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InvisibleGonzoCool


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Evolution/Carbon dating
    #14293721 - 04/15/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

One of the curious things about dating methods that purport to discover millions of years of aging is that they depend on a principle that seems to run counter to another dearly held modern idea: evolution. They depend on uniformitarianism. They must assume that forces of nature and physical laws have continued unchanged for millions and billions of years.

The processes of decay the dating methods measure must be entirely uniform and subject to the same forces we find in our world now or the methods would produce entirely unpredictable and unreliable results.

So these dating methods must assume the universe we observe now is operating the same as it was billions of years ago...

Yet there is no currently observable law or process that allows, much less explains, the process of evolution. No law of nature we observe now remotely resembles what would be necessary to take elements in chaos and organize them into life, nor do we observe any law or force of nature that explains simplicity turning itself into complexity (let alone the complexity of life).

In fact, the laws and forces that we do observe in our universe demand the opposite result. Energy always dissipates. Nothing tends toward greater complexity but always deteriorates. If evolution is true, whatever forces and laws of nature that account for its occurrence are not now present.

There has, therefore, not been a uniformity over the alleged billions of years. Scientists cannot have it both ways. We cannot assume uniformity in the process of aging and deterioration for billions of years and insist that processes of evolution were at the same time active.


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Re: Evolution/Carbon dating [Re: GonzoCool]
    #14293772 - 04/15/11 01:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So you want us to discuss your complete ignorance in several fields at once?

B-O-R-I-N-G. :yawn:


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InvisibleDiploidM
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Re: Evolution/Carbon dating [Re: GonzoCool] * 1
    #14293787 - 04/15/11 01:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nothing tends toward greater complexity but always deteriorates

Ah, this must be why highly organized and complex hurricanes form from random air movements.

Where did you study thermodynamics? Sunday school?


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Re: Evolution/Carbon dating [Re: Diploid]
    #14294116 - 04/15/11 04:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

lol human arrogance; thinking that somehow we're perfectly designed specimens of functionality & order. We are chaos, if you hadn't noticed. Our bodies are extremely complex, yes, but they break down proportionately quickly. And while millions of years may be a long time to us, it's a drop in the bucket to the cosmos.

Evolution is not only explainable by our modern scientific knowledge of nature, it's obvious. Unless you're ready to deny tons and tons of fossil evidence and modern empirical observation, you must accept that evolution is true.

Evolution works by natural selection; read up on it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection


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