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Which cactus has the highest mescaline content?
    #14292107 - 04/14/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hi,

I've read qute a few threads here and elsewhere but I still don't have a defininte answer on what Trichocereus species has the highest mescaline content. I am considering the cactus simply for the mescaline and no other alkaloids.  I've been leaning towards powdered Bridgesii. I've read a number of threads proclaimng Bridgesi having the highest content ->http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanicals/57471-bridgesii-potency-question.html

This claims Bridgesii to be the worst -> http://gradworks.umi.com/14/78/1478388.html

And I gather this means Pachanoi and Bridgesii are on similar grounds -> http://www.entheogen.com/content/view/58/2/

So for mescaline and nothing else, what are your thoughts on powdered Bridgesii? Should I instead go for Pachanoi?

Thanks


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Re: Which cactus has the highest mescaline content? [Re: footclan]
    #14292133 - 04/14/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Bridgesii isn't the worst by any means. Yes it tends to have less mescaline than others, but it makes up for it by having other tasty alkaloids in the mix, making for a overall potent experience.

As I understand it, Peruvian torch specimens have had the highest and purest mescaline content, but not consistently, and san pedro has the most consistent mescaline content.


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Re: Which cactus has the highest mescaline content? [Re: sorahtak]
    #14292147 - 04/14/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

In my experience, Brigesii gives you a slower spacier type of feel, whereas torch, being the closest to pure mescaline, is lucid and energetic. Pedro is somewhere in between, but closer to torch.


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Re: Which cactus has the highest mescaline content? [Re: sorahtak]
    #14292254 - 04/14/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That's my concern with Pachnoi. I've seen wild inconsistences between analyzed samples. I've heard to expect 1 - 1.5% mescaline content from Bridgesii. Is this reasonable? As I've said I'd be ordering it in powdered form.


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Re: Which cactus has the highest mescaline content? [Re: footclan]
    #14293229 - 04/14/11 10:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

For me, Bridgesii is like taking a large dose of San Pedro.  It is the most consistent cactus, 12 skinny inches of a bridgesii has consistently given me powerful trips.  No other cactus comes close.

I've eaten a lot of San Pedro but each purchase is always a damn crapshoot.  Some are strong, most are weak.  Yeah, yeah, yeah, know your source, well good sources sometimes turn shitty.  I've also bought a lot of bridgesii and ALL are strong.  And this idea that there is less mescaline and more MAOIs and other alkaloids - listen - bridgesii feels like a strong mescaline trip.  To me it is indistinguishable from a large dose of San Pedro or a nice dose of Peruvian Torch.  I'm sure in a blind test, no one could tell the difference.  Hell at high doses of cactus, I can't distinguish between mescaline and LSD. 

You want to know for real?  Buy a foot of bridgesii and buy a foot of San Pedro and give each one a try. 

You'll understand and then pity fools who bother with anything but bridgesii.


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Re: Which cactus has the highest mescaline content? [Re: joemolloy]
    #14294365 - 04/15/11 06:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I agree that brigesii is the most consistent bang for your buck.

Idk about high doses, but at medium doses it definitely seems like a different experience than pedro or torch. More sedating and cloudy. I've seen a lot of other people say the same.


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Re: Which cactus has the highest mescaline content? [Re: sorahtak]
    #14294422 - 04/15/11 07:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

sorahtak said:
Yeah, I agree that brigesii is the most consistent bang for your buck.

Idk about high doses, but at medium doses it definitely seems like a different experience than pedro or torch. More sedating and cloudy. I've seen a lot of other people say the same.




Yeah, I've read that too but there is a part of me that thinks many people have never had high enough doses of mescaline to know the difference.  At higher doses, the mescaline experience takes on new and different characteristics and I think that the changes in perception are a function of more mescaline rather than any other explanation. Who knows?  Few, if any, of the users here ever chemically analyze their cuttings but persistently quote Trout's book for reference, but we can never know how reflective his results are of the cactus you just ate.


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Re: Which cactus has the highest mescaline content? [Re: joemolloy]
    #14297186 - 04/15/11 06:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the info. I'm going with Bridgesii.


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