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I don't expect this to be any good, but I'm curious since they didn't go over the top with how the characters look since you're not going to be able to do it like the anime.
Anybody SEE it?
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goku is white? what the fuck is that? i wouldn't be able to watch this movie without dying inside.
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Been meaning to see this for a while for obvious lulz but never got around to it. Thanks for the reminder Downloading.
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It looks shite. It would ruin the cartoon for me if I watched it.
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You should not make coffee without caffeine. You should not make beer without alcohol. You should not make a live-action version of Dragonball Z. It can do nothing but SUCK.
With the Ninja Turtles it worked because they dont do particularly awesome things. The live action ninja turtles were awesome, even though on another level as the cartoon.
But you can't transfer the martial arts and special effects of Dragonball Z to live action, or even something approaching it like Avatar style CGI.
It needs to be abstract because what being done, CONSTANTLY, is abstract. Its impossible to do that on a realistic level and not make it look enormously understated, overstated and goofy at the same time.
And sorry to pull the race card but yes, a WHITE GOKU?! And then looking like THAT? I had to freeze frame and take a good look asking myself "is THIS supposed to be Goku?!" Apparently yes 
You can watch it and with some intravenous ketamine its going to be awesome, but its going to be nothing, NOTHING like the real DBZ. Not because DBZ was that great (it really wasnt) but because DBZ is abstract and you can NEVER convey that to realism. It doesnt translate.
You either have to wait 30 years and EXPERIENCE Dragonball Z firstperson (or jab some ketamine today and get lucky) or you got to stick with the abstract cartoon with the goofy voice talents.
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Re: Dragonball Evolution [Re: Asante]
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I don't know why people have a problem with Goku being white in this. He's not even human.
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SprewellSleeve said: I don't know why people have a problem with Goku being white in this. He's not even human.
Good point.
It still looks shite. Bulma doesnt even had turqoise hair And you cant have people turning super saiyan and fuckin shit up in live action. And if the bad guy is Piccolo, shouldnt Goku be a kid?
I've recently been watching Dragonball, which is why I remember all this stuff.
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Well, you don't expect him to look white for one, but on a more prominent level.. All race aside, who in their right mind casts someone who looks like THAT for the role of Goku? Why not oh say Weird Al Yankovic?
He looks COMPLETELY UNLIKE GOKU for one.
I stick with my original recommendation, forget all about what this is supposed to resemble, discreetly jab yourself with some intravenous ketamine and this movie might still become somewhat awesome yet. If it even then fails to deliver press the plunger a bit harder and go on your own quest to find the Dragonballs.
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Re: Dragonball Evolution [Re: Asante]
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I thought Goku was white in the cartoon..A lot of anime shows use white people.
My problem is he's just some average looking high school kid.
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I cant even BELIEVE what they did to Piccolo 
How can you possibly get it THAT wrong with a nonhuman face?
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You know how it is...Movies never go by the original story line.
Also, the new mortal kombat movie supposedly coming out destroyed the plot too.
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#14296421 - 04/15/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Imagine a live action Ren & Stimpy.
Some things just dont WORK with realism because their nature is abstract. You shouldnt even try.
A great way to ACTUALLY get this planet blown up in 2012 is to insult the entire gang of Saiyans with this piece of shit movie
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Good point.
It still looks shite. Bulma doesnt even had turqoise hair And you cant have people turning super saiyan and fuckin shit up in live action. And if the bad guy is Piccolo, shouldnt Goku be a kid?
I've recently been watching Dragonball, which is why I remember all this stuff.
The Bulma thing is stupid. If you look at my Scene Girls thread it's pretty obvious it's not hard to do.
Yeah, I also noticed Goku fighting Piccolo not as a kid, although I don't remember if they fought early on in Dragonball Z.
If I were to make a live-action Dragonball Z movie, I'd do one not TRYING to have the looks of the anime. Just looks and effect enough to have enough similarity. It'd be like an urban legend based off of something real. This would be the "real" version of DBZ.
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SprewellSleeve said: I don't know why people have a problem with Goku being white in this. He's not even human.
Good point.
It still looks shite. Bulma doesnt even had turqoise hair And you cant have people turning super saiyan and fuckin shit up in live action. And if the bad guy is Piccolo, shouldnt Goku be a kid?
I've recently been watching Dragonball, which is why I remember all this stuff.
