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OfflineGrungeman17
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Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice.
    #14290874 - 04/14/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ok i'm hookin up a very close friend tonight and we are goin catfishing, the place we fish is well segregated from people and is about a five minute trail hike which can seem a lil spooky at night but not really, my buddy is wanting to lemon tek 4g of some multispore produced b+ i can vouch for average potency of these fine specimens.  i am afraid he will get really parinoid being out there under his conditions because sober he is wide eyed as a motherfucker sometimes thinkin he's hearing something walk down the trail but its always a coon or some animal. and he carrys a ninja style machette in his tackle box just in case something does go down. He is not an experienced tripper but has indulged before and has level head for sure, do you think this is safe, what procautions should i take he seems to have a tolerance to mush because he ate 4g awile back of this same batch he level 2ed while i hit the top of 3 of the same amount this is why i'm having him lemon tek to see if he actually trips good this time.  is this a good idea or not?


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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: Grungeman17]
    #14290966 - 04/14/11 03:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Really the only part I see a problem with is trying to fish wile tripping. Fishing hooks, and barbs on the catfish, in the dark can be slightly dangerous wile sober. I guess if your both experienced fisherpeople it should be fine. Maybe you should take care of the sharp things for him though, lol.


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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: vegantoker]
    #14291043 - 04/14/11 04:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yea were all rigged up, if he lost his i rig i would bait it back up for him no problem, I Just think he will "cross over his first time tonight and the setting is five minutes of dark woods then a beautiful river. ill prolly bring him some bottle water and some snacks its warm here but ill still have him bring his coat.


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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: Grungeman17]
    #14291263 - 04/14/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

To me having some one on a big dose like that, next to a river when they could end up losing their shit and needing to be restrained, seems like a very bad idea.

Call me a tree hugger, but after my trips. Fishing's just barbaric(which is funny to my friends since I used to go to fishing competitions).

Hope you consider a lower dose or something more ideal for a big dose. If not hope you both have a good time with no problems.


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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14291308 - 04/14/11 04:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If you can get a hold of barbiturates it wouldn't be such a bad idea to bring some along in case the trip goes wrong. The night can sometimes be scary.


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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14291334 - 04/14/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yea lemon tek is shorter duration but some say potentcy doubles.
If so that's a level 4 trip for him.

I dunno if it's just me or if the "ninja-machete" is a bit much:cool:?

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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: Grungeman17] * 1
    #14291353 - 04/14/11 04:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How many times has he tripped before?
How many times have you tripped with him?
How recently?

Also, dude, "coon" is not the preferred nomenclature.
"African American" please.

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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14291415 - 04/14/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

oh shit i didn't even read the machete part. Im leaving this thread, as im tempted to rant a bit about how horribly this trip is being planned out. And lemon tek four grams can make you really lose your shit if they're potent.


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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14291513 - 04/14/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

ifoundwaldo said:
How many times has he tripped before?
How many times have you tripped with him?
How recently?

Also, dude, "coon" is not the preferred nomenclature.
"African American" please.

:Trollface:




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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: Synapses-R-Us]
    #14291873 - 04/14/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Make sure that you're the one holding onto the machete. If he gets sketched out real easy while sober, you could have some real problems if someone walks up on you.

And make sure he doesn't get into the water either unless you know for a fact that it is shallow enough to wade in.

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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: Yacub]
    #14293289 - 04/14/11 11:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

allright, the trip went good for him but he still didn't break through, he said he felt like he ate bunch of tabs and small mind fuck, i know these arn't week cause i did same amount 2 weeks ago. The machete is a colman weed chopper with shoe laces twined on the handle katana style.  its our only line of protection except ourselves, times are getting tough and more homeless people are chillin out down at the riv, but the spot we go is more secluded never really seen a soul down there.  we've been fishing and hiking for along time thats why we chanced it. surprisingly, my find asked me to join him in a prayer before his come up, in request to keep us safe and to be with us at all times. i could tell he wanted to deal with some things and was confidant god would be there for during his moments of intense realization. Over all i think he was just glad to be chillin out and throwin out. we didn't catch anything but i'm sure he caught a hell of a buzz and hopfully a damn good time.


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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: Grungeman17]
    #14293337 - 04/14/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's funny that in the Internet world there's such a concrete system in place.
"eat this much to get level X"
"level x is these a d that effects"
"your trip will guaranteed turn out the following way if you do thus general thing"


Among my friends in the real world, where there's tons if drugs consumed daily, none of that silly shut is considered. We just eat what we feel like eating. Obviously be safe with drugs with low ld50s but with psychedelics, 4g of shrooms from a multispore batch is like as common as French toast. Basically, it's nothing anyone should be warning you about.

Sounds like you'd be more comfortable with a case of some brewskies though instead. With all the coons and catfish around and what have ya.

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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: Grungeman17]
    #14293503 - 04/15/11 12:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

catfishing rocks ! its the easiest way to fish fucked up ! you and your friend sound like me and i could picture everything you said about the spooky surroundings and the machete and all that ...

better luck next time with the fishing and keep on keeping on ! :hippie:

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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: LightShedder]
    #14294327 - 04/15/11 06:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

LightShedder said:
It's funny that in the Internet world there's such a concrete system in place.
"eat this much to get level X"
"level x is these a d that effects"
"your trip will guaranteed turn out the following way if you do thus general thing"


Among my friends in the real world, where there's tons if drugs consumed daily, none of that silly shut is considered. We just eat what we feel like eating. Obviously be safe with drugs with low ld50s but with psychedelics, 4g of shrooms from a multispore batch is like as common as French toast. Basically, it's nothing anyone should be warning you about.




Those recommendations were made out of concern. SURE I don't know from being on an online message board, how potent his mushies were.
So I go off the general weight to effect ratio, since I don't rate trip effects by levels. And if your 4g lemon tek, multispore or not doesn't make it pretty hard to function then maybe its some weak shit.

Point is people do dumb shit on drugs. If I can prevent that then ill put my damn 2 cents in, and warn warn warn all I want. Its what someone with at least common sense would do.


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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14294380 - 04/15/11 07:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'd like to echo the concern someone mentioned about drowning. A proper setting should be safe both mentally and physically.


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Re: Trip sitting tonight/night fishing need advice. [Re: FleshCap]
    #14294776 - 04/15/11 09:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

well to clear up your drowning concerns, we don't fish off the bank we are actually down in the river because of how low it is, we fish off of rocks and if someone was to go in the water the deapest part is just about up to our necks, not really deep at all and the current was next to still, do to lack of wind and rain. keep in mind during these ventures one of us is sober and is also semi-guiding the trip for the other person, you guys act like you seen some major fuckin tripping disaster and wouldn't do it in anything short of a climate controlled box. I haven't blacked ou before on shrooms but i have reached level 4 for sure and I have never lost my cognitive ability to project whats safe and whats potentially dangerous. some of you like said above ar extremely brain washed on "General" guidelines involved with this drug completly ignoring experience, a sober enitity, survival skills/knowledge of the area, and pre developed plan, all varibles obtained and judged by me to insure the "safest possible" experience for my buddy. The reason why i even asked, is because of the whole night time in the woods thing, i didn't know if night time in the woods was a bad trip for some... but I like to get a little scared in my trips actually the best part for me is after reaching a place of complete safty from a place that spooked me the fuck out.


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