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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14294852 - 04/15/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

From what I have read in other threads and from what Cervantes said ATL 7 is supposed to be the most visual of the sclerotia forming species.  I have heard generally less about the mexicana, but what I have heard has mostly been that it is less potent than ATL 7.

Potency is going to depend on a lot of factors though, especially if doing MS.


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: M11]
    #14296304 - 04/15/11 03:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That's very interesting M11.

Gleaned from relevant threads, It appears that there may be significant differences in potency within the same sclerotia producing strains depending on age, usually in the range of 1-3 month old sclerotia compared to 3-6+ month old sclerotia.

So even for a "more visual" strain like Galindoi (ATL#7), it seems that older sclerotia tend to be more visual. While according to some reports younger sclerotia may not be as visual. Don't know if this is the case for Mexicana A, B, Jalisco, Tampanesis.

Interestingly, workman, according to others, notes that larger sclerotia may be more potent than smaller sclerotia :

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Workman said:
You should post some pictures of your sclerotia.  From the reports I have heard, the tamp and mexicana are about the same with mexicana being slightly higher in potency on average.  The larger sclerotia are supposedly higher in potency than smaller ones on a weight by weight comparison.  Fresh material probably gives better results.





In another thread, workman notes both larger and older sclerotia are more potent, though it's not clear whether larger sclerotia also, therefore, means older sclerotia (notice the first quote only said larger sclerotia, while the following lists both size and age together):

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Workman said:
Reportedly, larger and older sclerotia are more potent.  Also, cooler slower grown sclerotia are reportedly superior. 




And a little more about Mexicana A from a very few threads, there are a handful of people who remark that the Mexicana A is a very clear ride allowing for speech even on stronger levels. It appears it may be the case for ATL #7 too, that is if blackout meant ATL #7 [Galindoi] rather than Atlantis.

Quote from Cervantes:

"I figure this is also, a good time to talk about the effects of eating sclerotia. They work. They are very similar to cubensis but also completely different. They are obviously from the same family of shrooms. The Philosopher stones are not the most visual thing I have tried but they are potent and they last a long time (I suspect this is because it takes a while longer to digest sclerotia than it takes to digest cubensis matter). The visuals are similar to cubes but you see things painted with broader strokes. I have seen big wipes of color and skin begins to look like clay. When I see patterns, they are less detailed than cubensis patterns tend to be. Outdoors, sclerotia visuals come to life. Nature is great with any shroom but sclerotia seems very nice. That, and it is easier to hold a coherant conversation with sclerotia. Perhaps this is why they are nicknamed philosopher's stones."

Psilocybe atlantis sclerotia potency. My verdict.:

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I have had several pms asking about potency of the atlantis sclerotia. Last night I finally got around to dosing on it. 15g wet sclerotia. It was frozen for a few months and went down easy, tasted acidic like sour sweets and was slightly nicer than the mexicana I have tried.

I found it more potent than any of the mexicana I have tried (which I think is over-rated potency wise). People say sclerotia is 30% dry matter and 2/3 the potency of cubensis so 15g should dry to 4.5g and be equivalent to 3g of cubensis. I would estimate the atlantis to be about 2g cubensis. I have taken mexicana A and commercial mexicana sclerotia and I would estimate 15g of mexicana to be about 1-1.5g of cubensis. I have never taken tampanensis which is supposed to be strong but takes ages to grow. I find atlantis grows faster than mexicana and many others seem to find this too.

It was a very pleasant and stable high. Strong body effects and very stable closed eye visuals. No peaks and lows like I get with cubensis, a very smooth enjoyable ride. In the last few hours I was watching a comedy and laughing a lot, but not odd bursts of freakish/illogical laughter. Something I would definitely like to repeat. I would recommend it above the other sclerotia strains. I always recommend sclerotia for beginner growers since it is so easy to grow, but it is also suited to first time dosers too since it is nice and smooth.





Maybe useful repeat for those who haven't seen:

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Mexicana sclerotia is my long time favorite as well.  It's like a Cadillac compared to cubes being a geo.  Everybody seems to think they take six months or longer, but you can have a nice batch of stones in six weeks, which is about what it takes to get a good cube flush.  The trip is cleaner, and they don't make you want to puke while you eat them.
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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14315443 - 04/19/11 02:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14316331 - 04/19/11 09:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I love ATL 7 tea.  I am going to trip my face off this weekend. I am thinking 30-35 g fresh. 

:uptosomething:

I usually find 20-25 g to be my usual dose. I find 20-25 g to equal about 3.5 g of dried cubensis.


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: M11]
    #14321138 - 04/20/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14326041 - 04/21/11 01:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14326813 - 04/21/11 08:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like we will have to cultivate both and find out ourselves.


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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: M11]
    #14339379 - 04/23/11 04:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

M11, got any projects going on? If so, could you gather some info give some input then? :tongue2:

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Re: ATL #7 vs. Mexicana sclerotia [Re: Atlantis]
    #14339784 - 04/23/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have tons of ATL 7 jar.  Most are about 6 months old now.  Yields have been great -150 g a jar or so. 

I think I am going to try Mexicana A next time.


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