The Bulma thing is stupid. If you look at my Scene Girls thread it's pretty obvious it's not hard to do.
(it was a joke )
Actually, Goku might have fought Piccolo at the very start of DBZ. It depends on whether the film version is King Piccolo or Piccolo.
But the thing about Db being abstract is right.
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Re: Dragonball Evolution [Re: Asante]
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Some things just dont WORK with realism because their nature is abstract. You shouldnt even try.
A great way to ACTUALLY get this planet blown up in 2012 is to insult the entire gang of Saiyans with this piece of shit movie 
Yeah, you can't do Ren & Stimpy. A claymation would be good though. Claymation needs to be used more. Those Flintstones claymation cereal commercials are great. I'd love a Flintstones series with that.
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Some things just dont WORK with realism because their nature is abstract. You shouldnt even try.
A great way to ACTUALLY get this planet blown up in 2012 is to insult the entire gang of Saiyans with this piece of shit movie 

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Live action DBZ would only be good if Zach Snyder directed it (300, Watchmen, etc.)
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This makes me cry inside
What a fucking bastardization of my childhood
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#14296681 - 04/15/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Terrible movie.
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frylock91 said: You know how it is...Movies never go by the original story line.
Also, the new mortal kombat movie supposedly coming out destroyed the plot too.
I've read that that was just a pitch and not something that is actually in the process of being made. Source?
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Oh I've heard it was supposed to actually be made. But to be honest idk much about it, either way if it were done I think it would have a lot of flaws.
I just found this though, haven't looked through it a ton but you might find some info there.
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Would be cool to see a new MK movie. I just figured you were talking about this.
Unless that link and video are related.
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Ha yeah that's the one the link was for. I like all the ninjas and monsters and sorcerers and shit. This one is just too realistic to feel like the real Mortal Kombat to me.
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Exactly, so why does he have to be White? It's painfully apparent that that is just a marketing ploy, a product of our pathetic Westernized mainstream media.
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Charlie Sheen shouldve been cast as Goku. I mean, they're both winning all the time and it wouldnt fuck the movie up any further. Might return a bit of an abstract elememt to it 
Samuel L Jackson as Piccolo, all jokes aside now THAT would work!
Thisd Goku though, you want to give him a skateboard, not a dragonball.
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i'd be far more interested in the movie if Charlie Sheen were a part of the cast. then it'd just be obvious that the movie isn't to be taken seriously.
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charlie sheen is too energetic to be goku.
goku liked to stare his enemies down for 3 episodes before getting down to business and actually fighting them
....which is my only problem with the entire dragonball series.
"oh you dont like what i do? well i dont like what you do" "oh really" "yea... really" "well what are you gonna do about it?" "im really angry right now! ill tell ya what" "well come get some" "maybe in a little im charging up right now" "well thats cool because so am i"
....and that goes on for 3 episodes before they actually fight. meanwhile theyre both floating in the air staring at each other with super mad faces looking like theyre about to lunge; so as a kid i was like glued to the tv and every time the episode was a total let down because it would be that crap straight to the credits.
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YES! i would definitely watch the movie if that was the case
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Personality wise I think Charlie Sheen would fit well as Master Roshi. They're both dogs.
Bruce Willis would be Tien.
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#14297220 - 04/15/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ooh guys this you gotta see, this takes you way back:
Also illustrates the utter FAIL of trying to make a live action/CGI DBZ. Its just not made for realism.
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#14297230 - 04/15/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Brolly is a fuckin bad ass.
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I was in my mid 20s when I saw DBZ. Goku had that rolemodel like quality about him, for kids, the target audience, no doubt he wouldve been an ideal "older brother" like character, they themselves identifying with Gohan. In the snippets of the live action Goku, I see none of that dignified rolemodel side, I think thats my biggest objection to the Goku presented here. This is just some cool kid with mad skillz.
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Except Gohan was his son.
But I agree, Goku was virtuous and goofy. Hip white Goku has none of that
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in DBZ. the freeza saga. I think he fought freeza for like 3 episodes....
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He fought Buu like 10 episodes.
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Wiccan_Seeker said: I was in my mid 20s when I saw DBZ. Goku had that rolemodel like quality about him, for kids, the target audience, no doubt he wouldve been an ideal "older brother" like character, they themselves identifying with Gohan. In the snippets of the live action Goku, I see none of that dignified rolemodel side, I think thats my biggest objection to the Goku presented here. This is just some cool kid with mad skillz.
