pris this country is mostly made up of people who suffer over extended work schedules, overpriced cost of living, health care, transportation. that is survival by slavery not freedom. 

imo no one chose this reality. i sure didnt. it was pushed tyrannically upon us, while hypocritically our system says it is against that belief. therefore a illusion.

just because you dont live it. does not mean it doesnt exist.


and i find it hard to believe your going to take on two crazed suicidal kids with tek 9s who are blasting more then 900 rounds off at anyone. just not realistic.

whatever though the point is if guns were not so accepted theyd never of even been able to get them.


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Re: someone tried to intimidate me during class on thursday [Re: morrowasted]
    #14314149 - 04/18/11 09:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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was a fucking mistake taking this poli sci class for a BS elective. i used to give politicians way more credit than they deserve. it really does boil down to the fact that they are ignorant lowlives. theres like 4 token conservative ex-military douchebags that are always endlessly spewing garbage about their ignorant opinions. one guy during class today actually said "I guess I just am how I am because I spent the last 20 years killing people for money"

yeah no shit you fucking scumbag

i didnt say that though. what i said was "yeah, that might have something to do with it". he comes back with, "thats a ballsy thing to say to someone who is packing a pistol under their shirt."

i turned around, looked him square in the face, put my arms up in surrended, and said "go ahead and shoot me."

anyway. he shut up and did not say anything for the rest of class. end of story





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