Agreed.
He doesn't have the look for him, he looks like an underdog. He'd fit more as Gohan.
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goku liked to stare his enemies down for 3 episodes before getting down to business and actually fighting them
....which is my only problem with the entire dragonball series.
"oh you dont like what i do? well i dont like what you do" "oh really" "yea... really" "well what are you gonna do about it?" "im really angry right now! ill tell ya what" "well come get some" "maybe in a little im charging up right now" "well thats cool because so am i"
....and that goes on for 3 episodes before they actually fight. meanwhile theyre both floating in the air staring at each other with super mad faces looking like theyre about to lunge; so as a kid i was like glued to the tv and every time the episode was a total let down because it would be that crap straight to the credits.
ha Yeah, that was ridiculous with the talking, but I was still hooked.
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It wasnt that great of a movie. Vegeta kicks ass
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Probably more.
Cell was a shitload as well.
I watched the Cell games on my first mushroom trip. It was horrible. The episode where Cell is just beating the fuck out of Gohan, and Goku is like "lol he's fine" while he's getting murdered
The music was so urgent and strange and the whole vibe was just off and violent
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In my opinion the reason he looks white is because he looks white. The majority of characters look white. Some characters are overtly asian, like Tao Pai Pai and Goku's adoptive grandfather, but most DBZ characters look white.

the actor used to portray Goku is remarkably perfect. The shape of his skull is almost identical to Goku's; Justin Chatwin also has very thin lips, which perfectly match Goku who's lips, like many illutrations, are depicted as a black line.
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In my opinion the reason he looks white is because he looks white. The majority of characters look white. Some characters are overtly asian, like Tao Pai Pai and Goku's adoptive grandfather, but most DBZ characters look white.

the actor used to portray Goku is remarkably perfect. The shape of his skull is almost identical to Goku's; Justin Chatwin also has very thin lips, which perfectly match Goku who's lips, like many illutrations, are depicted as a black line.
All of their lips are a black line, man. The actor doesn't even seem like Goku, Goku's supposed to be all naive and shit, this guy seems like a badass, not at all how Goku should be.
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Vegeta kicks ass
Pardon me saying there good chap, but Vegeta ALWAYS kicked ass. Very cool nemesis/ally.
Guys I have a fun idea.. From the original series (not this movie plz) you get to pick 3 characters, and the four of you will embark on a night of the recreational drug of your choice, sharing an awesome experience and doing a LOT of talking together.
Which three characters, why, and whats your D.O.C for that event?
I'm going to pick Goku, Piccolo and Krillin and we're gonna go on a bigass Mescaline trip.
Vegeta is great but he has way too much issues, he might get upset and blow up like half my home town in a fit of temper. Goku and I would relate real well, we both have a heart condition etc, its gonna be awesome. Piccolo I feel I could learn stuff from and when hes not all WAAAAAAAARRRRGHHHH he's the all around coolest guy of the part of the Sagas I saw. He's gonna get stuck up at some point but we're gonna help him with that. Krillin.. it just HAS to be a totally fun time for all with Krillin on Mescaline! He will definitely put the PRO FUN in profundity. Its also better for the group dynamic, I'm just a mortal with no particular powers, like Krillin, and we can balance out the SuperSaiyan and the Namek a bit.
I foresee Goku (big Goku mind you) can completely handle himself on Mescaline and be the Alpha and inspiration of that group, Piccolo is gonna have some emotional issues but that'll be cool. Krillin is going to laugh his ass off for 16 hours straight and be inspiring in the fun aspects, but also be a source of occasional irtritation to Piccolo who, lets face it, doers not like to be compared with a San Pedro and stuff. I'm going to mediate, learn, offer the human perspective and have an all around awesome time.
Mescaline cause its the most awesome psychedelic and it has the most sweet coming down of all, going on for centuries with the time slowing and all, totally great to touch base together.
C'mon guys, dont be shy, forget we're all grown up and stuff and lets do this thought experiment together.
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I'd trip with the fat Majin Buu just because it would be a laugh, Tien (his third eye is already open ) and one of those gnarly Elder Kai dudes, seeing as though they're gods from another dimension, AFAIR.
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Ah but your D.O.C man, what will yall be tripping on?
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